Sessions: I'm Shutting Down Colorado

tangerinegreen555

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PCXV said:
I don't know, how many? That list was paraphrasing the article.
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I don't actually know.

The point is there were far more under Obama which kinda skews the numbers.

I don't advocate fucking with dispensaries, but you'd have to study the pops on a case by case basis to see what happened. Rules violations or simple harassment.

Obama could have done more to help.

Trump/Sessions will do nothing to help and could put the squeeze on in a heart beat.

Nixon put weed on schedule 1 because he didn't like who was smoking it.

Any dumbasses think Trump likes who's smoking it?
 
PCXV

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CannaBruh said:
There's a long list of fallacies in most any college level composition reading, read the article again while scanning that list and see if anything sticks out.

Not one text of science is written with that kind of flamboyance and attitude.. let alone the basis to stem some thread titled "shutting down Colorado"
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If we are talking about the same "weednews" article, it's not a text of science, never claimed to be. It's a political opinion piece. Some political science and historical arguments in there, but as I outlined earlier, it's not too far a stretch. The real fault is that the author claims Sessions is coming for Colorado but only provides evidence that Sessions might do something about Marijauana and how he could. No advancement or action by Sessions is cited, and nothing specific to Colorado.
 
PCXV

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CannaBruh said:
Ad hominem, cited in my first reply regarding the article, the list goes on and on....had you actually given consideration to what I had typed you would have known and not need to ask.. (two of you asked, did you even read what I wrote?)

You want to make this argument somehow about what I think is fallacy or not.... I'm out, my only point was stating that the article in noway supports the flamboyancy of this thread title. That is all.


.....that is unless someone spots Sessions at the award ceremony today
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The name calling is contextual and peripheral to the core arguments (trumplestiltskin points to Trump's history of grand promises and back-pedalling). It reveals bias but doesn't take away from the facts and argument IMO. If anything, when I see bias it helps me to gauge my skepticism and prompts me to fact-check.
 
Fender Super

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CannaBruh said:
Ad hominem, cited in my first reply regarding the article, the list goes on and on....had you actually given consideration to what I had typed you would have known and not need to ask.. (two of you asked, did you even read what I wrote?)

You want to make this argument somehow about what I think is fallacy or not.... I'm out, my only point was stating that the article in noway supports the flamboyancy of this thread title. That is all.


.....that is unless someone spots Sessions at the award ceremony today
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You support Hitler. You should die.
 
CannaBruh

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PCXV said:
The name calling is contextual and peripheral to the core arguments (trumplestiltskin points to Trump's history of grand promises and back-pedalling). It reveals bias but doesn't take away from the facts and argument IMO. If anything, when I see bias it helps me to gauge my skepticism and prompts me to fact-check.
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And that is, your opinion, just as I expressed my thoughts as being just that, my opinion.

Convention is to avoid use of these tactics when conveying a message of any credibility, less you understand that those receiving your message will dwindle to a niche few, as we see is the case today in this thread.
 
CannaBruh

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PCXV said:
If we are talking about the same "weednews" article, it's not a text of science, never claimed to be. It's a political opinion piece. Some political science and historical arguments in there, but as I outlined earlier, it's not too far a stretch. The real fault is that the author claims Sessions is coming for Colorado but only provides evidence that Sessions might do something about Marijauana and how he could. No advancement or action by Sessions is cited, and nothing specific to Colorado.
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Agreed
 
PCXV

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CannaBruh said:
And that is, your opinion, just as I expressed my thoughts as being just that, my opinion.

Convention is to avoid use of these tactics when conveying a message of any credibility, less you understand that those receiving your message will dwindle to a niche few, as we see is the case today in this thread.
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I agree, but I think if people want the whole truth they will inevitably have to suffer some bias and spin when gathering info second or third hand.
 
CannaBruh

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PCXV said:
I agree, but I think if people want the whole truth they will inevitably have to suffer some bias and spin when gathering info second or third hand.
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Fair enough, but stepping back to take in the whole scope of the thread title relating to the article, it's a bit over the top is all I was intending to point out :bigjoint:
 
ttystikk

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i don't have any problem with people who know how to make a lot of money. if thats your goal in life, as long as you attain it ethically, more power to you.
i have a huge problem with a government that enables people to make that money unethically, and keep more of it than they should be able to. i've been in favor of a real flat tax for years, and no fucking tax returns at all, to anyone, ever. the tax rate for EVERYONE should be the same, say 10% just to keep it simple, no matter whether you make 10 K a year or 100 million, you pay 10%. no breaks, no cuts, no shit.
if you make under a certain amount, you don't pay taxes, theres your "tax return".
lawyers sole job is to make all business so complicated you need them to understand whats going on. none of this shit is complicated, they just make it that way. get rid of the lawyers, get rid of the bullshit....get rid of rich fuckers using their office to make their rich fuck friends richer fucks
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Flat taxes are very regressive, as in they hit those of lesser means and the poor much harder than the rich. Progressive tax rates are a good and reasonable answer.

Massive subsidies and tax breaks to corporations and the wealthy through trusts funds and the like, THERE'S the problem!
 
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ttystikk

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ANC said:
Quality free education is the only way to free the currently poor. There is no reason someone should expect to earn a good living filling shopping bags at the mall. That being said, a path of education is its own way of upliftment.
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Minimum wage laws protect poor people from this kind of thinking. If it's a job, it should pay a living wage, period.

Exactly what is so dishonorable about filling shopping bags at the mall that it's okay to deny people a living wage for doing it? The company is taking their time, why is it not a valuable commodity?
 
ttystikk

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schuylaar said:
I have thought about this over and over and over again..we require two things from our politicians:

  1. Accountability
  2. Outlaw Lobby/Reform

Politics will become unappealing to those except those who are straight shooters like Sanders.

And FTW..I'm not certain how I feel about the 'unity tour'..it's too soon. It's like someone died when the left lost the election. I don't trust Perez. I'm concerned he's going through the moves to get Sanders' donor list. It 'feels' all wrong, actually and it's been bothering me..if that means anything.

Even though Sanders is a big part of the death and wish it didn't happen, I feel differently about him and things now.

If these other two things above are done everything else will fall into place.
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Campaign finance reform addresses both of your concerns above. If there's no money to give politicians, lobbyists lose their war chests... Leaving politicians accountable to the People.

Is there a hole in this logic?
 
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ttystikk

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schuylaar said:
We're being priced out of everything..I wonder if we're destined to become a 'tiny' society?

Similar to Japan but not because of space shortage- wage shortage.

The age of McMansion rapidly defunct..those with are taking to roommates to share/shift the burden on the rise.

Getting used to 350-650sqft? How hard could it be? How intoxicating to be free of mortgages etc?

If they are not willing, the deep dive will be the dollar and their (MOP) existence ultimately.

The forced political chemotherapy that someone had mentioned..
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MOP? Mothers of Preschoolers?
 
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CannaBruh said:
I think you present a very credible and valid list of points, which the article failed to do..

..however nobody has spotted Sessions at the cup, Subcool will get his lifetime award, and someone will win some trophys. Nothing has signaled a sky is falling, as some are suggesting the article lays out as imminent.
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Do you need it numerically listed?
 
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schuylaar

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ttystikk said:
Campaign finance reform addresses both of your concerns above. If there's no money to give politicians, lobbyists lose their war chests... Leaving politicians accountable to the People.

Is there a hole in this logic?
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Yes. Politicians do way more than take bribes. They're pedos, racists, bigots and a whole bunch of other things.

They can be pure evil, too.
 
ttystikk

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Rooster802 said:
Yes, exactly! But the vast majority of older people are destitute because they don't understand money and financial wellness is not taught anywhere in public education. Its really easy to save a little, invest that little, and watch compound interest turn you into a millionaire over the course of 40 years. REALLY REALLY EASY. With Bernie in charge, maybe we could have fixed our education system so that it taught relevant information to our kids? Like financial health, the law of the land, what really works in a job interview, etc. Poverty in this country is just like obesity in this country, the wealthy blame the poor for being poor, and the fat for being fat. But its our education system, our failed corrupt governmental regulatory agencies that aren't doing their jobs, and a system perpetuated by those who are gaining off he current establishment. Fat people aren't lazy or glutinous (most of them anyway), but instead are ignorant of how food works in their bodies and are sick because of the toxins that are everywhere. Poor people are also ignorant about compound interest. And as Americans we live in this belief that "we are the good guys" and the government "is going to take care of me." Well, people, that is bullshit. Until everything in our society that has been steadily manipulated to make "the people" working drones that don't question authority has been broken down and rebuilt correctly, at least 65% of your public school graduates are going to struggle. Unnecessarily. And that is why I hate this government (for the last hundred years, with the exception of FDR and JFK).
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This is very much a blame the poor argument which fails to cover many of the very valid and germane reasons why Americans of middle and lower class upbringing can't get ahead.

Surely you have a better understanding of what's happened to the American economy and the middle class over the past 37 years (since 1980) than this?
 
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