Should Retards be Allowed to Fuck?

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UncleBuck

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420God said:
You have to take a test before you get your license to drive, having a child is a much greater responsibility.

And I could give a shit about the government, I pretty much live on a reservation.
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driving is a privilege. having a child is a basic human right.

and while i may agree that mentally handicapped people have no business raising a child, i am adamantly opposed to sterilizing any part of the population, especially based on the results of a human-administered intelligence test that is subject to bias with an arbitrary number deciding who gets to keep their basic human rights and who must undergo a mandatory medical procedure.

get it?
 
420God

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UncleBuck said:
driving is a privilege. having a child is a basic human right.

and while i may agree that mentally handicapped people have no business raising a child, i am adamantly opposed to sterilizing any part of the population, especially based on the results of a human-administered intelligence test that is subject to bias with an arbitrary number deciding who gets to keep their basic human rights and who must undergo a mandatory medical procedure.

get it?
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I get it and agree with you for the most part. No one should be required to do anything they don't want just because someone else says, especially a surgical procedure.
 
sheskunk

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why is it "humane" to put down sick or old animals, yet we house our less fortunate in homes and hospitals?

is it simply because "WE" feels it's right?

who assigns "basic human rights"?
 
Gadaffiduck

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UncleBuck said:
edit: what i'm saying is that freedom isn't free.

also, think about it...if we enforce a law like this, what if they start raising the standard? what if you or someone you love gets bugged out and does poorly on the test? what is there is bias on the part of the person who administers the test? are you willing to make yourself subject to this type of tyranny?

this is how it happened in nazi germany....slowly. not all at once. i can see the same thing creeping upon our shores, and it sickens me.
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Yeah, I got a little ahead of myself with the whole 'test' idea. It sounded good at the moment until you made me actually think about it. Only in a world where intelligence and the progression of the human race was a priority, would it be accepted.

I still stand beside my point about the mentally handicapped and whether they should have kids or not. Also depends if they can take care of themselves or not. Remember that movie 'I am Sam?'
I actually shed a tear for that man.
Mind you I don't agree with 420 views on the physically, and financially handicapped. That's just going too far.
 
Johnnyorganic

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Eugenics.

Seriously?

Why shouldn't 'retards' be allowed to enjoy the same freedoms the rest of us enjoy?

What's the answer, then?

Forced sterilization?

Elimination?

:wall:
 
upthearsenal

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Right on man. Weather has been weird this year so far, I'm in the deeeeeep south and today was in the mid 60s... wtf?

But I digress, as to the question of who determines our basic human rights... I'd like to think, laws and burocracy aside, that we naturally, through empathy, have an idea as to what "rights" we have as humans..... but maybe that's just some hippie shit...
 
420God

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I don't know why forced sterilization keeps getting brought up, there are other means of contraception now-a-days that don't require you to undergo a surgical procedure. Depo shot for example.

If they want to fuck than so be it but there should be some form of contraception preventing an unfit mother from having a child.
 
UncleBuck

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420God said:
I don't know why forced sterilization keeps getting brought up, there are other means of contraception now-a-days that don't require you to undergo a surgical procedure. Depo shot for example.

If they want to fuck than so be it but there should be some form of contraception preventing an unfit mother from having a child.
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even so, how do we identify everyone who needs to take forced birth control?

compulsory, government administered intelligence tests that are subject to bias, perhaps?

remember, the distinction between 'retarded' and 'not retarded' is an arbitrary number.
 
Johnnyorganic

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420God said:
I don't know why forced sterilization keeps getting brought up, there are other means of contraception now-a-days that don't require you to undergo a surgical procedure. Depo shot for example.

If they want to fuck than so be it but there should be some form of contraception preventing an unfit mother from having a child.
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Consider this:

The government decrees through the regulations of some official agency that everyone be forced to take a drug test.

And anyone pissing hot will have involuntary contraception FORCED on them regardless of their consent.

How does that sit with you?
 
UncleBuck

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Johnnyorganic said:
Consider this:

The government decrees through the regulations of some official agency that everyone be forced to take a drug test.

And anyone pissing hot will have involuntary contraception FORCED on them regardless of their consent.

How does that sit with you?
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no need to bring newt gingrich into this discussion :)
 
420God

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Johnnyorganic said:
Consider this:

The government decrees through the regulations of some official agency that everyone be forced to take a drug test.

And anyone pissing hot will have involuntary contraception FORCED on them regardless of their consent.

How does that sit with you?
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That's not the topic at hand.
 
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