Silica/Neem in Veg for spider mites and Silica/Spinosad in Flower???

Freddie Millergogo

Freddie Millergogo

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I talked to a guy who said to spray Silica on plants as a spider mite preventative.

This guy Jerry in Maine says in Veg - Neem oil, Silica and Aloe Juice to make it stick.
In Flower he says Spinosad, Silica and Aloe Juice to make it stick.
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/indestructible-spider-mites.1093472/

"Jerry's" formula:
Recipe: add a tablespoon to a cupful of room temp (tepid) water. To this add a quarter teaspoon (it's all you need) of liquid silica ProTekt, and stir. You'll notice the oil beads immediately emulsify. Add this to a gallon of tepid water (no chlorine - let it sit out overnight if needed). Add a quarter of a cup of Aloe Vera juice ( you can get this at most health food stores - I use "Lily of the Valley" brand) and shake well until you see it "foam" up a little, activating the surfactant properties of the aloe.

I assume the tablespoon is for Neem oil in veg and per gallon, quarter tea of Silica and quarter cup of Aloe (which seems like bullshit). In FLower - I think per gallon of water that Spinosad would need at least 2 tablespoons but maybe not.

Then I found this where they sell Silica by the bag aka Potassium silicate
https://customhydronutrients.com/potassium-silicate-one-pound-32-k2o-528-sio2-p-68.html?cPath=1_60_68&zenid=d440d05e1ed7de60c7e0c4548c991b12
They mention:
For foliar IPM application, we reccomend mixing AgSil 16H with Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil.
Mix 1.5 grams AgSil 16H with 1 ounce Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil to saponify the oil. Then mix this saponified oil with one gallon final volume spray solution. Spray every other week covering all plant surfaces (top and bottom of leaves) until it runs off.

They do not say if this is for bugs.

So have any of you "homies" or "bro's" ever tried this?

I know liquid Silica toughens the plants but does it do anything to mites? Silica is based on sand aka glass which is similar to Diatemecious Earth which cuts bugs up. I cannot see liquid Silica cutting up bugs.
 
Silence 208

Silence 208

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Hey man I see your having trouble finding the right answer I only and will only use AZAMAX BY GENERAL HYDROPONICS easy to use and very fast direct application to leaves tops and under the leaves most people forget to spray the under side and also soil application if you see bugs use first ask questions later I hope this helps you out any garden shop will carry it and it comes with a kool spray bottle with a 360 swivel head for the under side of the leaves
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Silence 208 said:
Hey man I see your having trouble finding the right answer I only and will only use AZAMAX BY GENERAL HYDROPONICS easy to use and very fast direct application to leaves tops and under the leaves most people forget to spray the under side and also soil application if you see bugs use first ask questions later I hope this helps you out any garden shop will carry it and it comes with a kool spray bottle with a 360 swivel head for the under side of the leaves
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neem oil is azamax PLUS a buuunch of extras.
Freddie Millergogo said:
I know liquid Silica toughens the plants but does it do anything to mites? Silica is based on sand aka glass which is similar to Diatemecious Earth which cuts bugs up. I cannot see liquid Silica cutting up bugs.
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the aloe and silica isn't to kill the mites, it's a surfactant.
and the silica in protect isn't exactly the same as DM.

for spider mites I don't like sprays or chemicals, solely because the end result is a herd/flock/clusterfuck of chemically resistant mites that do nothing but give you the finger when you spray them.
don't ask how I know.
I can confidently say that I probably have the most experience with spider mites of anyone on the damn planet.
which is a dubious honor
predator mites are the best remedy.
and cleanest too
 
Silence 208

Silence 208

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greasemonkeymann said:
neem oil is azamax PLUS a buuunch of extras.

the aloe and silica isn't to kill the mites, it's a surfactant.
and the silica in protect isn't exactly the same as DM.

for spider mites I don't like sprays or chemicals, solely because the end result is a herd/flock/clusterfuck of chemically resistant mites that do nothing but give you the finger when you spray them.
don't ask how I know.
I can confidently say that I probably have the most experience with spider mites of anyone on the damn planet.
which is a dubious honor
predator mites are the best remedy.
and cleanest too
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Well if your mite problem is as bad as you say it is time to go buy 1000 lady bugs they will eradicate your pest problem
 
Freddie Millergogo

Freddie Millergogo

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Silence 208 said:
Well if your mite problem is as bad as you say it is time to go buy 1000 lady bugs they will eradicate your pest problem
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Ladybugs are useless against spider mites. LB eat Thrips but not mites. Predator mites are way to finicky. According to one poster it is Green Lace Wing larvae. You can spend less for just the eggs which hatch in 4 days and give you larvae.
 
Silence 208

Silence 208

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I personally run indoor grows and not once have I had mites in over 10 yrs so maybe that's why I don't have the best insight on the problem lol dirty grow room tend to be the target of most pest problems I run a tight ship and unwanted guest don't come around
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Freddie Millergogo said:
Ladybugs are useless against spider mites. LB eat Thrips but not mites. Predator mites are way to finicky. According to one poster it is Green Lace Wing larvae. You can spend less for just the eggs which hatch in 4 days and give you larvae.
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once you know which mites are for what circumstances its not hard at all.
and it's not that they are finicky (they are relentless in fact)
it's just you want the right types or they'll hibernate.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Silence 208 said:
I personally run indoor grows and not once have I had mites in over 10 yrs so maybe that's why I don't have the best insight on the problem lol dirty grow room tend to be the target of most pest problems I run a tight ship and unwanted guest don't come around
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well shit man..
if you haven't had experience with them..
don't give out advice you haven't firsthand verified then..

mumble, mumble
ladybugs...?
c'mon
and I grow outside in an unsealed shed in a redwood forest, with four different spider mites present outside.
 
Silence 208

Silence 208

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Well I could care less if it's bad advice lol I said lady bugs to be funny about the situation it's not that hard to get rid of pest even easier to prevent them by spraying the surrounding area with repellant against mites
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Silence 208 said:
I can insure you that your wrong whitebb look at my tent clean no pest 29 days old no gnats no mites just healthy girls and p.s I'm always high Dick lol
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Assure not insure.

You haven't been growing long enough then.

Those steps might work for some. I grow outdoors, grow flowers and vegetables and have pets and kids. No way to keep pest out.

I keep a clean cab, change clothes before touching plants. I have even went to waiting until after I shower to mess with my plants. I spray inside and outside my home every six months with a good bug spray (same as the pros use).

I use neem meal and oil in veg. I also use diatomaceous earth in and on my soil.

It is what it is and it happening does not mean one is lazy or dirty.
 
Silence 208

Silence 208

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whitebb2727 said:
Assure not insure.

You haven't been growing long enough then.

Those steps might work for some. I grow outdoors, grow flowers and vegetables and have pets and kids. No way to keep pest out.

I keep a clean cab, change clothes before touching plants. I have even went to waiting until after I shower to mess with my plants. I spray inside and outside my home every six months with a good bug spray (same as the pros use).

I use neem meal and oil in veg. I also use diatomaceous earth in and on my soil.

It is what it is and it happening does not mean one is lazy or dirty.
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Lol auto correct inserted insure Dick face sorry if I didn't proof read before I posted and I've grown in and out I just prefer to grow inside and EVERYTHING is preventable and able to be maintained your just one of those excuse type of people I have kids and 3 dogs and I maintain perfection call me a liar but it is what it is and my end product ALWAYS gets 400$ plus an Oz so maybe it's time to take up a new hobby and buy from someone who knows what the fuck they are doing as far as preventable maintenance is concerned so the product is a superior smoke not bombarded with pesticides and whatever your doing
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Silence 208 said:
Lol auto correct inserted insure Dick face sorry if I didn't proof read before I posted and I've grown in and out I just prefer to grow inside and EVERYTHING is preventable and able to be maintained your just one of those excuse type of people I have kids and 3 dogs and I maintain perfection call me a liar but it is what it is and my end product ALWAYS gets 400$ plus an Oz so maybe it's time to take up a new hobby and buy from someone who knows what the fuck they are doing as far as preventable maintenance is concerned so the product is a superior smoke not bombarded with pesticides and whatever your doing
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right...
hey lets see some pics of your herb man, I bet yours are mindboggling awesome.
oh, and it's "you're"
as in "you're a douchebag"
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