So whats a MAGAs excuse for believing Trump won?

DIY-HP-LED said:
That is an illusion, you have no control over your mind or your life, if you did, you wouldn't be an ignorant loser, wasting your time with screwball rationalizations for your perversions.
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Hmmm rationalizations eh? Like the one the god you pray to (government) uses ?

"We will force you to give us money to protect you from people who might force you to give them money"



Perversions? My perversions are well within my control, I've gotten my mental masturbating down to like twice a day. In fact, I can erect a much firmer argument than you can, old fella.
 
Rob Roy said:
Hmmm rationalizations eh? Like the one the god you pray to (government) uses ?
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I don't believe in God or pray, I believe in natural explanations for phenomena, causation and shit like that. We all have intrinsic biases, unless we take measures to mitigate or remove them, most of the things science does, is to remove biases so we can better comprehend reality. The world is as it is, not as we wish it to be, that is the starting point for change, have a solid grounding in reality, know what ya got, before you consider what you want and how to get it.
 
Fogdog said:
I haven't read any of his bullshit posts but from the number of them recently....
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Summary of sovereign citizens:
Their morals take precedence over the law, since government is evil and they are moral, recurring theme.
A little bubble of their morality follows them anywhere they go, thus granting them sovereignty over that domain wherever they travel.
They take the concept that they are an individual nation who govern themselves, never explain how society is supposed to function though...just what they disagree with.
Somehow this is all in the Constitution but ignores centuries of common law, hidden from us,because we were trained not to see it since birth is the common answer.
 
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DCcan said:
Summary of sovereign citizens:
Their morals take precedence over the law, since government is evil and they are moral, recurring theme.
A little bubble of their morality follows them anywhere they go, thus granting them sovereignty over that domain wherever they travel.
They take the concept that they are an individual nation who govern themselves, never explain how society is supposed to function though...just what they disagree with.
Somehow this is all in the Constitution but ignores centuries of common law, hidden from us,because we were trained not to see it since birth is the common answer.
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The term "sovereign citizen" is an oxymoron. Nice try though.


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DIY-HP-LED said:
I thought he pigeonholed your brand of stupidity rather succinctly and accurately...
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I thought he cornholed the meaning of words and mashed two dissimilar concepts together. Context is important.

For instance when the term "sovereign" is applied to an individual only, it means that person is the supreme ruler of themselves. Implied within that concept, is they are not the ruler over others as the word sovereign sometimes means. Hence, context.

Most often when the term "citizen" is applied to a person, it means that person is not the supreme ruler of themselves and are beholden to a ruler that is not themselves.

I'm sure even you, a distinctly uninformed and verbose brand of nincompoop can now see the difference. You're welcome.
 
Rob Roy said:
Most often when the term "citizen" is applied to a person, it means that person is not the supreme ruler of themselves and are beholden to a ruler that is not themselves.
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You think you’re the “supreme” ruler of yourself. :spew:And laws don’t apply to you?

Omfg it’s getting harder to take you seriously. You have to be trolling.

It’s the same shit as a sovereign citizen. Just a trailer trash version of it.
 
DCcan said:
Voulentaryism, nullify laws and politicians by ignoring them.
Same Zebra, different stripes. Ignore the pony show he puts on.
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Involuntaryism, embrace victimless crime laws and coercion based rulers by worshipping them
Same donkey. different douche, embrace the dogfaced pony show he puts on
 
Wattzzup said:
You think you’re the “supreme” ruler of yourself. :spew:And laws don’t apply to you?

Omfg it’s getting harder to take you seriously. You have to be trolling.
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The only law I am obligated to obey is not to trespass against others.

If you aren't the supreme ruler of yourself, who is ?
 
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