Socialism loses again

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HashBucket

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abandonconflict said:
you have demonstrated that you don't know what it even is.
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I don't need to 'demonstrate' anything to you. Socialism is a word, commonly used and easy to reference.
Go to Google.com and just put the word in, it will tell you the definition. That is my understanding of what the word means, what the concept is.
In short it is the system where government controls all sources of capital or capital creation or income.

Now, you going to tell me I'm wrong and stupid, and not give your impression of what socialism is ... you will just leave it dangling at insults and profanities. Right comrade?
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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kgp said:
Maybe because of the history of the USA? Maybe because slaves and segregation was a real thing? Not arguing about feelings or right or wrong, just facts. Look at number 44, cant you see that times are changing? Maybe because our current political system is a hack job? Candidate sell outs or insiders. Last time I knew skin color wasn't a qualification and shouldn't be... Its the liberals who think being a minority is a box in the check list.
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Things have been changing for 50 years, I am pointing out that it is not an instant change. The full population is just this last couple elections being represented by one party. The other party only represents white people at this point. The only party that has a skin color requirement for the last 50 years has been the Republican party.

There is a reason why the minority communities have been struggling to keep up with the middle class, it is because the government has not been equally applied for them.
 
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londonfog said:
Did you go to a public school ?
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Ya know, I actually typed it all out. But, I erased it.

~ The topics that we discuss here don't depend on credentials.
~ I have many enemies here, haters of the country I love and I don't want to give them a lot of personal info to use against me.
~ No matter what I say, you either won't believe me and you'll call me liar; or you'll twist it to some kind of 'white privilege' thing and call me racist.
~ Nothing that we talk about here is about me, or it shouldn't be. I am irrelevant. My ideas are not.

But, most of the education I have was not achieved in school.
If you want, picture me as a fat truck driver with a GED and a haz-mat certification.

And, you'll have a better chance of an answer from me if you show me yours first.
So, did YOU go to public school?
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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HashBucket said:
Ya know, I actually typed it all out. But, I erased it.

~ The topics that we discuss here don't depend on credentials.
~ I have many enemies here, haters of the country I love and I don't want to give them a lot of personal info to use against me.
~ No matter what I say, you either won't believe me and you'll call me liar; or you'll twist it to some kind of 'white privilege' thing and call me racist.
~ Nothing that we talk about here is about me, or it shouldn't be. I am irrelevant. My ideas are not.

But, most of the education I have was not achieved in school.
If you want, picture me as a fat truck driver with a GED and a haz-mat certification.

You'll have a better chance of an answer from me if you show me yours first.
So, did YOU go to public school?
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I did. I was a shit student that would not have graduated if it wasn't for my 7th grade teacher talking me into joining the wrestling team.
 
UncleBuck

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HashBucket said:
I don't need to 'demonstrate' anything to you. Socialism is a word, commonly used and easy to reference.
Go to Google.com and just put the word in, it will tell you the definition. That is my understanding of what the word means, what the concept is.
In short it is the system where government controls all sources of capital or capital creation or income.

Now, you going to tell me I'm wrong and stupid, and not give your impression of what socialism is ... you will just leave it dangling at insults and profanities. Right comrade?
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Your definition is wrong, trashbucket
 
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hanimmal said:
I did. I was a shit student that would not have graduated if it wasn't for my 7th grade teacher talking me into joining the wrestling team.
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And hey, if you have a life that you want. If you are ok with your history ... that's all that matters really.
Formal education is a huge waste ... UNLESS you get creds in STEM. I want my doctor to have advanced degrees. The engineer that designed the plane I'm flying in should have degrees.
What I learned in school post HS, could have been taught in about one year.

Intelligent, inquisitive minds educate themselves.
 
UncleBuck

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HashBucket said:
And hey, if you have a life that you want. If you are ok with your history ... that's all that matters really.
Formal education is a huge waste ... UNLESS you get creds in STEM. I want my doctor to have advanced degrees. The engineer that designed the plane I'm flying in should have degrees.
What I learned in school post HS, could have been taught in about one year.

Intelligent, inquisitive minds educate themselves.
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You’ve never had that issue, trashbucket
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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HashBucket said:
And hey, if you have a life that you want. If you are ok with your history ... that's all that matters really.
Formal education is a huge waste ... UNLESS you get creds in STEM. I want my doctor to have advanced degrees. The engineer that designed the plane I'm flying in should have degrees.
What I learned in school post HS, could have been taught in about one year.

Intelligent, inquisitive minds educate themselves.
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That is pretty much what it takes to get the random classes you have to take when getting a degree. Most students just spread them out.

You would be surprised though, I had to take a few of the classes not in my major as an adult to finish my degrees and I did learn a lot in them, unfortunately most people just take classes with the mindset of getting the grade and moving on and don't try to get anything for their money. It doesn't mean it is not important to get this information into the world and having a system where people are able to contribute to these fields.

The 'anti-intellectual' movement is really wrapped up in the online trolling too, they learned from the religions that the best way to keep people in their bubbles/cults is to keep them uneducated.
 
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But, I'll take a chance and answer your question:

I went to grade school in Florida. A private Catholic school run by the Jesuits. At about 10 yrs old I began a program in preparation to going to Seminary to become a priest. At about 16 it was 'determined' that I 'lacked faith' and was 'not suitable for priesthood.'
Know what that means? It's similar verbiage that the commies use. It means "You ask too many questions." And the problem with religion is that, at some point it boils down to "It is that way because I say so..." That doesn't work with me, its not in my DNA ...
When was 17 my family moved back to Cali, and the schools here at the time said I had enough time in to graduate if I got US History out of the way. So, I took a crash course, got my HS Diploma.
And went to Europe.
London, Belgium, Switzerland; stayed in a small village near Stuttgart and went to "eine Schuler fur auslanders" (college) and studied European History 1900 forward. That's where I learned to love politics. I got to actually talk to people who were in Germany during WW2. Just regular people. THATS where the real education is, not in books.

I came back to the US, started and raised a family, and at the ripe old age of 30 decided to get my degree. I did my four years in three from Cal State Hayward and graduated with degrees in Managerial Economics and Business Administration in 1985 or so.
 
UncleBuck

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HashBucket said:
But, I'll take a chance and answer your question:

I went to grade school in Florida. A private Catholic school run by the Jesuits. At about 10 yrs old I began a program in preparation to going to Seminary to become a priest. At about 16 it was 'determined' that I 'lacked faith' and was 'not suitable for priesthood.'
Know what that means? It's similar verbiage that the commies use. It means "You ask too many questions." And the problem with religion is that, at some point it boils down to "It is that way because I say so..." That doesn't work with me, its not in my DNA ...
When was 17 my family moved back to Cali, and the schools here at the time said I had enough time in to graduate if I got US History out of the way. So, I took a crash course, got my HS Diploma.
And went to Europe.
London, Belgium, Switzerland; stayed in a small village near Stuttgart and went to "eine Schuler fur auslanders" (college) and studied European History 1900 forward. That's where I learned to love politics. I got to actually talk to people who were in Germany during WW2. Just regular people. THATS where the real education is, not in books.
I came back to the US, started and raised a family, and at the ripe old age of 30 decided to get my degree. I did my four years in three from Cal State Hayward and graduated with degrees in Managerial Economics and Business Administration in 1985 or so.
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Remember when you got busted for pretending to have an education?

maybe you should retire that obvious lie already, trashbucket
 
Grandpapy

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HashBucket said:
Intelligent, inquisitive minds educate themselves.
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HashBucket said:
But, I'll take a chance and answer your question:

I went to grade school in Florida. A private Catholic school run by the Jesuits. At about 10 yrs old I began a program in preparation to going to Seminary to become a priest. At about 16 it was 'determined' that I 'lacked faith' and was 'not suitable for priesthood.'
Know what that means? It's similar verbiage that the commies use. It means "You ask too many questions." And the problem with religion is that, at some point it boils down to "It is that way because I say so..." That doesn't work with me, its not in my DNA ...
When was 17 my family moved back to Cali, and the schools here at the time said I had enough time in to graduate if I got US History out of the way. So, I took a crash course, got my HS Diploma.
And went to Europe.
London, Belgium, Switzerland; stayed in a small village near Stuttgart and went to "eine Schuler fur auslanders" (college) and studied European History 1900 forward. That's where I learned to love politics. I got to actually talk to people who were in Germany during WW2. Just regular people. THATS where the real education is, not in books.

I came back to the US, started and raised a family, and at the ripe old age of 30 decided to get my degree. I did my four years in three from Cal State Hayward and graduated with degrees in Managerial Economics and Business Administration in 1985 or so.
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But you missed the class on slide of hand.

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You're not a Capitalist comrade.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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HashBucket said:
But, I'll take a chance and answer your question:

I went to grade school in Florida. A private Catholic school run by the Jesuits. At about 10 yrs old I began a program in preparation to going to Seminary to become a priest. At about 16 it was 'determined' that I 'lacked faith' and was 'not suitable for priesthood.'
Know what that means? It's similar verbiage that the commies use. It means "You ask too many questions." And the problem with religion is that, at some point it boils down to "It is that way because I say so..." That doesn't work with me, its not in my DNA ...
When was 17 my family moved back to Cali, and the schools here at the time said I had enough time in to graduate if I got US History out of the way. So, I took a crash course, got my HS Diploma.
And went to Europe.
London, Belgium, Switzerland; stayed in a small village near Stuttgart and went to "eine Schuler fur auslanders" (college) and studied European History 1900 forward. That's where I learned to love politics. I got to actually talk to people who were in Germany during WW2. Just regular people. THATS where the real education is, not in books.

I came back to the US, started and raised a family, and at the ripe old age of 30 decided to get my degree. I did my four years in three from Cal State Hayward and graduated with degrees in Managerial Economics and Business Administration in 1985 or so.
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Right on, I have virtually zero world culture outside of some german classes that I had in school, which I loved.

The important thing I would point out is that when those people are gone, it is important that there are others in the world to record their stories and to be able to help find that otherwise forgotten knowledge. And scores of other fields to try to understand what it all means.

I think going forward with our current technologic levels, our whole approach to education needs to change. The 'libs' tried a bunch of interesting things with schooling after ww2 but Reagan and the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male Only agenda decided rich people needed tax cuts more than kids needed education. But the internet really broke everything.

It is basically like a new 'age' and we move forward with a lot better understanding of the entire chain of events in our decision making far faster and more accurately. Things will get better, it is inevitable. The online world and 24 hour news is just amplifies the bad stuff so much it becomes impossible to think it isn't true.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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kgp said:
Maybe because of the history of the USA? Maybe because slaves and segregation was a real thing? Not arguing about feelings or right or wrong, just facts. Look at number 44, cant you see that times are changing? Maybe because our current political system is a hack job? Candidate sell outs or insiders. Last time I knew skin color wasn't a qualification and shouldn't be... Its the liberals who think being a minority is a box in the check list.
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You miss the point, it is only white men that have made skin color a qualification and they used the government as a tool to see it done. Nobody is taking anything away from the white man.

The Democratic party is drawing from a much larger population. I think generalizing every politician is pretty weak. It is a convenient troll that the Russians use to make people feel disenfranchised and so they become less likely to vote.

Outside of speeding and paying taxes people mostly never notice laws we have. Most government is about making sure the people don't kill themselves by poisioninig themselves on a epic scale with some sort of toxic waste.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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HashBucket said:
I don't need to 'demonstrate' anything to you.
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You have demonstrated, repeatedly, that you don't know what the word means. You started this thread. You're the one getting upset because nobody respects your views.

How could we? You keep using words that you can't define and attempting to draw us into defending positions we don't align with. You're just a troll with nothing of value to offer. I didn't offer any insults. You just have trouble with understanding words, clearly.
 
captainmorgan

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Calling the current GOP conservatives is a joke, they are extremist right wingers. They have a narrow extreme view of the world and look to punish anyone that doesn't hold their views, they have more in common with ISIS or al qaeda.
 
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