Some facts on our last swine flu vaccination proram

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* More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.



* 500 cases of GBS were detected. (Guillian-Barré Syndrome, a sometimes fatal disease in which the immune system attacks the nervous system)



* The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.



* The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.



* The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.
 
Its different now. The vaccine is the same, but the producers of the vaccine will be immune from law suits when the vaccine causes your children to die. Because really when it comes down to it, your children belong to the Government anyway.
 
The vaccine is the same
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You need a little info on vaccines.

When they give you the shot it is with a 'dead' form of the virus itself, which is incapable of making you infected with it. But your body does not know that, so it produces antibodies to attack it and that is how you create a defense to it. There is no way to get sick from it.

How people get sick is that during this period they are weakened and that can lead to them catching something else.


Back in the 70's I am guessing science wasn't evolved enough to understand fully and they may have used 'live' viruses.
 
hanimmal said:
You need a little info on vaccines.

When they give you the shot it is with a 'dead' form of the virus itself, which is incapable of making you infected with it. But your body does not know that, so it produces antibodies to attack it and that is how you create a defense to it. There is no way to get sick from it.

How people get sick is that during this period they are weakened and that can lead to them catching something else.


Back in the 70's I am guessing science wasn't evolved enough to understand fully and they may have used 'live' viruses.
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No need to try to educate me, I already know all of that. I learned it in 3rd grade 40 some years ago. If you try to educate yourself you would find out that the 1976 vaccine was also a Killed virus. Guess what it was called back then? Swine Flu. They had commercials about it warning of the huge danger to everyone, I remember seeing some old man laying in bed shivering on the TV in one of the commercials. Propaganda, 1 person died after contracting the virus, but he died of complications from the ensuing bacterial infection and not directly from the virus. The CDC had people running to get their kids all vaccinated, they were having to ration the vaccine shots. Many people were scared. In the end the Vaccine killed 25 people and got almost 1000 paralyzed. this "Swine Flu" is called "Mexican Flu" every where else around the world. Its a scare tactic, the regular yearly flu kills 36,000 people in the USA each year. So far "Swine" has only killed 500 or so. If the virus mutates, the vaccine won't do you any good anyway.
 
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No need to try to educate me, I already know all of that. I learned it in 3rd grade 40 some years ago. If you try to educate yourself you would find out that the 1976 vaccine was also a Killed virus. Guess what it was called back then? Swine Flu. They had commercials about it warning of the huge danger to everyone, I remember seeing some old man laying in bed shivering on the TV in one of the commercials. Propaganda, 1 person died after contracting the virus, but he died of complications from the ensuing bacterial infection and not directly from the virus. The CDC had people running to get their kids all vaccinated, they were having to ration the vaccine shots. Many people were scared. In the end the Vaccine killed 25 people and got almost 1000 paralyzed. this "Swine Flu" is called "Mexican Flu" every where else around the world. Its a scare tactic, the regular yearly flu kills 36,000 people in the USA each year. So far "Swine" has only killed 500 or so. If the virus mutates, the vaccine won't do you any good anyway.
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Then I am left to wonder if you know all about vaccines why you would say this:

The vaccine is the same, but the producers of the vaccine will be immune from law suits when the vaccine causes your children to die.
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hanimmal said:
Then I am left to wonder if you know all about vaccines why you would say this:
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25 times more people died from the vaccine than died from the virus. What part of this don't you understand? That people died, or that the vaccine caused it? what part? I will explain it so that even your feeble herd mentality mind can understand. 25 of those people were someones child. you don't get it do you?
 
25 times more people died from the vaccine than died from the virus. What part of this don't you understand? That people died, or that the vaccine caused it? what part? I will explain it so that even your feeble herd mentality mind can understand. 25 of those people were someones child. you don't get it do you?
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No problem. You are saying that people are dying from a vaccine. It not possible for people to die from a vaccine. They can die from other viruses that they already are infected with, or ones that they catch while their immune system is weakened. But " when the vaccine causes your children to die" is wrong. Because the virus is dead and cannot cause you to get sick much less die.

You say I have a herd mentality, but you are wrong. I am just not going to sit by when bullshit is spewed in a way that creates misguided panics like you are doing.


 
hanimmal said:
No problem. You are saying that people are dying from a vaccine. It not possible for people to die from a vaccine. They can die from other viruses that they already are infected with, or ones that they catch while their immune system is weakened. But " when the vaccine causes your children to die" is wrong. Because the virus is dead and cannot cause you to get sick much less die.

You say I have a herd mentality, but you are wrong. I am just not going to sit by when bullshit is spewed in a way that creates misguided panics like you are doing.
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Your reading comprehension skills suck. I never said the dead virus killed those people, I said the FUCKING VACCINE killed them. Read this dummy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html

Impossible huh? Guess the government just "Paid" those people off in the millions of dollars because they were guilty of an impossibility. You are impossibly close minded.
 
Your reading comprehension skills suck. I never said the dead virus killed those people, I said the FUCKING VACCINE killed them. Read this dummy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-America.html

Impossible huh? Guess the government just "Paid" those people off in the millions of dollars because they were guilty of an impossibility. You are impossibly close minded.
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You are impossibly idiotic to put words into my mouth.

Look deeper before you go off and believe that this is the cause of the 25 people deaths when 40 million people were treated for it. There is no proof that this is the case.

The fact that it is not good science backing the claim up should add to the conversation. http://www.disabled-world.com/health/influenza/swine-flu/h1n1-guillain-barre.php

Doctors are not absolutely certain whether or not the flu itself, or the vaccine was responsible for causing Guillain-Barre syndrome in those affected. The H1N1 vaccine being used in America is a different one that the one that was used thirty years ago, although doctors are being asked to report cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome. There is debate over the vaccine, with some doctors suggesting that it may even prevent the syndrome. In Britain, Guillain-Barre syndrome affects about one-thousand five-hundred people each year.
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1. The vaccine is different.
2. There is proven evidence that show it is the cause of the 25 deaths when 40million where injected.
3. 1,500 people in the UK get it each year now.
4. It still stands that it may not be the vaccine doing it, and still falls within what I had said earlier about weakened immune system that goes into something else that is not the injection:
Medical science does not understand why Guillain-Barre syndrome affects some people but not others. What is known is that a person's immune system starts to attack itself causing an autoimmune disease
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5. And the government maybe thought that it was the case that it caused it, and decided to pay to let it go away since it was such a small amount of people that were affected and they completely overreacted to such a small thing.

Luckily over the last 30+ years science has vastly improved.
 
Not being absolutely certain means you can still be 99.9% certain and still not be absolutely certain. If you read the article another way, you can exchange "Absolutely certain" with "99% sure" and it still reads the exact same way.

Kinda like when they say " Studies suggest that marijuana causes brain cell dysfunction" What that really means is that they cannot correlate the data to the cause, therefore they hope that you will be fooled by their manipulation of words.
 
NoDrama said:
Run along little sheep , run now go and get your government sponsored medicine, free Kool Aid after the stabs.
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