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splifchris

splifchris

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jondamon said:
The trouble with this advice is that in the UK most temporary jobs are being filled by immigrant workers and unless your surname ends with "ski" then UK unemployed people are getting passed over for jobs.

Here in the UK for an unemployed person to save up £100-£200 would take quite a substantial amount of time. If they claim unemployment benefit (welfare) then this is around £150 a fortnight.

Could you feed yourself/family, heat your home, pay your tv license, council tax etc etc on this money.

I own my own home and pay £161 a month for elec and gas, £56 a month for water, £12 a month for a tv license, spend around £200 on food shopping, pay almost £100 a month on council tax. Then there's gasoline costs at £1.32 a litre around £6.50 a gallon or equivalent to $10 a gallon.

I actually live in what's called "fuel poverty" because I spend over 10% of my salary on electricity and gas.


So to say someone could "easily" save the money is an absolute joke when you know nothing of their circumstances.


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I feel you man... Here in ireland ive just had the longest pox of a winter ever (and i mean until today)... Ive been spending 30 euro a week on heating oil, 15 on coal, 10 on logs, then 35 a week on electic, plus rent, home phone & internet, mobile, poxy 5 year old credit card, smokes and food.... fuck its hard keeping a float... FUCK THE BANKS!!!!
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Jubag420 said:
Nicely said Jondamon, id like to add that some1 claiming JSA (Job seekers allowance) its £116 every 2 weeks. I applyed for a job in my local factory a few weeks ago & 8/12 people that turned up for interview were Polish, i didnt get the job. Currently the job center are offering me £34 a week because of a sanction, so saving for lights isnt easy at the moment :/
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No worries pal.

If I had any spare equipment I would let you have it for a cheap price. But I don't.

I've got minimal money invested in my setup now compared to the over board hobbyist I was just over a year ago.

Incase you want to recreate my setup here is everything I use with cost break down so you know how much you'd need.

Lumatek 400w dimmable £100
ADJUST A WING £55
SYLVANIA GROLUX 400w hps £22
RVK150E2-A1 480m3/h fan £74
CANLITE 6" 600m3/h filter (good for 2years) £70
SMS SMART FAN SPEED CONTROLLER £72
MAXIBRIGHT Lighting contactor £25
GRASSLINE TIMER £18
Temp/RH gauge £14
Oscillating fans £15
6" Ducting £20

Total £485

Then there are obviously additions that I was able to add such as reflective film and eazy rollers (light hangers).

Pots and nutrients can be simple if you choose it to be.


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blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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jondamon said:
The trouble with this advice is that in the UK most temporary jobs are being filled by immigrant workers and unless your surname ends with "ski" then UK unemployed people are getting passed over for jobs.

Here in the UK for an unemployed person to save up £100-£200 would take quite a substantial amount of time. If they claim unemployment benefit (welfare) then this is around £150 a fortnight.

Could you feed yourself/family, heat your home, pay your tv license, council tax etc etc on this money.

I own my own home and pay £161 a month for elec and gas, £56 a month for water, £12 a month for a tv license, spend around £200 on food shopping, pay almost £100 a month on council tax. Then there's gasoline costs at £1.32 a litre around £6.50 a gallon or equivalent to $10 a gallon.

I actually live in what's called "fuel poverty" because I spend over 10% of my salary on electricity and gas.


So to say someone could "easily" save the money is an absolute joke when you know nothing of their circumstances.


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If you think the Polish are job competition, you ain't never met a Mexican..

As for the OP.. sounds like some type of set up
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

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Also, OP, Jondamon is full of great info, don't be afraid to take his advice or try and mimic exactly what he's doing. Check out his journals, his buds look nice and glazed, he has great yields from a small footprint, and his setup is nowhere near overboard.
 
WayBaked

WayBaked

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jondamon said:
Growing with any other person is a mistake.

Regardless of who they are.

The green eyed monster shows up in everyone.



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Me & my 2 business partners have never gotten along better than when we started growing. And I've only known one of them for less than 2 years, the other for less than 3 months.

This experience is far from common though. We had a bit of... problems with the 4th person that we originally started with. He's down to a 10% stake right now and 0% after this cycle.

And I have to say, it is very unpleasant having somebody in your operation that isn't perfect chemistry with everybody else.

I would highly recommend avoiding business partners, but if they're just loaning for the set-up and first cycle, and then it's all you... might be worth it. If they want a 10% yield for all future grows, don't.

jondamon said:
unless your surname ends with "ski" then UK unemployed people are getting passed over for jobs.
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Mine ends with "wicz", is that good enough? ;)
 
Jubag420

Jubag420

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Hahaa its cool Jondamon. Is there anywhere i can get all the from 1 place? Online preferably :) Ive been looking at https://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk They've got everything i need, justa lil pricey :/ The set up im now considering is: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Filter-Lumatek-Ballast-Reflector-Thermometer/dp/B00BJ5OE9S/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1369768095&sr=8-14&keywords=400w+hps+kit. Then the Wilma 8 here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Hydroponics/Wilma-Systems/Wilma-8-Pot-System/ With 90L of clay pebbles & the GHE nutes, meters etc. :) Everything from Greens Horticulture costs £263.38. Amazon item £319.99. Total £583.somthing, thats everything i need (I think) If theres anything ive missed please let me know, or anyway to make this abit cheaper ;) Saafe guys enjoying the banter :) Still no luck on the job front :(
 
Jubag420

Jubag420

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Didnt say what i was getting from Greens, sorry. Here:

Wilma 8 Pot System
£109.95
£109.95
Hydroleca 8-16MM 45 Litre Bag
£16.99
£33.98
Option 1 x 8 Cubes
£1.99
£3.98
Cultilene Large Propagation Cubes 36mm x 36mm x 40mm - Tray Of 24
£4.25
£4.25
EC Pen Calibration Fluid - 1.43
£2.64
£2.64
Budget EC Pen
£27.50
£27.50
HM Digital pH pen
£39.99
£39.99
pH Buffer 7 250ml
£2.64
£2.64
pH Down 250ml
£2.95
£2.95
PH Up 250ml
£2.95
£2.95
General Hydroponics Ripen 500ml
£4.63
£4.63
General Hydroponics Micro 1 Litre - Hard Water
£7.99
£7.99
General Hydroponics FloraBloom 1 Litre
£6.99

£6.99

 General Hydroponics FloraGro 1 Litre
£6.99
£6.99
 
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churchhaze

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Just save up and get the 400W HPS lamp. You're putting yourself into needless amounts of debt. If it's hard to find a few hundred pounds now, what makes you think it will be easy to pay back with interest?

Go ghetto and grow your operation slowly. If you expect everything at once, you'll collapse in a pile of red ink and debt...

The less money you have, the more work and creativity you're going to have to put into your grow. Make the tent out of wood 2x2s and screws. don't bother with "cooltubes", just get a batwing reflector and a magnetic ballast. Get some painters plastic and mylar blankets and staple it to the 2x2 frame. Cut a hole in the tent wall and use a stanley blower for the exhaust.

Do whatever you can to save money. If you're starting off, blowing 400 pounds on equipment all at once isn't wise, especially if you have to go into a lot of debt.

Slow down.

Jubag420 said:
Hahaa WTF!!! Sorry guys :D
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WayBaked

WayBaked

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churchhaze said:
Just save up and get the 400W HPS lamp. You're putting yourself into needless amounts of debt.

Go ghetto and grow slowly. If you expect everything at once, you'll collapse in a pile of debt...

The less money you have, the more work and creativity you're going to have to put into your grow. Make the tent out of wood 2x2s and screws. don't bother with "cooltubes", just get a batwing reflector and a magnetic ballast. Get some painters plastic and mylar blankets and staple it to the 2x2 frame. Cut a hole in the wall and use a stanley blower for the exhaust.

Do whatever you can to save money. If you're starting off, blowing 400 pounds on equipment all at once isn't wise, especially if you have to go into a lot of debt.

Slow down.
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This is good advice, especially if you have little to no experience growing.

I just sank thousands of dollars into an operation, if I wasn't certain that I will have a good yield, then I'd be putting myself in a risky position.

Shit can (and often will) hit the fan, and you could lose your entire crop. Then you have nothing and you still owe the guy money.
 
Jubag420

Jubag420

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Im not using this sponcer anymore, just going to sell the bike or save for 6-8 weeks :) Ive gotta close mate willing to go halfs on everything down to seeds & the rent :) In 10-12 weeks my CFL crop should b cut and i should b able to get a flat ;) Im just going to sign a Yr agreement, try and fit 4 crops in, if pos? :/ The wood costs more than the price of a tent buddy :/ The strains we've chosen are: Order.jpg
Wouldnt let me copy & paste so this is what you get :) Also if i order on the 9th there giving away:
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Fucking love being lazy :) Saafe
 
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churchhaze

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The wood for my 2.8' x 5.6' x 5.6' tent cost 19 dollars and is the perfect size for my operation (2x400W). The mylar blankets were 10, the screws were 6, the painters plastic about 10 dollars worth. You got your tent for 50 dollars? Surely not for 19.

The 2x400W HPS setups with simple batwing reflectors and magnetic ballasts were 130 dollars each when I got them.

They stanley blower was 50 at the time, and those things suck hardcore. (in the good way) I still use the same stanley for exhaust.

Jubag420 said:
Im not using this sponcer anymore, just going to sell the bike or save for 6-8 weeks :) Ive gotta close mate willing to go halfs on everything down to seeds & the rent :) In 10-12 weeks my CFL crop should b cut and i should b able to get a flat ;) Im just going to sign a Yr agreement, try and fit 4 crops in, if pos? :/ The wood costs more than the price of a tent buddy :/ The strains we've chosen are:
Wouldnt let me copy & paste so this is what you get :) Also if i order on the 9th there giving away:

Fucking love being lazy :) Saafe
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WayBaked

WayBaked

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Jubag420 said:
Im not using this sponcer anymore, just going to sell the bike or save for 6-8 weeks :) Ive gotta close mate willing to go halfs on everything down to seeds & the rent :) In 10-12 weeks my CFL crop should b cut and i should b able to get a flat ;) Im just going to sign a Yr agreement, try and fit 4 crops in, if pos? :/ The wood costs more than the price of a tent buddy :/ The strains we've chosen are: View attachment 2676207
Wouldnt let me copy & paste so this is what you get :) Also if i order on the 9th there giving away:

Fucking love being lazy :) Saafe
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Seedsman is good stuff, I helped a buddy grow some Seedsman Northern Lights & he got 10 of 10 seeds germinated & 7 of 10 females. They all turned out amazing.
 
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churchhaze

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That looks like a decent design, just make it cheap and works and doesn't collapse under its own weight!! lol

I see a lot of new growers spending 200-300 dollars on tents alone.

Jubag420 said:
I could just get a tent for that, would also save so much hastle :) Sweet i cant wait to order them :)
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WayBaked

WayBaked

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For 1-4 plants, I'd recommend a grow tent. Anything more than that (with the exception of space-conserving methods such as a basic SoG) and you're probably better off building a room within a room, or converting an existing room.

From a cost-effective point of view anyway.
 
Jubag420

Jubag420

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I though of just building a wall half way through a bedroom? Using the side furthest away from the door :)
 
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