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stelthy

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H150W LED Grow Light


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The H150W is a slightly modified iteration of the H150 model. Built with the same Dense Matrix LED™ technology, the H150W incorporates a larger angle reflector, which allows the source to smoothly spread light over a wider area. Like the H150, it can be used for vegetation and blooming phases, but it is also great for plant propagation, coral growth, and a variety of other unique applications. The H150W is available in a number of various colors, and it's a perfect supplement for traditional fluorescent or HID lighting systems.




Bloom Booster


For gardeners who grow solely under fluorescent or HID sources, this RED spectrum is a perfect yield booster for the flowering and blooming phase. Mixing 30% 635 nm and 70% 660 nm LED, this well-balanced red spectrum provides improved results while consuming a minimal amount of energy.


This is the one :) !!! Now its just a case of finding it as cheap as possible from a reliable place On-Line :) ... - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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I know UV-C is bad for plants and people but does anyone know if Infra Red plays a part in Plant Growth at all ??? - STELTHY
 

cannawizard

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I know UV-C is bad for plants and people but does anyone know if Infra Red plays a part in Plant Growth at all ??? - STELTHY
*UV-c is bad.. but not for THC stalks... *whistling..

--hhmm infra red... nothing is coming up atm, too much caffeine & thc+ :Þ
 

stelthy

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Types of Lights for Cannabis Growing - Different Marijuana Lighting Sources



Light for cannabis plants

Without light, cannabis plants cannot grow. In the countries in which marijuana grows best, the sun is the source of light. The amount of light and the length of the growing season in these countries results in huge tree-like cannabis plants. In most parts of North America, however, the sun is not generally intense enough for long enough periods of time to produce the same size and quality of cannabis plants that grow with ease in Latin America and other tropical countries.

Sunshine is most intense at the equator where it is closest to the earth. Some of the largest, resin-coated buds in the world grow beneath this blazing sun. So what’s this got to do with indoor growing? Plenty. Light is one of the most basic needs of all cannabis plants and the most often mismanaged.

Even the most experienced growers forget about the basic needs of a cannabis plant, especially light.

The answer to the problem of lack of sun, especially in the winter months, shortness of the growing season, and other problems is to grow indoor under simulated conditions. The rule of thumb seems to be the more light, the better.

The common incandescent light bulb emits some of the frequencies of light the cannabis plant can use, but it also emits a high percentage of far red and infra-red light which cause the cannabis plant to concentrate its growth on the stem. This results in the cannabis plant stretching toward the light bulb until it becomes so tall and spindly that it just weakly topples over.

There are several brands of bulb type. One is the incandescent cannabis plant spot light which emits higher amounts of red and blue light than the common light bulb. It is an improvement, but has it drawbacks. it is hot, for example, and cannot be placed close to the cannabis plants.

Consequently, the cannabis plant has to stretch upwards again and is in danger of becoming elongated and falling over. The red bands of light seem to encourage stem growth which is not desirable in growing marijuana. The idea is to encourage foliage growth for obvious reasons.

Flourescent light tubes range in size from one to eight feet in length so you can set up a growing area almost anywhere. There are two types of flourescent lights; standard and the wide spectrum. They can be used in conjunction with one another, but the wide spectrum lights are not sufficient on their own. The wide spectrum lights were designed as a supplementary light source and are cheaper than the standard lights.

Wide spectrum lights emit the same bands of light as the standard but the standard emit higher concentrations of red and blue bands that the cannabis plants need to grow.

The wide spectrum lights also emit infra-red, the effect of which on stem growth we have already discussed. If you are planning to grow on a large scale, you might be interested to know that the regular fluorescent lamps and fixtures, the type that are used in commercial lighting, work well when used along with the grow lights.

These commercial lights are called cool whites, and are the cheapest of the fluorescent lights we have mentioned. They emit as much blue light as the standard grow lights and the blue light is what the cannabis plants use in foliage growth.


Intensity

Now we come to the question of intensity. Both the standard and wide spectrum lamps come in three intensities: regular output, high output, and very high output. You can grow a crop of cannabis plants under the regular output lamps. The difference in using the HO or VHO lamps is the time it takes to grow a crop.

Under a VHO lamp, the cannabis plants grow at a rate that is about three times the rate at which they grow under the standard lamps. People have been known to get a cannabis plant that is four feet tall in two months under one of these lights.

Under the VHO lights, one may have to raise the lights every day which means a growth rate of ate least two inches a day. The only drawback is the expense of the VHO lamps and fixtures. The VHO lamps and fixtures are almost twice the price of the standard.

Now that you have your lights up, you might be curious about the amount of light to give you cannabis plants per day. The maturation date of your cannabis plants is dependent on how much light they receive per day. The longer the dark period per day, the sooner the cannabis plant will bloom. Generally speaking, the less dark per day the better during the first six months of the cannabis plant's life.

If your cannabis plants receive 12 hours of light per day they will probably mature in 2 to 2.5 months. If they get 16 hours of light per day they will probably be blooming in 3.5 to 4 months. With 18 hours of light per day, they will flower in 4.5 to 5 months. Its a good idea to put your lights on a timer to ensure that the amount of light received each day remains constant.



How the Sunlight Effects cannabis plant Growth

200 - 280 nm UVC ultraviolet range which is extremely harmful to cannabis plants because it is highly toxic.

280 - 315 nm Includes harmful UVB ultraviolet light which causes cannabis plants colors to fade.

315 - 380 nm Range of UVA ultraviolet light which is neither harmful nor beneficial to cannabis plant growth.

380 - 400 nm Start of visible light spectrum. Process of chlorophyll absorption begins. UV protected plastics ideally block out any light below this range.

400 - 520 nm This range includes violet, blue, and green bands. Peak absorption by chlorophyll occurs, and a strong influence on photosynthesis. (promotes vegetative growth)
520 - 610 nm This range includes the green, yellow, and orange bands and has less absorption by pigments.
610 - 720 nm This is the red band. Large amount of absorption by chlorophyll occurs, and most significant influence on photosynthesis. (promotes flowering and budding)

*** 720 - 1000 nm *** There is little absorption by chlorophyll here. Flowering and germination is influenced. At the high end of the band is infrared, which is heat.

1000+ nm Heat



Marijuana Lighting Tips


Although natural sunlight is the best form of light for growing cannabis plants, their life cycle can be controlled more effectively with artificial lighting


The life cycle of the cannabis plant is determined by the daily photoperiod (hours of light per day).


A young cannabis plant tends to grow faster if it is grown under continuous light for the first two months of it's development.


Although the lamps should be kept as close as possible to the growing leaves, they should never be allowed to touch the cannabis plants.


The best light for cannabis plant growth emits high intensities of the blue and red bands of the light spectrum.


Fluorescent light is one of the most effective source of artificial light readily available to home growers.


Metal Halide lamps are better than most fluorescents, because they radiate more light in the blue and white bands of the light spectrum.


If your lights are too hot to touch with your hand, they are probably also too hot to be close to the growing leaves of cannabis plants.


The amount of light you supply your cannabis plants depends on the size of the garden, but at least 20 watts per square foot is recommended.


Although Metal Halide lamps are generally considered a better light source for marijuana growth, they use a lot more electricity than fluorescents..


Under artificial light, a cannabis plant can grow from three to six feet tall in three to four months.


cannabis plants entering the vegetative stage enjoy up to twenty two hours of light per day, while twelve hours or less is required for flowering.


The more light you give your cannabis plants, the faster they will grow.


Lamps should be fixed to the roof in such a way that they can easily be raised as the cannabis plant grows in height.


The use of reflectors ensures that the light is spread more uniformly around the cannabis plants.


To increase the humidity of the air in a small, enclosed garden, place a small bowl of water in the grow room.


Use a fan to cool down your cannabis plants if the lights in a small grow room raise the temperature too much.


cannabis plants grown in conditions of varying daily light patterns will not settle into a regular life cycle and will grow poorly.


If there is insufficient light in the grow room, the cannabis plants will often grow tall and thin, in search of the light.


Do not "wake up" your cannabis plants by switching on the lights if they are in the dark period of their daily light cycle.


cannabis plants grown with a long daily photoperiod, will require more frequent watering than those grown with less light.


Although incandescent, or screw-in light-bulbs are usually not suitable for good growth, they can be used in conjunction with fluorescent tubes.


If the edges of the leaves near the lights and growing tips start curling up, it usually means that they are getting too hot.


A cannabis plant will grow with as little as six hours of light per day, but requires more than twelve hours per day for good strong growth.


A cannabis plant grown with insufficient light may sometimes develop disfigured leaves with only one or two blades per leaf.


Paint the walls, floor and roof of your grow room white for better reflection of light onto your growing cannabis plants.


If you have a few cannabis plants growing unevenly under one light, you could raise the pots of the smallest cannabis plants by placing them on a few bricks.


Although easy to control, the daily light photoperiod is the single most important factor influencing the growth of your cannabis plants.


cannabis plants require less than twelve hours of light per day for at least two weeks before you can expect to see the first signs of flowers appearing.


Never increase the daily light photoperiod to more than twelve hours, once your cannabis plants have started flowering.


A cannabis plant grown indoors with lots of light will often grow larger and more potent than a similar cannabis plant growing outdoors in natural light.


To increase the amount of light available to the lower branches, you could mount extra fluorescent tubes vertically, onto the walls of your grow room....


Or


Do what I do and hang a Full Spectrum Lighting Rig and configure the colour dependant on whether in Veg or Flower :) :) :)








I got this info from http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/lights.php most of it is helpful and of good info too, I found it through chance on a Google Search :)







Anyway.. at least I can see that I wont need Infra-Red light since it concentrate on the stem and makes them spinderly... No Grower wants that lol.. so once I have the KESSIL Iam pretty certain I will have the Full Spectrum I so desire :) :) :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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good info! everything looking great. You still got bud leftover from your last harvest? :eyesmoke:
Cheers Psychedelic Breakfast :) Yeah I've still got roughly a Q left so I am slowly cutting down to make it last longer :) then I will have about a month with none but thats ok cos I will clean out my system ready for the latest Royal-Haze trials :) :) :) cant wait !! - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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I am experimenting with running both the 2x 125W CFL side lights (18/6) along with the 250W MH (18/6) and also the 20W UV-B (2/22), [On for 2 hours mid-cycle of the other lamps 18/6]. If temps allow it.. I will stay with this configuration through-out the Veg Cycle, I have the AC running too so I hope when I check in on them in a couple of hours the temps aren't too much higher than 26oC :) !!

I don't think the 2 hours the UV-B will be on for will do much for the plant at this stage but I am hoping this small period for which the lamp is on will get the plant/s used to the new light spectrum so there's no shock or disturbance when I up the UV-B's on time :) ?!!

If the temps ARE too high to run both CFL's I may run just the one and the UV-B along side.. Or I may install the smaller watt CFLs I talked about,.. Oh... the smaller CFL's are 30W each not 50W like I had thought... but its still extra side lighting as far as I am concerned and at a much lesser heat :)

I also need more CANNA RHYZOTONIC but I'll figure out whats more important when I get to the store, More pics coming soon :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

cannawizard

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I am experimenting with running both the 2x 125W CFL side lights (18/6) along with the 250W MH (18/6) and also the 20W UV-B (2/22), [On for 2 hours mid-cycle of the other lamps 18/6]. If temps allow it.. I will stay with this configuration through-out the Veg Cycle, I have the AC running too so I hope when I check in on them in a couple of hours the temps aren't too much higher than 26oC :) !!

I don't think the 2 hours the UV-B will be on for will do much for the plant at this stage but I am hoping this small period for which the lamp is on will get the plant/s used to the new light spectrum so there's no shock or disturbance when I up the UV-B's on time :) ?!!

If the temps ARE too high to run both CFL's I may run just the one and the UV-B along side.. Or I may install the smaller watt CFLs I talked about,.. Oh... the smaller CFL's are 30W each not 50W like I had thought... but its still extra side lighting as far as I am concerned and at a much lesser heat :)

I also need more CANNA RHYZOTONIC but I'll figure out whats more important when I get to the store, More pics coming soon :) - STELTHY :leaf:
*pics please :)
 

stelthy

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I've just been shopping :) .. I got 2x T2 Bayonet normal lamp sockets.. 2x 30W CFL side lights (low-watt/ 30w = 117w) some 2-core cable a fused plug, ... I took back the large CFL Hanger to the grow store and exhanged it for a 1L Canna RHYZOTONIC and the bloke gave me some Canna BOOST.. on tick until next week, RESULT !! :) :) :)





He also knocked me up 1/4 L of Dutch Master's - Liquid Light, and Saturator mixed which apparently strengthens the formula to steroid kind of strength :)
I've heard some good things about this product and look forward to seeing its performance.. I think I have to spray the plants 4 hrs after lights on !!! then the 'Saturator' loosens up the leaf and allows the 'Liquid Light' to get in and do its thing (Speed up the Photosyntheses & Metabolism and allows the plant to except more Lumens..)

Liquid Light & Penetrator ; Opens the stomata on your plant leafs surfaces, thus allowing more light to penetrate. So even if you cut the stretch out, your plant as a whole is getting more lumens then if you didnt use it. If you get a chance ask your hydro guy for samples. they send them out periodicly. And they do as a pair, so you'll get the Penetrator as well as the Liquid Light, if they have some. Yeah It will increase your yeild to put it plainly. More lumens = denser flowering and clusters.


I'll add some more pics once I have installed the 2x new mini CFL side lights - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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I've just woken up and had my FINAL DOOB .. until the Royal Haze is ready, ,,, I canned my Final Q with some mates last night n didnt realise it was going so quickly lol, oh well ! So I am going to start today by installing the mini CFL's, pics coming soon :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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mornin stealthy mate..hows things..
Hi dude, good thanks ... a little Hazy, or should I say 'Sharkey' lol. I am pretty high even now.. I just had my wake n bake.. and its my last one until Harvest :( ... anyway I've been busy this morning and have installed my 2 new mini CFL lamps, see pics below ;-


Its kinda hard to see them in this pic..But you can see the white cables lol..



Here's the Right 30/118W mini CFL..



And here's the Left 30/118W mini CFL, behind the 125W CFL



This pic show's just the rear mini CFL's and the 250W MH


** Now I should be able to control the temp even better.. and still keep a Full-Spectrum going :) !! I decided to do another little experiment, I figured that since I have that sample of Liquid Light I may as well use it this morning and turn all the lights on minus the UV-B (not changing the 2hr period) its on for!



I cleaned out my water spray bottle.. and filled it with the LIQUID LIGHT sample..




Above is a couple of pics just after she's been sprayed with the L.L Solution.. as far as results go only time will tell! - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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SHOPPING LIST :-

:leaf: 125W 6500K Blue Spec CFL

:leaf: 2x 30/118W 6500K Blue Spec CFL's

:leaf: Kessil H150W Red Spec LED

:leaf: Possibly both bottles of Liquid Light Solution (dependant on resuLts)


I'll probably think of a few more things throughout the day too..But for now I am going to do another Res change...My Girls are thirsty :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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I've just bought 2x 30W 6400K Blue Spec CFL's with a bayonet fitting.. I could have gone for a screw fitting and upped the wattage of the Mini CFL to 45W.. I may still do this in the future but for now I am happy with what I have :) :) :) I just need to get my hands on a 125W 6400K Envirolite CFL and eventually a H150W Kessil Red Spec..

That will be all my lighting needs taken care of.. - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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I just looked on Kessil's web-site and they have a new LED thats better than the H150W Red Version :-



H350 SPECTRAL HALO LED Grow Light

The next level of LED lighting is here. Kessil presents H350 SPECTRAL HALO™ LED grow light, boasting 2.5x the light output of H150. By incorporating the latest 90W Dense Matrix LED™ platform, H350 produces an extremely bright, penetrating stream of light that reaches deep into the canopy of the plant.

H350 also features a new vapor cooling thermal management system that directs heat away from the high-intensity LED core quickly, maintaining the light’s efficiency and long lifetime. This high-powered device will allow LED grow lights to viably replace traditional methods of lighting.





Vegetative Emphasis, Special Penta-band Recipe


The DEEP PURPLE model features a greater blue to red wavelength ratio to encourage stronger vegetative growth for fuller, healthier plants. Using five different types of LED chips with a strong emphasis on blue wavelengths, this penta-band recipe is designed to keep plants strong.







Flowering Emphasis, Unique Quad-band Formula


With a much higher ratio in the red spectrum than the blue, the MAGENTA model focuses on performance during the bloom phase. This unique quad-band spectrum blends four different types of LED chips together and is ideal for the flowering stages of growth.




General Specifications



:leaf: LED 90W DEX 5000 LED

:leaf: Fixture Dimensions 3.8” x 4” (Length x Diameter)

:leaf: Height from Plant 12 to 24 inches

:leaf: Coverage Area 2-3 feet diameter

:leaf: Power Supply 100-240V AC (Input), 48V or 54V DC (Output)

:leaf: Power Usage 84W (90W Max)




Light Intensity Chart










Depending on the difference in price... this maybe an option :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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sounds nice that stelthy u getting one...
Well I was going to get the H150W... but its $299.00..... then I've just seen the one above (H350 Spectral Halo) and it looks even better and is only 60W more (total : 90W) However I have a feeling its going to carry a hefty price tag !!... and I need to find one with a UK plug too.. so I'll be keeping my eyes peeled :) :)

Once I have chosen and obtained the LED, that should complete my Full Spectrum lighting rig..




I am still on the lookout for a 400W HPS but with the Maximum Lumen output... in excess of 55,000 lumens if possible...any ideas ?? - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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