Stem size

myke

myke

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Looking at my plants their stems are small,use to hydro size.Whats the deal,are they telling me something ? Base mix,+ kelp alfalfa gaia. Top dressing ewc and gaia dry.
I have 5 different strains going all small.Even the ones vegged fo 2 months.

Edit too add these are clones that ive all grown in hydro before.
 
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Northwood

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Sorry buddy, it was just really hard reading past the first sentence. I was in hydro before organic no-till myself, and it does require a complete change in thinking. It was easier for me, because I already went through the organics thing with a farm my old girlfriend and I bought nearly 3 decades ago - but now long gone. lol

Your thin stems are definitely a sign of something wrong. Is this the identical tent and lighting setup you used for hydro? And why can I see your bare soil? That's like an open wound in nature. Cover that shit up.
 
myke

myke

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Ok so yes. It’s saying something. These plants started with a gnat issue. Added about an inch of play sand on top about 2 months ago. Killed almost every gnat in about 2 weeks. Since then I move the sand to the side top dress ewc+ Gaia water in then recover with sand.
 
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Northwood

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Frankly Dankly said:
My girls in organic soil have trunks, not stems, twice the width of my thumb...and I have thick thumbs. It’s not a growing in soil issue.
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The stem of mine has a width of my wrist lol. But it's a plant I've vegged like... how long? Oh yeah, nearly forever. haha

More than 3 and a half months for my stem to get that big. So I was cheating a little there! LMAO But in my Pink Lemonade thread even on page 1 shows the thickness of the main stem in early growth. It's nothing to do with hydro versus organic, so let's just make that clear right now, shall we?
 
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Frankly Dankly

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Northwood said:
The stem of mine has a width of my wrist lol. But it's a plant I've vegged like... how long? Oh yeah, nearly forever. haha

More than 3 and a half months for my stem to get that big. So I was cheating a little there! LMAO But in my Pink Lemonade thread even on page 1 shows the thickness of the main stem in early growth. It's nothing to do with hydro versus organic, so let's just make that clear right now, shall we?
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3 1/2 month veg?!? It must be a monster.
 
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Northwood

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myke said:
I’m not sure what you mean. I thought I was pretty clear. I’m use to large stems. First organic grow maybe I should have added?
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No you weren't so clear, but it's okay now that I know what you mean. lol

TBH, when I left hydro myself I went straight to organic no-till. And in hydro I was growing some pretty good weed with what I thought at the time was amazing yields. That was the HPS days though more than 10 years ago. I've been experimenting with no-till every since.

I've only seen a huge increase in yields and potency over the years since switching, but that's likely a lot to do with strains and advances in breeding for greater THC production too. I literally grew my first plant in 1976 or 1977, so I'm not sure because I can't remember so well what it was like back then, except it got me busted by my parents before I could try some. hahaha
 
myke

myke

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Ok so I have the same strain as the pic in my veg room. I up potted sooner. Soil has more perlight and I’ve been watering less. The stem in veg is the same size as the pic but is younger by 2 months.
thinking back the one in flower(the pic) the stem hasn’t grow in diameter much at all since flip (45 days). There was also almost no stretch. Perhaps overwatering and having the gnat problem at the beginning of its life contributed to these skinny stems?
 
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Wastei

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myke said:
Ok so I have the same strain as the pic in my veg room. I up potted sooner. Soil has more perlight and I’ve been watering less. The stem in veg is the same size as the pic but is younger by 2 months.
thinking back the one in flower(the pic) the stem hasn’t grow in diameter much at all since flip (45 days). There was also almost no stretch. Perhaps overwatering and having the gnat problem at the beginning of its life contributed to these skinny stems?
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I think you're right. Roots probably suffered from the gnat infestation. You're currently running organics right? I've had some organic runs years back and I remember it being a little tricky.

I had great result altering nutrient feed and ewc teas throughout the grow. Remembering letting worm casting bubble in a sock with sugar, kelp and Humic acid.
 
Autodoctor

Autodoctor

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Northwood said:
Sorry buddy, it was just really hard reading past the first sentence. I was in hydro before organic no-till myself, and it does require a complete change in thinking. It was easier for me, because I already went through the organics thing with a farm my old girlfriend and I bought nearly 3 decades ago - but now long gone. lol

Your thin stems are definitely a sign of something wrong. Is this the identical tent and lighting setup you used for hydro? And why can I see your bare soil? That's like an open wound in nature. Cover that shit up.
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question I see his does look like swamp land but what would you recommend on covering up with. This is something I have been thinking about doing for a while
 
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Northwood

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Autodoctor said:
question I see his does look like swamp land but what would you recommend on covering up with. This is something I have been thinking about doing for a while
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I use about a 3" layer of chopped timothy hay I buy by the bale. It's cheap and local. Straw will also work too. I go with hay because it has a carbon:nitrogen ratio more favorable to breakdown by microorganisms so that it becomes my main "amendment" as well as a functional mulch. I just replenish it when it gets down to about an inch or so.
 
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