Still no independent review of the GeekBeast Pro???
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DrHill
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So I want to ask for help on a final verdict for a 4x4 grow lol
GeekBeast Pro? or Photontek 465?
Both are same price. ($799)
Current lights are 2x Viparspectra 300w Reflector series (Trash, I bought in 2016 before my first grow without knowing much)
My ultimate goal is to make an attempt to grow highest potency, dense buds, that look and smell like I know what the hell I am doing. lol
Not focused on huge yield necessarily, although I plan to use scrog method.
Working with 4 young Lemon Jellato plants (Dungeon Vault Genetics)
Growing in supersoil, 5gal fabric pots
In my environment, cooling is average.
Temps range 68-81 F.
Have not installed inline fan yet since plants are only about 8inches tall
Which one should I go with?? Photontek or GeekBeast?
I know many other factors and environment play a huge role in final harvest results; but everything starts with a great light. I just want to make the best choice
(was looking at Spider Farmer SF-4000 all summer; but these seem superior after researching all month)
GeekBeast Pro? or Photontek 465?
Both are same price. ($799)
Current lights are 2x Viparspectra 300w Reflector series (Trash, I bought in 2016 before my first grow without knowing much)
My ultimate goal is to make an attempt to grow highest potency, dense buds, that look and smell like I know what the hell I am doing. lol
Not focused on huge yield necessarily, although I plan to use scrog method.
Working with 4 young Lemon Jellato plants (Dungeon Vault Genetics)
Growing in supersoil, 5gal fabric pots
In my environment, cooling is average.
Temps range 68-81 F.
Have not installed inline fan yet since plants are only about 8inches tall
Which one should I go with?? Photontek or GeekBeast?
I know many other factors and environment play a huge role in final harvest results; but everything starts with a great light. I just want to make the best choice
(was looking at Spider Farmer SF-4000 all summer; but these seem superior after researching all month)
race winslow
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One is 630 watts the other is 465 watts.....same price.
DrHill
Well-Known Member
Lol So geekbeast..
race winslow
Well-Known Member
Good call....
DrHill
Well-Known Member
“Different LED grow lights will have different efficiencies. More efficient LED grow lights will use fewer watts to emit the same amount of light that a less efficient LED grow light will exude. Therefore, as mentioned above, wattage is not the most accurate tool to know how powerful of a grow light you need for a particular coverage area”
Figured the whole point of LED was efficiency. So why pull 600w from the wall and raise the light bill when you can get the same results with pulling 465w. Read on Migro’s website
Barristan Whitebeard
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You're comparing two lights with similar efficacies and form factors here, not bar lights and cheap blurple LEDs. Yes the Geekbeast light has a higher wattage draw than the 465 watt Photontek light. According to Migro's testing, it also has a significantly higher usable photon output. You just need to figure out which light will work better for your situation.
It's also worth mentioning that the Geekbeast has UVA and far red monos. I don't think Photontek has released their UV bars yet.
race winslow
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Yes, my thoughts exactly. I was just too lazy to expand my response.
That being said, many of these lights are using similar form factors and are made in China. Many have the same components and are just branded differently. Some may claim to be using "top shelf" diodes and drivers and doing so and others not so much.
I appreciate Sean's reviews and his general approach to things. I've been looking at his Aray lights and have been giving them serious consideration because he makes quality products. However, they apparently don't provide IR or UV spectrums.
The GeekBeast Pro is tempting because of IR and UV. However, I'm still having a hard time trusting that it's a quality product for the long term.
I own American Led's, COB's and HPS. They each have their benefits. On the surface, it seems that the GBP combines all of those benefits. I just may have to take the plunge and find out for myself.
DrHill
Well-Known Member
I understand you. I have come to find out that picking a light is much like selecting a car to buy. There is no one size fits all. Everyone has different situations which may mean different light preference. For example, you mentioned the Migro Aray, I have been considered that one also because of the simplistic, modern design and the fact that you can have the drivers outside of the tent. Which is great for me since keeping it cool in there is a task during the summer.
For my 4x4 light upgrade, I feel like I change my mind every 2-3 hours. Even considering getting an HLG-550 now lol. Especially since they are 15% off. But idk man, I just want to get a quality, efficient light that will give me exceptional results.
Also, I'm a bit of a novice grower; and you mentioned the the UV and IR spectrums. Exactly how do they provide benefit to your grow? and how substantial is the harvest difference with/without?
If you don't mind explaining
(...also I think Migro has a UVB supplemental light they sell for use with the Aray. Is this the same as you are talking about?)
race winslow
Well-Known Member
Here's a link that you may find helpful. While it's for another light company the discussion it provides on UV/IR is informative
The Importance of UV and Infrared Light for Growing – Platinum LED
platinumgrowlights.com
Also, I've had lights with supplemental UV. My own feeling is that I want it integrated into the light. Outboard fixtures are a bit of a pain in configuring for even coverage.
Keesje
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On the website the numbers seem to be correct (not sure if the par numbers are correct)
But as I am interested in perhaps buying some led in the future, I am interested in a good comparison.
In what way do you think the result of the tests are not correct?
$licc Ricc
Active Member
If you don't think they're correct then go drop your money on something you think is worth it. Noone here is going to spend your money. do t take this the wrong way but nut up or shit up. Mistakes on a minor acct filling out charts happen...however Shane is more than reputable in the industry so if you think they're skewed that's all on you
$licc Ricc
Active Member
Again don't take this the wrong way but perhaps you need to do more research on what fits for you.. I took a chance on geekbeast and it worked out big time. The light is undeniable when the proof is in the pudding
Keesje
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Lighten up!
I just asked @hybridway2 ( a very respected member) a question.
This is a forum.
If you are happy with it... good for you.
But if I want to know more, there is nothing wrong with that either, I think.
I just asked @hybridway2 ( a very respected member) a question.
This is a forum.
If you are happy with it... good for you.
But if I want to know more, there is nothing wrong with that either, I think.
$licc Ricc
Active Member
You specifically said you were unsure of the credibility of the tests done this far...which was the core of my reply. You can ask as much as you want but nothing answers questions better than getting it done yourself.
Stoned Whale
Active Member
Wow that chart really makes the geekbeast sound amazing.
And Migros calculations on cost / usable light only go down to 400nm if I’m reading it right and the geek beast has some UV under 400nm.
I may just jump on two of these for a 1.4mx 2.6m space. Bit bigger than the 4x4s but it sounds like it’s a bit too much for 4x4 anyway.
Two things would make it perfect. Little deeper into the UV spectrum for UVB, a EU supplier (USA aswell) for warranty issues.
edit; Also did I read there is no fixings for the driver unit to be fixed on top? I guess most people are running them outside their rooms. Here in UK I want a little heat! Lol
And Migros calculations on cost / usable light only go down to 400nm if I’m reading it right and the geek beast has some UV under 400nm.
I may just jump on two of these for a 1.4mx 2.6m space. Bit bigger than the 4x4s but it sounds like it’s a bit too much for 4x4 anyway.
Two things would make it perfect. Little deeper into the UV spectrum for UVB, a EU supplier (USA aswell) for warranty issues.
edit; Also did I read there is no fixings for the driver unit to be fixed on top? I guess most people are running them outside their rooms. Here in UK I want a little heat! Lol
$licc Ricc
Active Member
It's pretty stable on the fixture itself I had mine on it during veg and pulled it outside the tent during flower
Keesje
Well-Known Member
The tests may be credible. I have no idea because all of that is a bit too difficult for me.
I was just saying that I was hoping Shane will take testing more seriously then he is with writing down the results in a chart, because some things were (and still are) wrong there.
Several people have also reported to him that some numbers are incorrect.
But he just leaves them there, incorrect.
So then you can at least say that he is not always very careful.
That's all.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Honestly I did not look bud. Just seeing it all the time. Using Specs from my own lights as a base line. Many #'s do not line up. Often its the PPF vs the efficiency & watts that seam fishy.
I do like how companies using Beyond Normalized Par are providing a ppfd (400-700) & a pbfd (includes everything or at least 380-780). Not sure if Geek did that. There's quite a few lower budget boards with the 390+730nm now.