Endur0xX
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I dont think you can compare the 2, I am sure they would yield similar but the 400W won't give you dense nugs, the AF will.
Testing Hans panel: 56watt Cree xp-e/ Lumiled rebel power==== Let's talk efficiency
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Eraserhead
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I think it is hard to compare HID to LED, and comparisons that are made, are vague at best. I never cared for LED = HID comparisons.
I think where Fero came up with 400w HID comparison, my test growers initial testings of that spectrum/ratio/intensity per watt per color, from 173w, we pulled 4-7oz per light from multiple strains. And the average grow from a 400w HID is 1/4-1/2LB, but it is also possible to get a full LB from a 400w HID. There is no way in hell this 173w light will ever pull a full LB. And I also believe the average grower will not be getting 7oz without a little practice first, and also high yielding genetics.
I think where Fero came up with 400w HID comparison, my test growers initial testings of that spectrum/ratio/intensity per watt per color, from 173w, we pulled 4-7oz per light from multiple strains. And the average grow from a 400w HID is 1/4-1/2LB, but it is also possible to get a full LB from a 400w HID. There is no way in hell this 173w light will ever pull a full LB. And I also believe the average grower will not be getting 7oz without a little practice first, and also high yielding genetics.
Amaximus
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No, No, No. Chop #2 first! Make #1 watch!strangling #1 lol.......she's gonna get chopped first no doubt........56watt and blahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
You know I'm an LED fanboi but I have to ask why you think a 400w wouldn't yield dense nuggets? There are many, many grow journals with dense nugs from a 400w. I thought it was the LED guys (us!) that were supposed to be defending the led panels against "flarf" accusations! hehe.
Endur0xX
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In my opinion, the average grower will get loose fluffy buds with 1 x 400W. Nothing wrong with that in a way it looks like you got more than you got. It makes for nice bags. 600W-1000W is where its at for dense nugs with HIDs.
And I am not saying you cant get dense nugs with 400W!!
Amaximus
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I was only asking because 85% of my growing experience is with led's and normally we are the guys defending the panels against fluffy/flarf nugget claims. Not the other way around. heh.
PSUAGRO.
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I agree with this..........two different techs, both have their pros/cons, no need to have "equivalent to ???" bullshit..........I never got 1gpw+ with HID and when we converted to CMH bulbs are yields went down slightly but quality went way up IMO(same strains)......Takes a very special grower/plants to get 450+grams from a 400w hid and 7ounces from 173w is equally impressive..........get those pics up of your led panel ASAP
I'd like to see this..............love me some comp grows
Hmmm good idea..............twisted, i like.............
If I recall you did rather well under HIDs/lurked it, solid grows brother.................
It will be a night and day difference.................not even close
We are almost there...........didn't go 100 days for just a test(which it no longer is) and weak ass "auto" smokeLoL... just chop them both and get it over with...LoL. Let's get the next grow going, I'm ready to get christmas cheer growin.
DAY 98 from germ........1&2
........still going and waiting on these small bichty buds to finish.........humidity is really high due to all the rain we got here for the last couple of days/ watching them very closely for rot..............that's itEdit:.....forgot the usual........56watts phase/10-14/59th day of flower and be safe/happy growing
PSUAGRO.
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you saw a big difference???? i never did.........well why not/ it can't hurt to try this again........anything to make the shit stronger lol.......thanks brother
Chronikool
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Ahhh yes...Dawg's aggressive encouragement...it just wouldnt be a thread without it! 
PSUAGRO.
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clippers ready friend............
Alright Dawg................it's about that time
I agree.....Ahhh yes...Dawg's aggressive encouragement...it just wouldnt be a thread without it!
lol..........still wouldn't wanna fuck with his big ass knife
DAY 99 from germ..........1&2
......well my shitty auto's and grower relationship has come to an end......scoped and #2 is still under 40% amber!, fuck it at lights off ill give them 3 days of darkness and chop them/no point continuing my stress......gives me just enough time to trim them and get a final dry weight before my vaca............that's it
....56watts/59th and final day of flower...................Thanks for everyone's help!, couldn't have finished this without the great advice I got. Wouldn't trade the helpful/friendly led crew here for any other forum/ much love RIU.........will take some pics of the chop/trim in three days. Be safe and happy growingFinally Psuagro, can't wait to see your next grow.
I hope it's ok I keep this thread alive until my grow is done.
This is update 8, I chopped one girl after these pics due to mold issues.
I still see spidermites but no webs. I think I'll pull through. Will chop them soon, starting wednesday.
I'm gonna make some changes before my next round...
I hope it's ok I keep this thread alive until my grow is done.
This is update 8, I chopped one girl after these pics due to mold issues.
I still see spidermites but no webs. I think I'll pull through. Will chop them soon, starting wednesday.
I'm gonna make some changes before my next round...
PSUAGRO.
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Ok Brother Psuagro Where's The Harvest Photo's.
THREE days of darkness will be tomorrow at 3pm.............that's when ill chop the bitches...........patience brothers