Thc Garden

youngdog

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ok. i will just use the plastic pots. some of my seedlings are falling over. i have a small fan blowing at them on low and i have the light 16 inches from them. any ideas on how to get them standing up and stop the streching?
 

Jozikins

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What type of light is it? Floro? If it's floros just put it about 6" above the seedling and it will be fine. The fan helps, and spraying with plain water helps. Plain water will make them heavy and when they sway back and forth it creates more scarring and thicker stalks. When you transplant, transplant the seedlings deep enough to bury the excess stretch you don't want. The stalk will grow roots out of it once it is buried, so don't worry about rot unless foliage is covered by dirt, be careful to remove any foliage that could end up under the soil line, this is usually more of a concern with clones though.
 

youngdog

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well these are in my table and are in root riot sponges. its a 600w mh light. I will try spraying them with plain water to see if that brings them up. Its only the three white rhinos that are doing this the others are fine.
btw im transplanting atm 6 down 3 to go. this is a bitch. im covered in soil and the bale of sunshine mix was way to much i havnt even used half of it. o well it can be spare soil for next time.
 

Jozikins

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Aghhh, it's because we were doing math based around 7 gal pots! But like you said, this is stress saved for next time.

Put the 3 white rhinos on top of an upside down 1 gal pot. Or whatever you can do to get then a few inches closer.

And yes, transplanting is a huge bitch! The other day I transplanted 14 plants after having the pots filled and sitting in my garage for a few days. Took me fucking hours. The worst part was realizing my veg room was half the size it should have been. But after adding a few shelves I was fine. Not my favorite thing to do at midnight though. I thought I had the pots presoaking the entire time but I guess I didn't. Presoaking is important, but if it creates a problem for you, you do not have to do a 48 hour presoak. This last time I soaked them waited 30 minutes at the very most, and then transplanted. We do this so we don't get sink holes in our dirt that could rip up roots as it erodes whenever watering.

But yeah, I am about to go back to hydro because I am so sick of all the dirt. When you aren't transplanting though, growing in dirt is real easy.
 

youngdog

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oh yeah dirt is alright this is my first dirt grow and im not disliking it. i just did the last three and im tellin ya a few of those plants had a smell to them that made my nose tingle. real strong. im feeling better about geting these into bigger pots and that smell is also making me happy o well.
 

Jozikins

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Bigger pots are a good thing. How is that fruity autoflower doing? I think I might germinate mine today.
 

youngdog

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Im not sure about how much longer I should have wrote down when this thing was started Im thinking its going on 5 or 6 weeks. either way it is great. Im really impressed by both that plant and this aerogarden. I mean i had to add my own cfls because the lights that came with it didnt go tall enough or produce enough light for what i wanted but other than that its nice. Ima loads some photos in a sec of the new pots and that and ill get one of the seedlings in the table.
 

youngdog

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there everything is that im doing. also when i transplanted i cleaned up around the base of the plant where there was lots of dead leafs and dying leafs. hope that doesnt add extra stress. Ive heard fem seeds can herm easy if they get stressed to much. I am going to wait 2 days then flower if everything looks good. so far so good just got done watering and they all look great. other than I lost track of my feeding and i think i gave them straight water for a week and a half and they got this light green/ yellowing going on all the new growth. but thatll straighten out when i feed them again.
 

Jozikins

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Always keep a keen eye for dead and dying leaves, you should be sure to pick leaves that are 70% yellow or more. It wont stress your plant at all, if anything you lightened it's load, they were nothing but a burden to the plant. Old foliage can attract spider mites and fungus (mildew). The seedlings are definitely too far away from the light, I would go ahead and move them all inward about 6". Right now you are in danger of running out of space around the walls of your grow tent. You want to make sure there isn't any wasted light in the center when your plants are matured, that is where the very best light is. If you waste some space on the outside of your light footprint it is no big deal, that is the weaker bit of light anyways.

Fem seeds can herm, but it requires a good bit of stress and it all depends on the stability of the plants used. Just don't do excessive pruning, if you need to clean them up real good, do it over a course of a 3-4 days, or even a week. Be sure that they stay on the same light's on time when you switch to 12/12, big gaps between lights-on from veg to flower can stress plants. Be sure your timers are in a safe location and have either a battery back up or are digital, because if your power goes out, they get set off whack, and you have to remember to correct them or else your plants suffer. Stay away from strong pesticides that could leave a waxy residue or cause malformed leaves, like Safers Soap.
 

youngdog

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ok i moved the light to 6 inches. I hopfully wont be using any pestacides or any sprays. never know but i am being carfull to keep things real clean and always clean my self befor coming in. all of my lights are on the same on/off cycle. things are looking good so far with the trasplant maybe i could start flowering them tomorrow if all is good in the morning. these suckers are gonna get to huge for my tent if i let them grow any taller.
 

Jozikins

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OH NO! I didn't mean move your light down to 6"!!! You'll fry them!!!!

I said move your seedlings inward towards the center of your flood and drain table 6" or more.

Move your light AT LEAST 28" away from seedlings. 28" is where you start, and you move it down inch by inch if they show signs that they want more light. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I said "Move them inward" instead of "Move the seedlings inward." Just having all the plants closer under the most intense light (rather than having the light closer to the seedlings) will do just fine until you see more signs of stretching, then you slowly lower you lamp 1-2" at a time, as the lamp get's lower, you go from lowering it 2" to 1" a day.

If your seedlings have any roots in the clay pebbles, or if you fear there may be, I would go through the trouble of removing the clay pebbles one or two at a time. Do not lift it straight up, their may still be a large tap digging down, so be sure to clear the pebbles out from under it, then check under it before lifting it up.

You don't have to do that, but I recommend it. You have so much light going to waste, and you don't want plants hanging outside of your light footprint, continuing the wasting of the light.
 

youngdog

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ok i moved it up at least 2 ft and moved the seedlings in toward the center the roots are in the 4 inch blocks but not out the bottom yet. soon they will be thou since these all seem to have strong roots going. im just now noticing that the other day i rewired a few things and it threw my timers off by 45 minuites. hadnt noticed anything till tonight the ones i transplanted seem to be drooping a lil bit. prolly a lil shock from the transplant. not much i can do about the timers now since its been a week hopefully this dont stress them into herming.
 

Jozikins

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If it was 45 minutes it shouldn't be a big deal. Under ideal circumstances, when we want to move the time forward or back, we only do it by 15 minutes a week. They could also droop from the heat of the HPS. I'm glad you raised it up in time. I'm super bummed out, I just found a major aphid infestation in my garden, I had mistaken them for muddy thumb prints on my fan leaves, as I constantly aerate the soil with my fingers, as well as inspect the plants for mold, and I spread the nugs apart by the fan leaves so sometimes I leave perlite and peat on the leaves. Upon closer inspection, they are aphids, but here in the mountains they are a reddish brown, not the usual green ones I am used to seeing in the valley where I used to live.

I am only a few days from harvest so I immediately shut down everything in the grow room and let off a Doctor Doom fogger. I don't have time to wait for light's out, I'll be back in there at 2am to turn the lights back on until the scheduled shut off at 6am. They shouldn't stress to hard, my genetics are pretty solid. It's a good thing I decided to admire the new purple colors on my SC99, or I may not have noticed they were bugs tonight. Stupid mistake not looking closer when I first noticed them.
 

youngdog

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damn that sucks you should be ok. hopfully that bomb dosent leave and pestacides on your buds that you might inhale. I think youll be ok thou since your not spraying them directly. check this thing out let me know what you think it is.

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Its where the pistil is the bases are all smelling up. I tore off 2 last night and opened them up and they have little round hard things almost like baby seeds. any ideas?

o yeah put my soiless tent on 12/12 today as they all where perked up and happy looking. should i swap bulbs tonight or should i wait a few days?
 

youngdog

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after doing some research i am thinking thats not a hermie just a female. but im going to keep an eye on it.
 

Jozikins

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LOL! Yeah you silly nut, those are female preflowers. Don't rip anymore off, those eventually develop into buds. However, I always remove all flowering sites that are too close to the stalk around week 1 or 2 of flowering, to prevent mold. I wait until flowering to make sure if the flower sites will be a problem. The plants don't mind too much. What they do mind is when you pull of 9 grams of wet nugs when they are only 3 or 4 days from harvest. Like I had to do on my SC99, little fucking bugs caused mold where my nugs were most compacted together. I should have trimmed it better before harvest. Bummer. But the fogger wont leave anything behind, it is pretty gentle on everything but bugs. Doctor Doom is my preferred way of getting rid of a disaster.
 

youngdog

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that sucks. Im gonna keep that in mind about the doctor doom in case i get bugs. seems to be common for soil growers to get them. what is the sc99 Ive heard of c99 just not the other. at least you are 3-4 days not 3-4 weeks. lol yeah i knew they was female preflowers i just never seen the fat base with the little hard ball inside.
 

Jozikins

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Sorry, I thought I already told your about the SC99, it is a Strawberry Cough/C99 hybrid from a breeder here on the mountain, it doesn't have a real name but SC99 is the easiest way to describe it, so that has become its name I suppose. Lol.

Doctor Doom is good stuff dude. How are your bitches?
 

youngdog

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that sounds good. my bitches are doing good. I just changed out the water on that aerogarden and ended up adding some magi-cal to it due to some yellowing of the lower leafs. that is my autoflowering plant. that girl is starting to fill out. It kinda plateau'd for a week with no new growth now it seems to be growing again. The ones in the soiless are doing great they have some noticable streching going on but im attributing that to the lighting schedule change. and the seedlings are standing up now all but one and he is moving more up everyday. so thats whats going on with the bitches. Im geting anxious for the fruit auto to be done im kinda interested in seeing how the buds are gonna be seeing as they are under cfls.
 
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