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Azgrow

Azgrow

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aye that is correct about the water....but its only half the equation when dealing with hempy buckets..the other half is the medium an the amount of air thats trapped in there...this is why systems suchs as aero ponics an dwc have such great fast growth as there is an amped uped amount of o2 in the water as well as the medium this goes for all hydro an soilless mediums....soil just doesnt have the o2 content the other mediums do...an using perlite coco or vermaculite is extremly effecint at bringing o2 to the roots via the medium itself...hoppefully lumberjacks an my post helpclear up some of the o2 at root level questions....peace az
 
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ronin101

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hey i have a question...can you use HB and flower in a stadium setup? Like a perlite/vermiculite mix and then just flower straight from clone in a stadium?
 
jc83

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I havnt got an airpump so would i be better just using water straight from the tap? My water report says on average there is 27 mg/Litre of chloride in my water, im not sure if this is high or low. Ive been letting it sit in a bucket for a day or two before i use it to get rid of the chloride in the water.


lumberjack_ian said:
tbh, thats wrong...
the holes are just there to provide drainage at the right level for runnoff to prevent overwateringyour plants...
the oxygen get to the roots from the water... the "dissolved oxygen" in the water (DO)... the more DO, the better/faster the root growth you'll get... thats why its a good idea to keep an air stone in any rez's of water and/or nutes you keep stored around... DO is high straight from the tap but only hours later quickly reduces to much less efficient amounts...

thats the reason why hydroponics works so much faster and more productive than soil grows... they're able to provide more DO to the root systems... soil pots stay damp normally for a few days on end... watering generally is only done a couple times a week, which means that the water in the root system is not nearly as good the 2nd or 3rd day soaking as it was the first... with hydro you're getting fresh water (fresh water means oxygenated water) usually daily if not multiple times a day...

plus nutes can generally be better controlled and dialed in in a hydro grow than in soil grows...

anyways... back to the hempy buckets... they are basically manual flood systems, flooding generally everyday/every other day...

the holes on the side are not bringing oxygen to the roots..

... and please, i hope this doesn't come off as mean or snobbish or anything, i just want to make sure the correct info is handed out...
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Azgrow

Azgrow

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another way to add o2 to water if no pump is around is to pour your water from one container to another back an forth a few times...the agitation of the water increases its o2 content...so with i still recomend using r/o over tap...but if tap is to be used it must be....this will work with any water its best to pour it like a waterfall where its just splashing down on the bottem....dont be gentle an do over a sink....peace az
 
GoodFriend

GoodFriend

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jc83 said:
I havnt got an airpump so would i be better just using water straight from the tap? My water report says on average there is 27 mg/Litre of chloride in my water, im not sure if this is high or low. Ive been letting it sit in a bucket for a day or two before i use it to get rid of the chloride in the water.
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unless your using some kind of organic nutes with beneficial bacteria, chlorine isn't really going to be a problem for you... but yeah... the water just needs a lot of agitation and the DO levels will rise...
 
cirrus12

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Azgrow said:
hey special do me a favor an try this an tell me what ya think ina couple weeks....you must use r/o water for this to work correctly....you do have nute burn...flush your plants today an water normal for a week....next week start the nutes but use 5mlmicro 10ml bloom no grow....none....mix the micro first then the bloom...feed this solution lightly 2x a week....this will not only keep your plants from going defecint it keeps the ph at the excat level you want.....peace az
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Az, you said to use the Lucas Formula, is this what you were talking about?
 
Azgrow

Azgrow

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aye....thats the veg formula gh 3part nutes no grow
5ml micro 10ml bloom for veg
8ml micro 16ml bloom for flower....use r/o an mix micro first......peace az
 
Florida Girl

Florida Girl

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I've got 3 White Widows started in Hempy Style containers (LOVING THIS METHOD SO FAR!!) Plants are 17 days old from seed and just starting the transition from seedling into Veg. The containers are 1 QRT. containers with 2 holes (on opposite sides of container) about an inch from bottom. Containers have bottom half Hydrotron pebbles, top half Coco Coir.



Question.....

I just saw a root that has grown right past the drain hole... it's not coming out of the hole... but it's right there none the less. So obviously this root is now exposed to LIGHT. What do I do??? Is it time to transplant to a bigger container? Do I not worry about the root being exposed to light?

Pictures of my wandering root..... :D

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HELP!!!
 
GoodFriend

GoodFriend

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calm down... its one little tiny root...

if there were multiple roots poking out and thusly dying... i'd worry...

its one beautiful white healthy root.... be happy your plants doing well!
 
Florida Girl

Florida Girl

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lumberjack_ian said:
calm down... its one little tiny root...

if there were multiple roots poking out and thusly dying... i'd worry...

its one beautiful white healthy root.... be happy your plants doing well!
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LOL... well I'm not in a panic (guess I shouldn't have used the large HELP with exclamation points). I guess I'm just worried about the light producing slime or algae that could grow / move to the rest of the root system.

So I'll just leave it be and not worry about moving it to a bigger container until it's a bit bigger right?

Also, since I'm a noob ... and don't want to fuck up a transplant (esp. since I'm using Coco) I'm planning on doing the method where I just cut away the bottom..... so will I damage my baby if I accidentally cut a few roots when cutting the container (since the roots seem to be going to the outside)?

Thanks for your help... and sorry if this is a stupid or repeat question :D
 
Barrelhse

Barrelhse

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Hi, FG-
I usually start my seeds in "hempy cups" and move them to a final container after the roots are well established. Sometimes I cut off the bottom, and sometimes I slit open the whole cup. Occasionally I nip off a bit of root but it seems to have little effect on the plant.
I hope things go well for you; I'm relatively new to Hempy and I'm really happy so far.
 
Azgrow

Azgrow

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if you can you can use something to slightly move that root out of the way the hole is....an yes boging a plant is imo a better way to transplant as it gives you extra space as well as its less annoying to the plants....peace az
 
skatterman420

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maybe i'm high and missed it, so will all the excess water be used by the plants or does the "bucket" need to have its watcher removed? and if i wanted to use an airpump in there, i'd just use one big ass tub for all my plants with the pots in there? Sorry I've Always Been Dumbfounded By Hydro.. I Am A Simple Man.. Heh
 
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bigd921

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skatterman420 said:
maybe i'm high and missed it, so will all the excess water be used by the plants or does the "bucket" need to have its watcher removed? and if i wanted to use an airpump in there, i'd just use one big ass tub for all my plants with the pots in there? Sorry I've Always Been Dumbfounded By Hydro.. I Am A Simple Man.. Heh
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no air pumps you have too remember the bucket is going to be filled with perlite or your medium of choice so an air pump would not be very effective, the plants will use what is in the res the hole on the side is so you dont overwater.... trust me once you can wrap your mind around the simplicity of this you will see that its perfect for a "simple man"......:joint: IMHO the hardest part about hempy buckets is understanding and accepting how simple it is......
 
Barrelhse

Barrelhse

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I frequently tip the buckets and pour the res. water out the hole, after having it topped off for a day or two. "Wet feet" seems to become an issue sometimes, esp. if there is Vermiculite in the mix. I now use plain Perlite and I'm impressed with the results. The only touchy part of the whole grow is getting the roots to find the bottom without over-watering or dehydrating the plant. Fortunately the roots grow very quickly so this period doesn't last long. Once the roots find the res, these bitches are off like a prom dress.
 
skatterman420

skatterman420

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jordann9e said:
where's snugbrim?? lol sorry haha...
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i left him @ home in his cage :), and bigD, it seems too simple, i don't like it hahaha :wall: this just goes against everything i've learned, wouldn't the roots below the hole get root rot? i think that was my major question

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k i think i get it now haha i reread all the posts on this page like 5 times
 
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