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the properties inside the ph down will used continually cause ionic bonds to potassium an making harder for the plants to uptake....when mixing you mix the micro first then bloom after about 30min to an hour you'll see the mix has settled around 5.7-5.9....az

BabyGreeen said:

Cool no problem, i will maybe invest in some grow, i am just about to plant my seedlings in 16oz cups. Do i start of using full strength lucas formula 0-5-10 on my seedlings or do i cut it down a bit?
Thanks again

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You want to use a 1/8 to 1/4 strength mix for seelings.

Just to put it in perspective, alot of growers say not to feed seedlings anything untill about day 7-10.

I however have never had problems feeding a 1/8th stength fert from the get go.

Azgrow said:

the properties inside the ph down will used continually cause ionic bonds to potassium an making harder for the plants to uptake....when mixing you mix the micro first then bloom after about 30min to an hour you'll see the mix has settled around 5.7-5.9....az

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no shit!
thats crazy i would have never guessed it would work like that, thanks, sorry to keep hounding you with question after question, seems like the more i ask in 1 post the harder it is to get em all answered but i understand why, one last thing about this ph stuff sorry, once i let it settle and assuming it is what it should be like u say, then i just leave it? no need to up it? its just cause i know cal mag and p all get absorbed a little better at like 6.5-7 so shouldnt i aim to have it in those ranges while its showing deficiencys in those things? i know going too high for too long wont be good for the lesser nutes it needs like boron and all that crap which come in at like 5-5.5, i guess thats why youre telling me to just leave it near 6 and it's like the happy medium for everything.. even if theyre deficient? and hopefully im done bugging u for a bit and they heal up quick , thanks again dude

collieBudz said:

no shit!
thats crazy i would have never guessed it would work like that, thanks, sorry to keep hounding you with question after question, seems like the more i ask in 1 post the harder it is to get em all answered but i understand why, one last thing about this ph stuff sorry, once i let it settle and assuming it is what it should be like u say, then i just leave it? no need to up it? its just cause i know cal mag and p all get absorbed a little better at like 6.5-7 so shouldnt i aim to have it in those ranges while its showing deficiencys in those things? i know going too high for too long wont be good for the lesser nutes it needs like boron and all that crap which come in at like 5-5.5, i guess thats why youre telling me to just leave it near 6 and it's like the happy medium for everything.. even if theyre deficient? and hopefully im done bugging u for a bit and they heal up quick , thanks again dude

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I have found that all of you PH nighmares can be alleviated by simply doing the following

Let plain water sit and stabilize for 24 hours so that all the chlorine and bullshit can evaporate and allow your PH to stabilize. Once you have done this, add your GH micro and let sit for at least 30 minutes. (not because any chemical bond is taking place, but just so the micro can evenly be dispresed in the water. Then add your bloom and grow. Ph your water accordingly, (ph of 6.0 for soiless media, and 5.5 -5.8 for hempy.

depending on your local water and if its treated with chlorine or chloramine it will never reach a desirable ph and often will have a ph of over 7.8 and a ppm of 200 to 350ppm. so if you have tap with similar parameters the only real solution is another water source such as ro or distilled. this is one of the best things to do for your plants. even with use of ph down there will be ph rebound if you have many buffers in your tap which most do. save yourself the trouble and use a more pure water source you wil not be dissapointed peace.

depending on your local water and if its treated with chlorine or chloramine it will never reach a desirable ph and often will have a ph of over 7.8 and a ppm of 200 to 350ppm. so if you have tap with similar parameters the only real solution is another water source such as ro or distilled. this is one of the best things to do for your plants. even with use of ph down there will be ph rebound if you have many buffers in your tap which most do. save yourself the trouble and use a more pure water source you wil not be dissapointed peace.

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i can defently co-sign to this statement....az

Hello. Currently on my second micro (2.5ft max height) hempy grow. Good grow temps, nutes, and around 3k lumen psf. I have 5 plants that I just threw into flower after 1month veg. They are around 5 to 8" tall. I have been keeping most of them in 16oz plastic hempys and plan on transferring the females to 1g hempy. Do you guys think that the plants will make it another 20 days in these cups until sex shows?

I am always amazed at the root structure in the cup when upgrading to the final bucket.

I remember hearing someone at the beginning of this forum state that they water until they see a little run over out of the bucket..

I thought leaving roots dangle in sitting water was a (BAD THING) that will lead to root rot..

Can anyone comment?

thanx

Little Tommy said:

I am always amazed at the root structure in the cup when upgrading to the final bucket.

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I remember hearing someone at the beginning of this forum state that they water until they see a little run over out of the bucket..

I thought leaving roots dangle in sitting water was a (BAD THING) that will lead to root rot..

Can anyone comment?

thanx

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im sure what you saw was someone saying till water comes out the hole located on the side 2inches from the bottom......in all the buckets i've done..not one had root rot....done right hempys will never cause rot.....as your constantly adding fresh water an o2 almost daily....the water"sitting" at the bottom gets used quickly an is replenished with new fresh water.....az

hey Az, i kinda had a feeling it would go this way, i did as you said wait 30min to an hour, over an hour even now, and, the ph after mixing is 4.7 hasnt budged.. (i checked it right after i mixed and now, same).. so i guess theres no choice but to ph up and try to even it out is there? yo usure you werent thinking im using tap water or something maybe?? cause i use distilled water, i was only thinking of switching to tap when i run out.. anyway, i ph'd it back to 6 and fed them and tomorrow ill check to see if its still 6

oh and the plants are lookin ever worse now with 3 days of just ph'd water, should they? i woulda thought after 2-3 days it would start to look better not worse?? here are pics of the plant that is the worst out of the 3... theres another almost as bad, and then there's one that is seemingly.. happy, no spots like these one's is a nice green, and is growin fast.. the one thats going well is NL, the other two are ak47.. oh btw there are 4 pics but all same plant

temps are 85-87

takes time for plants to bounce back from to much nutes an lock outs...that plant defently looks like it was just being fed to much....keep going with the ph'd water for another few days then give them a feed at that 1/4 power nutes....as for the ph of nutes not settling not sure what to tell ya... i know when i mix 50/50 ro an tap then put my micro in the ph shifts to about 5.9 then when i add the bloom it goes down to 5.7....i use the hardwater micro for this....some strains i've grown want a lil more calcium an the tap water helps add that.....az

AZ, good to see you here. You and Lumberjack are the reason why I am starting my first hempy grow. I am also starting a grow log if you want to check it out. It is pretty early, so no pics yet. I just planted the newly germed seeds in 100% perlite. I have a few questions, though, and would really appreciate your expert advise. I read through to pg 121, but since I started my grow, I have to ass
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1) May be too late, but is it OK to plant seeds right into 100% perlite? I let the seeds site overnight in a bowl of distilled water, then did the papertowel method for 1 day. I placed the seeds in 16oz foam cups with the hole. Placed these in a dome and have 2 65wt CFLs over them. I will spray them with water twice a day until they sprout. Is this cool?

2) I know you use GH lucas formula, but is FF OK as well? I can try to return FF to the hydro store, but if I can use it, might as well.

3) Should I start nuting when the cotys come, or wait for the first set of leaves.

Really apologize if these were asked in the last 50 pages, but, as I said, I just put 7 seeds in cups today.

Thank you.

Your help will be really appreciated.

im so glad that ive found this thread ive been doing hempy bucket projects for aout a year now . right now i have two plants in a 10 gal container to see if the increase in root mass affects on yield and bud density. ill try to post some pics and feed ack is always welcome

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Azgrow said:

ime i've found that 0-5-8 works best for veg as some plants are nute sensitive....but other than that your getting the idea babygreen...az

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Hey Az, heres some pics as promised bro.. my first attempt at a hempy. Pics of hempy with seedlings about 2 n a half weeks old. They were in a soil puck, i then planted the pucks into 16oz cups n coverd with 100% perlite. this is my first ever attempt at any type of grow from scratch!
p.s I've made a few albums, if you get a chance check them out n let me know what you think
Any help, advice, criticism is all welcome

BabyGreeen said:

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Hey Az, heres some pics as promised bro.. my first attempt at a hempy. Pics of hempy with seedlings about 2 n a half weeks old. They were in a soil puck, i then planted the pucks into 16oz cups n coverd with 100% perlite. this is my first ever attempt at any type of grow from scratch!
p.s I've made a few albums, if you get a chance check them out n let me know what you think
Any help, advice, criticism is all welcome

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Alright guys, I tired to upload a few pics of my hempys but it wouldnt let me for some reason...Only letting me put one on at a time?..
Excuse me for being a computer novice aswel as a novice grower lol
Made up a couple of albums n journal type things in "My Roll It Up Pictures & Albums"
Feel free to check it out, any help, advice n criticism is all aprrecited

BabyGreeen said:

Alright guys, I tired to upload a few pics of my hempys but it wouldnt let me for some reason...Only letting me put one on at a time?..
Excuse me for being a computer novice aswel as a novice grower lol
Made up a couple of albums n journal type things in "My Roll It Up Pictures & Albums"
Feel free to check it out, any help, advice n criticism is all aprrecited

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Those plants look like they are reaching for light bad! You need to lower your lights to within just a few inches of the plants if your using florescent lights. If they get too long like that they will fall over.

Here is an update of my first Hempy Bucket grow. They were cloned and rooted under (4) 2' T-5 flourescent tubes and vegged there for another week. Then they were moved under the 400 watt MH. These were started in 20 oz cups and then on to the 5 gal Homer Buckets. First I will post a group shot from 3 weeks ago and then one group shot from this morning. It seems as though the roots have finally hit the res at the bottom and they are starting to take off. What a great thread! Thanks for the inspiration to try something new.

The marijuana plant problem section is a friggin joke, cant get an answer there if my life depended on it.. and quite frankly, im starting to worry i aint getting the right info here either.... not that i dont appreciate the help AZ, but are u sure dude? i been giving them only water 4days straight since this problem STARTED, and it gets worse every single day, at first was little grayish black spots forming, now its all out destroyed this plant almost, all 4 bottom leaves are turning this color, and plant is stunted it looks like.... if the BOTTOM leaves are turning first, doesnt that mean it needs food???? bottom = problem coming from roots??? so me not giving them any food is just making this worse lol.. cause the are definitely not looking good today, and like i said, get noticeable worse every single day, i cant see how that's normal... it should at least have stopped, and slowly fix itself, ANYONE's help is welcome please, cause thisis bugging the shit out of me, it seems like theyre WAY behind schedule as it is... this is almost a month since the broke ground and its kinda depressing... anyway. if this shit doesnt turn around soon i may just give up on doing this, is frustrating as hell.....

so once again, wtf is going with these dumb plants, i cant get why theyre so bad, and the northern lights looks perfectly fine..

Hey brother,

First off, take a deep breathe and relax. If you don't get it right this time you'll get it right the next time. Are the pictures all of the same plant are all of your plants looking like this? Are you measuring your temps and humidity? Do you have any Superthrive? What's the Ph of your water? Lights, etc.?

-Corsican.