Uncle Ben
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This might help. https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/288013-mg-defiency.htmlhey uncle ben, and all.
This might help. https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/288013-mg-defiency.htmlhey uncle ben, and all.
Got any pix? Are you saying they produced alot of leaves and not much bud? The link I gave was to make a point, that it is leaves that drive bud.i probably just have a curtain of newb over my eyes, but i don't think my problems that happened look like his, i was good about the nitrogen and most of my leaves hung on until close to the end, they just went leaf growing crazy.
Got any pix? Are you saying they produced alot of leaves and not much bud? The link I gave was to make a point, that it is leaves that drive bud.
Its funny how the 1st day of nute change with higher nitrogen had 1.3 gallon of fresh water uptake and the next night (tonight) went back to the 1/2 gallon uptake. Not sure what that means. Did it suck up all the nitrogen in just a 24 hour period? Not sure now. Have to wait and see how the plants react in a couple of days I guess.I was just reading a plant study, and it mentioned somewhere in it Nitrogen improves water uptake by plants, so I went googling to see if I could find more info about that.
I found this:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/frfgjapum648jbkp/
No shit.. I've really been getting jumped on a lot here lately for pointing out the simple answers to issues ahead of all the complex steps and formulations people are so enamored of. Then, someone will track my link and find the one or two messy leaves in my grow pic's and say "see there.. you don't know what you're doing. Your plants look like shit..", just totally ignoring the other 99% of what's right in front of their eyes. A recent forum screed busted me down cuz his plants were twice as tall as mine at the same time point, but his 20" plants had like four nodes, no side growth.. mine are 10" loaded with internodes and branches, and just ready to shoot the moon in 12/12.. Ah shit, I could go on.
So yeah, at a lot of points I just say..."go ahead, fuck your plants with 42 different steps and formulations a week that you have no real understanding about and see how it works out in the end". And then you see the thread chain take off again with all these people throwing in a different two cents.. and the thread originator so confused and running all over, 2 trips a day to the hydro store and what-not. It's fairly sad actually.
this should be the very first thing you learn about any plant.IT IS LEAVES THAT DRIVE BUD
14 jugs of molasses and not one single book on plants
That would make a great sig line!If you own 28 different foods , 65 different additives and 14 jugs of molasses and not one single book on plants then that is the problem.
Read folks, not just on RIU but on plants in general.
wb
Hell, it should be the opening statement to this site lol!If you own 28 different foods , 65 different additives and 14 jugs of molasses and not one single book on plants then that is the problem.
Read folks, not just on RIU but on plants in general.
wb
Its post's like your's that amaze me. You guys read a few post's in the thread and you feel its your duty to "set us straight." I am sure you will see it stated here numerous times that no 2 grows are the same. The OP is offering his advice and time to answer the questions that are posted here. You came here, we did not go looking for you or your wisdom.Damn you guys never cease to amaze me. Its as if you all think your way is the only way. Cant people just use a basic formula and grow on that. You also need to remember that just cause something works in your room doesn't mean it will translate into mine or someone else's. How many plants do you focus on. How big an area. what are u starting w. (seed or cuts). How long do you veg, ie what size plants do you grow. The ones i see are all about 24" when finished. My friend doesnt even switch his til then or later and end up at about 5-6' (he has 10' ceilings) I do mine to finish at about 4'.It all depends on what stlyle you like to use.
Pruning is also a matter of taste. Not all leaves need to stay on the plant the whole time. If you have an over abundance surrounding your buds in the final 2-3 weeks you'll end up w. a bunch of fluff and chances of powdery mildew or bud rot. Trust me doing a 10x10 room w/ 25-30 large plants is a hell of a lot different than some cat putting a 400w in his closet and taking care of 2 damn plants.
So IMO just do what works and ask ?'s if you need help. Stop posting a bunch of useless crap trying to make yourselves seem cool or smarter than most. Its a damn plant and w/ a little love and good timing through experience you will know when to add a high P fert or whichever additives you use.
Good luck to all growers remember. we are all supposed to be on the same team, but we dont all have to share the same glove and bat .
well sit back an join the team then.Damn you guys never cease to amaze me. Its as if you all think your way is the only way. Cant people just use a basic formula and grow on that. You also need to remember that just cause something works in your room doesn't mean it will translate into mine or someone else's. How many plants do you focus on. How big an area. what are u starting w. (seed or cuts). How long do you veg, ie what size plants do you grow. The ones i see are all about 24" when finished. My friend doesnt even switch his til then or later and end up at about 5-6' (he has 10' ceilings) I do mine to finish at about 4'.It all depends on what stlyle you like to use.
Pruning is also a matter of taste. Not all leaves need to stay on the plant the whole time. If you have an over abundance surrounding your buds in the final 2-3 weeks you'll end up w. a bunch of fluff and chances of powdery mildew or bud rot. Trust me doing a 10x10 room w/ 25-30 large plants is a hell of a lot different than some cat putting a 400w in his closet and taking care of 2 damn plants.
So IMO just do what works and ask ?'s if you need help. Stop posting a bunch of useless crap trying to make yourselves seem cool or smarter than most. Its a damn plant and w/ a little love and good timing through experience you will know when to add a high P fert or whichever additives you use.
Good luck to all growers remember. we are all supposed to be on the same team, but we dont all have to share the same glove and bat .
To be fair, your initial post did come off as more of that negative stuff. However, you've since clarified, so it's all good. When poking fun, it's always helpful to readers when smilies like or or are used, to help replace the lack of body language and voice inflections when talking via text.I'm the one who was trying to get everyone to lighten up and help out, not post more negative stuff.
As for the you helping people out, how bout you answer their questions as THEY post them not just start some thread about random things that noobies dont get anyways?
If you go through and read a lot of stuff on here is bs or really negative. Isn't this supposed to be a mellowing thing anyhow. Peace, keep it green.
There's no difference between one plant or one thousand when it comes to basic gardening essentials such as nutrition.Trust me doing a 10x10 room w/ 25-30 large plants is a hell of a lot different than some cat putting a 400w in his closet and taking care of 2 damn plants.
Great points.well sit back an join the team then.
what would be the big difference in growing 2 or 30? (more work , more fans?) i am not the one to stir shit up but this is confusing to folks, there is no difference in doing a couple or doing a bunch. the plant dont change nor does the way it tick. thats about the only part of your post i dont agree with. I really dont think anyone on here is trying to be "cool" . i would say 8 out of 10 growers buy into the marketing hype..... i did. and sometimes not always it takes a thread like this to make you relize that.
(that powdery mildew will go away with some air circulation)
Bottom line: "So IMO just do what works and ask ?'s if you need help."
wb