skunkushybrid
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yet according to you frth' we can never know enough to make a decision on an answer. So, if knowledge comes to those that seek it it is possible to know something.
The Universe!!!
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sasarchiver
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WOW! get abit hot in here, or has the sun finally past our comfort zone 
I guess people have different believes and opinons. We believe in science and preists believe in God, so we all dont think alike.
im on the same thoughts/believes as frthnks85. Im not going to tell people whats right and whats not. If some of you believe in God then fair enough i aint going to tell u different.
Would love to hear more thoughts on the universe from diff people but dont get angry and carried away guys
Take a chill pill, sit back and relax.
I guess people have different believes and opinons. We believe in science and preists believe in God, so we all dont think alike.
im on the same thoughts/believes as frthnks85. Im not going to tell people whats right and whats not. If some of you believe in God then fair enough i aint going to tell u different.
Would love to hear more thoughts on the universe from diff people but dont get angry and carried away guys
Take a chill pill, sit back and relax.skunk you misunderstand we can know things here on this earth... i enjoy science and think a lot can be learned from such but it is not the end all know all just as religion is not the end all know all... however to blatantly say that there is no such thing as is ignorant unless it can beyond reasonable doubt be proved here... hell if you stay under water to long you drown... that is fact it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt... however how the universe was formed whether scientifically or by a god who knows... the simple answer is no one... but by only believing in one possibilty or another you partake in ignorance... and by ignorance i mean it as defined... making comments not knowing the answer... that is what i mean by open mind... if you don't know then don't say that you know for sure and don't try to use a rationale such as common sense to back up ur claims... its ok to say u believe science is the answer but its not ok to say science is the only possible answer unless u can prove it with concrete facts... and that just can't happen right now because humans know very little as far as the whole of the universe is concerned... VERY LITTLE... i have my theories but i know thats all they are theories... hell even darwains idea was only a theory based on what he observed... so that being said lets try to understand more about the universe instead of bickering back and forth about what I know is right and what U know is right because as i've said many times in many threads i don't know anything about the universe and its workings for fact I just have theories...
eatinbabybrains
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your contradicting yourself here man. You said you "know" there is no god in the same way that I "know" there is more out there for us to discover, but as I said , I don't know for SURE that there's more out there, But I assume it to be so based on the fact that the universe is (supposedly) very very huge. But you, I expect, KNOW(?) God does not exist, rather than just assume it to be so. If you knew god existed in the same way that I know theres more out there for us to discover, you obviously wouldn't know very well than (as in, you wouldn't know for sure, as you claim to). Also, you would be very wrong in your assumption that my beliefs lean towards god existing, and ESPECIALLY wrong in assuming that my beliefs lean towards him being a christian God. To start off, I was raised to accept all religions (well maby not ALL; devil worship etc...) as equal. But let me tell you throughout the years I've built up a particular dislike for the christian faith, mainly because their fundamentalists just come off as bat-shit insane. Plus, the fact that many of them firmly believe the earth is only 6000 years old is just...soo... Anyways, When I was younger I firmly believed in God, merely because thats what I was raised to believe. But when I got to my teen years I started questioning God's existence, then for a while I was acutally an atheist, than I started questioning THOSE beliefs, and here I am now.
You see, I don't really "believe" anything. There's things I know, and things I dont know. I know the sky is blue. I don't know whether God exists or not. And despite everything you may say, I KNOW that you don't know whether or not God exists, becuase to me knowing does not come without KNOWLEDGE. FACTS. I think I'm just about done here. Arguing God's existence/lack of existence is one of the most pointless and looping argument because, quite simply, you need facts to make a good argument. And If there's one thing I just don't understand about people like you and fundamentalists, it's how they can so completely devote themselves to a belief so blindly. I just don't see how God's ambiguity could be so hard for someone to swallow, considering the fact that well, there are no facts. So Unless you have something really insightful and new to bring to the table im over this thread.
skunkushybrid
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As above. lol. How can we find out more if people like you will not accept circumstantial evidence? You seem hell bent on not knowing anything, in even dying this way. As you get older frth', you will have to make a decision one way or another, or you will die never knowing anything. Just answer the fairy question, one way or the other.
skunkushybrid
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Mine is not a belief. I fucking know that we weren't created by some spaceman. How can you even consider we were? To me, it is fucking cavemanlike to believe in such twaddle. There are plenty of facts, you just choose to be blinded to them. The biggest fact about belief in a god you are missing is the fact that WE made it up! We used to worship the sun, back when we were clever, at least you can fucking see it. Then, as our imaginations grew some bright spark decided to believe in a god that you can't see, that way nobody will ever be able to prove it doesn't exist. Keep believing that fairies just might exist for all I care.
sure faries could exist... maybe not on this earth but maybe.... who knows i haven't explored every last inch of this earth so i can't say for sure... and i know plenty skunk I would probably surprise you with the depth of my knowledge... having said that i think we should be done with this whole god thing... because you are arguing he doesn't exist and i'm arguing i don't know one way or the other... so it doesn't even match up...
skunkushybrid
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Thanks frth', thankyou very much. You're right there's no point in arguing with someone that believes fairies might exist.
skunk i said they could are you in the business of twisting words??? i doubt that they do since there has been no physical evidence ever found but umm.... we have extensive cave systems an ocean no one has ever been to the bottom of and stretches of jungle and desert no human has ever explored... you keep on thinking science can prove everything and acting like you know anything thats good for you... but you just display your ignorance post by post... get real man... you think you have any idea what goes on in this world and i bet you've never been out of your own country... talk about thick give me a break... you want to try and bust my cherry try to make me look foolish but u ask stupid ass questions that have no relevence just to try and make your point... like i said a while back when you know everything give me a call and maybe i'll take credence in what you say... however i have a feeling i will never get that call... because you will never know everything and never be able to especially with your mind as closed as it is... good luck on your search for knowledge based on common sense which you have none of....
7xstall
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oh, SKH forever on your noble quest for certainty. still looking for The answer and for the logical termination of the questions leading to your inexplicable doubt, or at least the absolution of the need not to doubt that so many others have...
let me know when you have it, my friend. you do make wonderful threads of your search.
let me know when you have it, my friend. you do make wonderful threads of your search.
skunkushybrid
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Feeling a little hurt are we frth'? Hahaha. I asked you a simple question, and you answered that you believe fairies could exist.
My ignorance? LoL.
eatinbabybrains
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That's exactly right. I don't know if there's more out there for us to discover. For all we know we could be the only spec of developed life in this entire universe. All I know for sure, is that it is not known whether or not there actually IS more out there for us, so all there is to do is wait and see. I'm not positive about there being more out there. You're positive about God not existing. You clearly said that you know God in the same way that I know theres more out there for us to discover. Maby it wasn't so much a contradiction on your part so much as merely you didn't understand what I was saying, but I did clearly say that I don't know for SURE if there's more out there for us the first time. Did you just miss that part or something?
Of course we made up the belief in god, as a way to rationalize life. Just because there may have been a time in human history when "god" wasn't even a concept to anyone doesn't automatically mean he doesn't exist. If a tree falls in the middle of the forest and no one hears it, does it really make a sound? If God exists he exists. If he doesn't he doesn't. All I know is I need to see it for myself before I can really, truly know for myself. And it looks like the only way to do that is by dying. So that's it. I will go to the grave undecided unless some monumental discovery is made in my lifetime.
ToastyBowlDropper
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my firend amandsa and i were talking last night durring a joint walk we took, and we looked up to see the moon perfectly full and it had a ring of dencde couds around it. the sky had so much detail behind it too. it reminded me of something my frind julie said. she told me that one time she got in a really bac accident of some kind, and she was legally declaired dead for 3 minutes. she said death is something like, someone lifting a grey veil off our eyes and you see colors in this universe for what they really are and what they truky stand for in the scheme of life. it was amazing to see the difference in detail between the clods and moon and that the clear crisp sky behind it. it was like being dead for a second and getting to see what they see.
trppy shit man...you have no clue!!!
trppy shit man...you have no clue!!!
skunkushybrid
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LMAO. toastybowldropper, shit man, you have no clue. Neither does your bullshitty little friend.
skunkushybrid
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I must have misunderstood you, it's because I was arguing with frth' the man that doesn't know anything. How can you see something for yourself if there isn't anything to see? Surely the act of not seeing it should be enough for you? You say you know we made up belief in gods and then in the next breath say that you are not sure if one exists because you have never seen it. It appears as though you could answer the same question as frth. As you have never seen them, or not seen them, could fairies exist?
Educated_Black_Man
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depending on your beliefs
time does not exist its man made as well as tha fact that there isnt a future.....shit dont change while u sleep.....tha only two things that exist(in my opinion) are past and present
tha fact that there might be a future means ur life is written in stone and i dont believe in fate
so basically tha future as u call it is only a perpetual present
put that in ur pipe and smoke it
time does not exist its man made as well as tha fact that there isnt a future.....shit dont change while u sleep.....tha only two things that exist(in my opinion) are past and present
tha fact that there might be a future means ur life is written in stone and i dont believe in fate
so basically tha future as u call it is only a perpetual present
put that in ur pipe and smoke it
Educated_Black_Man
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oh yea.....
SHUT THA FUCK UP AND CHILL, SKUNK KUSH
SHUT THA FUCK UP AND CHILL, SKUNK KUSH
skunkushybrid
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Time does exist, would still exist even if nobody was around to count it.
What doesn't change when you are asleep? Everything changes because everything is aging with time.
Future exists too. An unknown quantity. To believe in future has nothing to do with fate. Fate is a future with direction when future is directionless. It's only constant is that everything will age.
It's quite funny because there is also such a thing as fate. There is only one type though, it's known as death.
What doesn't change when you are asleep? Everything changes because everything is aging with time.
Future exists too. An unknown quantity. To believe in future has nothing to do with fate. Fate is a future with direction when future is directionless. It's only constant is that everything will age.
It's quite funny because there is also such a thing as fate. There is only one type though, it's known as death.
skunkushybrid
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Shut up? Huh? WTF? Is this your thread? Maybe I should wait and see what you write after this, see if you can try and live up to that 'educated' handle. As I suspect you are educated in not very much at all. You could well have a doctorate in this subject.
sasarchiver
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time does exist, it started with the birth of the universe and will die with it too.
I was liking all the discussions here on the subject but its turned into a debate....
I was liking all the discussions here on the subject but its turned into a debate....