This LED Light claiming 210w draw but 1000w equivilent??

SSGrower · May 18, 2016

chuck estevez said:
I'm talking about sunlight supply, hydrofarm, they sell what the industry is hot on and they QUIT selling LEDS. BWGS sells KIND and well, I don't need to say anything else bout that.

Same reason you are now seeing calories posted next to you combo meal at mickey d's. They ignored cultural desires for healthier eating and are beginning to feel the impact to the bottom line. Excited gas bulbs will go the way of the 100W incandescents and these companies will fall in line only when it required by regulation or is fiscally benificial to them, and have very little concern for what bennifites you so long as you content to purchase the product.

Hybrid cars and electric cars, solar pannels, alt. energy, heat pumps......the list of good thing taking an inordinate amount of time to reach market only because consumers are not speaking with their wallets is very long.

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
Clearly, if people are banking on/investing in a technology before they put it out there, there's something to it. And, my plant, premature or not, came out pretty frosty and extremely smooth and tasty.

I am not saying they are not the future, i am saying they are not now, and the people claiming they can compare to a 1000 watt hps with 350 watts of led are full of shit. thats all
you guys tried to feed people on blurples and those flopped, get it?

Olive Drab Green · May 18, 2016

chuck estevez said:
I am not saying they are not the future, i am saying they are not now, and the people claiming they can compare to a 1000 watt hps with 350 watts of led are full of shit. thats all

I said from the beginning, at this stage? Yield, no; quality, yes. Of course 350w LEDs would not yield as much as a 1kW HID.

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
I said from the beginning, at this stage? Yield, no; quality, yes. Of course 350w LEDs would not yield as much as a 1kW HID.

that's what started it all, people claiming HPS killer and my 500 watts out grows 1000 hps. just be honest, watt for watt, led grows more, but HPS stills grows better bigger quality buds and that is what matters to me.

Olive Drab Green · May 18, 2016

chuck estevez said:
that's what started it all, people claiming HPS killer and my 500 watts out grows 1000 hps. just be honest, watt for watt, led grows more, but HPS stills grows better bigger quality buds and that is what matters to me.

See, and I think it's the opposite; that quality-wise, they're comparable. But yield is a little less, by like, 3/5-3/4.

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
See, and I think it's the opposite; that quality-wise, they're comparable. But yield is a little less, by like, 3/5-3/4.

that why I ask and keep asking for a solid pic of some top shelf bud when it's ready to smoke and I have yet to see 1. Sorry, not a personal insult to you, but your pic is far from top shelf, I couldn't give that away.

Olive Drab Green · May 18, 2016

chuck estevez said:
that why I ask and keep asking for a solid pic of some top shelf bud when it's ready to smoke and I have yet to see 1. Sorry, not a personal insult to you, but your pic is far from top shelf, I couldn't give that away.

Your opinion, I suppose. My shit saved a friend from eviction.

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
Your opinion, I suppose.

I suppose

Olive Drab Green · May 18, 2016

Very nice. But your good bud doesn't make my bud not headies-quality. My only issue was my two-week-early premature harvest.

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
Very nice. But your good bud doesn't make my bud not headies-quality. My only issue was my two-week-early premature harvest.

I know, I said I didn't mean anything by it. I am looking at this from a customers perspective and I need "bag appeal" I want my bud to sell it's self and that is what I get with DE HPS lighting, plus I am clearing 2 Lbs a light.

ttystikk · May 18, 2016

chuck estevez said:
they have plenty of time to take the pics of it growing, or zoom up close. but they always fail to take one when it's ready, and there is a reason.
and the reason isn't time.lol

For once, you're correct;

In this case, the reason is DEMAND, LOL

Olive Drab Green · May 18, 2016

Fair enough, man. I'm a medical patient. So, different strokes.

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

ttystikk said:
For once, you're correct;

In this case, the reason is DEMAND, LOL

keep telling yourself that!!

chuck estevez · May 18, 2016

@ttystikk , how come hortilux isn't doing bright white cobs?

morgwar · May 18, 2016

"Bag Appeal" lol my wife gave some of my finished stuff to a card carrying coworker and the old hippy said it looked home grown and artisanal, smoked tasted like iced tea and the happiest buzz he ever had. I spent very little effort to trim and only had cured for 3weeks.
I'm new at this and never grew with HPS or MH but this elitist perfect beauty pagent bud crap will die out once Phillip morris starts pumping out its weederettes by the billions.
And with even the lowest prices in the country your not going to find a "125.00 " bag anywhere, even full of seeds and smelling like gasoline. (God I miss those days) on top of that consumables, wax and shatter seem to be the new craze so "pretty bud" is pointless.
I'm looking at goregeouse better than dispensary pics in this thread and you all are sneering at it like the one chubby chick at a skinny bitch convention.
Do your best with what you've got. And if someone does it better with different equipment for the same price take it or leave it.

dbkick · May 18, 2016

chuck estevez said:
@ttystikk , how come hortilux isn't doing bright white cobs?

bravedave · May 18, 2016

If i wanted to get 24 zips in 100 days with a bubblegum kush...in a 4x4 room what would my approx. $$ outlay be on an LED setup.

ttystikk · May 18, 2016

morgwar said:
"Bag Appeal" lol my wife gave some of my finished stuff to a card carrying coworker and the old hippy said it looked home grown and artisanal, smoked tasted like iced tea and the happiest buzz he ever had. I spent very little effort to trim and only had cured for 3weeks.
I'm new at this and never grew with HPS or MH but this elitist perfect beauty pagent bud crap will die out once Phillip morris starts pumping out its weederettes by the billions.
And with even the lowest prices in the country your not going to find a "125.00 " bag anywhere, even full of seeds and smelling like gasoline. (God I miss those days) on top of that consumables, wax and shatter seem to be the new craze so "pretty bud" is pointless.
I'm looking at goregeouse better than dispensary pics in this thread and you all are sneering at it like the one chubby chick at a skinny bitch convention.
Do your best with what you've got. And if someone does it better with different equipment for the same price take it or leave it.

I've seem some fire zips for 125 right here in Colorado. Prices are coming down and while it's true that eventually there will be a basic grade, it's especially true of Cannabis that better grades will find a niche. Why? Well- alcohol is alcohol and nicotine is nicotine- but weed really does come in infinite variety!

ttystikk · May 18, 2016

Tell me tell me what does it say?!?!

bravedave · May 19, 2016

bravedave said:
If i wanted to get 24 zips in 100 days with a bubblegum kush...in a 4x4 room what would my approx. $$ outlay be on an LED setup.

Crickets. That expensive?

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