Tired of people say MG is not for Cannabis. I'm going to shut all of you up.

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tusseltussel said:
so far no one or not many has argued that you can not have great results with Mg you can but the truth is it's NOT for cannabis, it just isn't. that doesn't mean you cant use it but you would be better off not. I am tired of people fighting for Mg now. It is up to you if you want to put in the work on an inferior product that supports big agribusiness than go right ahead do a pointless side by side with random genetics that prove nothing good or bad about mg go smoke some fruit from the crack while your at it.... UNSUBSCRIBED
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Someone is mad :| aww boohoo Freakin hippy
 
PJ Diaz

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I still don't understand why anyone would want to support a company like Scotts. There are better options out there that cost even less, believe it or not!
 
drolove

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PJ Diaz said:
I still don't understand why anyone would want to support a company like Scotts. There are better options out there that cost even less, believe it or not!
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lol when i go out and buy shit im not buying it based on the company. its about what i need, quality of product, and what im willing to spend. if they got a good product and i need it im gonna buy it and i dont care what that company does with my money once it leaves my hand. its never about supporting a company.
 
PJ Diaz

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drolove said:
lol when i go out and buy shit im not buying it based on the company. its about what i need, quality of product, and what im willing to spend. if they got a good product and i need it im gonna buy it and i dont care what that company does with my money once it leaves my hand. its never about supporting a company.
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Seriously? It's exactly this kind of attitude that's making this world go to shit. You don't care? Really? What if they are trying to poison your family and friends with the money you gave them? You still don't care? Really? OK, even that aside let's consider their product real quick. First of all it's not really a quality product. It has very minimal micro nutes which are just as important as NKP. Compare MG to a superior yet inexpensive and similar product like GH Maxigro. Maxigro is also a one part dry nute just like MG. The big difference is that it has micro nutes, and is more complex in what it was derived from in the first place. OK, so let's compare prices. MG is around $6 at the local chain type store for a 1.5 pound box -- that comes to $4/pound of dry nutes. Compared to Maxigro online or at your local hydro store is $10 for a 2.2 pound bag of dry nutes -- $4.55/pound. I don't know about you, but I'm happy to pay an extra 55 cents for a far superior product, and one which isn't full of evil at that.
 
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drolove said:
lol when i go out and buy shit im not buying it based on the company. its about what i need, quality of product, and what im willing to spend. if they got a good product and i need it im gonna buy it and i dont care what that company does with my money once it leaves my hand. its never about supporting a company.
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Since I was young, and with my dad being a teamster and us living in a small city, I grew up with him instilling in me to always try to help the 'little guy' first if at all possible.
As far as people's beef with Scotts, IDK, and I really am not interested, but I use MG because it's cheap, readily available, hasn't given me problems, and I have some left over from planting veggies.
 
drolove

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PJ Diaz said:
Seriously? It's exactly this kind of attitude that's making this world go to shit. You don't care? Really? What if they are trying to poison your family and friends with the money you gave them? You still don't care? Really? OK, even that aside let's consider their product real quick. First of all it's not really a quality product. It has very minimal micro nutes which are just as important as NKP. Compare MG to a superior yet inexpensive and similar product like GH Maxigro. Maxigro is also a one part dry nute just like MG. The big difference is that it has micro nutes, and is more complex in what it was derived from in the first place. OK, so let's compare prices. MG is around $6 at the local chain type store for a 1.5 pound box -- that comes to $4/pound of dry nutes. Compared to Maxigro online or at your local hydro store is $10 for a 2.2 pound bag of dry nutes -- $4.55/pound. I don't know about you, but I'm happy to pay an extra 55 cents for a far superior product, and one which isn't full of evil at that.
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oh i hear you and am against MG all the way. im not talking about MG in particular. just saying if so and so company had a good product for good price im gonna buy it. not gonna go home and research the company first to make sure i approve of what they're doing with the money.
 
C.Indica

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Not to mention how badly Fox Farm soils kill plants when used poorly.Or by themselves for that matter.MG works fine if you know what you're doing.I'd probably still cut it with SS#4, which I still use.
 
jpeg666

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PJ Diaz said:
I don't understand. Is this about Miracle Gro soil, or nutes? When I hear Miragle Gro, I think of nutes, not soil. They made nutes first and then soil later. They are a nute company.
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The thread was started for the soil, MG nutes were never an argument for me. I just wanted to do some MG soil tests
 
drolove

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C.Indica said:
Not to mention how badly Fox Farm soils kill plants when used poorly.Or by themselves for that matter.MG works fine if you know what you're doing.I'd probably still cut it with SS#4, which I still use.
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and how would you use it poorly exactly? when i used fox farm and half perlite i NEVER had any kind of issue. over watering was impossible with all the perlite in it so that cant be it. idk how else you could use it poorly.
 
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well I came and signed in because I accidentally came across something... I wanted to start a thread on this.. but I happened to find just what I was looking for right here.. So don't accuse me of thread jacking im just trying to help! I know alot of people like to try miracle grow soil and ferts...When I was like 15-16... I found the marijuana growers bible over at the borders local to me... HOLY SHIT!!! WEED BOOKS IN THE COFFEE SHOP i said to myself.. So needless to say i picked one up and it was later stolen from me at about 20 something... long story short.. I tried to memorize the basics and trial and error is the only solution to a successful grow.I personally have even seen great results with just hyponex.. Even though I swear by not using it.. There are alot of wonderful products on the market.. Although when your hard up,(eeek! no pun intended! haha) a hole dug outside will support a healthy already established plant. So with this said... I came across a miracle grow chart and figured it would be great for all the hippies, non-seasoned, or experimental growers.. here it is..If things arent spelled correctly tough shit, I didn't write it.. I just figured someone would appreciate my efforts! either way have fun and try to find another alternative.. I would imagine there are some carcinogens that arent good for your health.. none the less its your body and your temple : ) cya!FOR MIRACLE GROW NUTES :If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:Clawingbrown dry spotscrinckling leavespale new growthYellowingif these happen, flush the plant, and wait 2-3 days before feeding again.If Using MG soil and this happens, your best route is to re-plant in a bigger planter with different soil... DO NOT try to remove the existing soil from the roots of the plant!!!!Good luck--MG may not be the best-- but it CAN work!HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!Source: Lady Zandra
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You shoulda quoted it to make it more evident its not yours. None the less good post. Research is key and learning is never complete.
 
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