If you have $2700 to spare you could buy a old Malvern partical analyser off ebay, if cash is no object the latest model is a snip at $60 grand
Wow- that's a helluva pump- you gonna mist a warehouse? Gees pulls 25 amps @150psi!... Well, you're not underpowered man... lol
LOL, I'll pass at this tender juncture... But it's cool to know how much it would take to get into the mist analyzation business... No wonder some of those nozzle makers don't have alot of info...If you have $2700 to spare you could buy a old Malvern partical analyser off ebay, if cash is no object the latest model is a snip at $60 grand
Glad to be in your good company... I plan to run at a regulated constant pressure of 100 psi. I could go higher, but the more I go, the less time between accumulator recharging. The unregulated side will recharge to 140 psi (just shy of the max accum pressure rating). I recently bought parts to build a mirt (google it) and some of the excess electronics parts could work. I'll have to find a diagram to follow as I am not that sharp on my own. Most likely I will buy a timer for now, just because I need to refocus back on some other areas of my life- this is already completely consuming me lately- lol. I'll opt for the deckbox cuz it will look aesthetically pleasing while blending in and it's made for the weather. My digs are running my 90 psi mains pressure to irrigate my normal herbs in the garden- it's a decent mist. I agree with you on the real pioneers here. If I had a choice to meet a movie star in person, or tree farmer and atomizer- I think I'd be more starstruck with the latter...
It all makes sense, except it may short cycle with anything less than a fairly large accumulator. I was hoping since you seem to be interested in goin all out on this that you were intending on using the accumulator setup? The reason I try to persuade you this way was is that you most likely cannot easily attain any of the benefits of HPA without it. Ask Petflora- he has been extremely dilligent about trying without an accumulator for years, and even if he ever gets a bit of root fuzz, it never lasts as the setup is just very hard if not impossible to dial in, or keep dialed in to keep them fuzzy. I want to spend my time dialing in the timing of the accumulator and nutes, and not just getting the mist environment halfway ok. Maybe it's just me, but I want to do this the right way, and I figure if you also wanna really do this right, then you should really consider it. An extra hundred or so bucks now in the initial setup, means all the difference in the results everafter. Also, I'm not sure of your nozzle spray radius, but you might find it easier getting different nozzles that dont require the shield, one of the important aspects to the fog is how it spreads out through the void in the chamber from the nozzle, and I wonder if blocking that action will have negative effects. I can already imagine that the shield will cause condensation and dripping to the roots that grow below it, something we should be striving to get away from. But don't get me wrong man- I'm glad you're here trying, and would not bust your balls for following what your mind wants to do- I only want to interject my understanding of things, in case it saves you some time and trouble, and helps your results. We may have very different end goals, and that's perfectly fine.
Awesome man, sounds good, and it's cool to have your engineering skills onboard... Hey, have you read Cavadge's thread "Project-forget the fogger- I am going HP aero"? He used 5 gallon Lowe's buckets which is a tad smaller than your idea. The pics looked pretty decent, but I noticed that even though a 5 gallon bucket while generally roomy for a soil grow, looked packed tight with roots in hp aero, and I'd venture to say he was overmisting and could have gotten even bigger/better roots. Anyway, I was really surprised how much the roots can expand in this style of growing, so 6 gallons is not huge believe it or not! Anyway, he did end up having decent looking plants at harvest, so it can work. Tree farmer was using something like 30 gallon buckets, but he was growing huge trees- I guess it all depends on how big you want em to get... I think I'm leaving a good amount of space for my roots, but then again- I am in year round 12/12 sunlight- so i will never get a proper veg unless I intervene. I guess I'm tired of speculating, I can't wait to actually do a first run... Hope my experiences will be helpful to you too...
I think I deduced that based on tree farmer's posts that a plant that size would be happiest in about a 40 gallon brute... That's one of the reasons I decided to go with a larger multiple site chamber rather than a single pod per plant setup... Here is a little reading on the subject in this thread I believe: http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f29/trees-aero-15936/
Yeah, I see you were able to get a live conversation with him in your thread. He seems to be pretty much underground since my getting into this. I have to learn from him only through his historical posts, but they are definitely informative. Well, hopefully in a couple months I can forward a couple pics to him of my setup and results, along with a big fat "thanks, for your past work and knowledge you've shared"
Yeah, but don't think that in aero it is demanding more light than normal. To the contrast, I've read in aero you can get decent yields with less light. Yes though, the root depth can be an issue with the ceiling height involved- but you can always go fatter and shorter like the atomix chamber- it was 1mx1mx23" or so- and scrog the plant horizontally if need be. I suppose it's a good thing you are armed with this knowledge now and can incorporate it into your final setup. I'm lucky with being outdoors with no ceiling, and I'm just as happy doing smaller plants, but you migt be worrying about a plant count, and that I understand.
