Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Well, I have purchased the vegamatrix products to use on the next few runs of plants i have until my switch to ROLS no till is in full swing; which seems to take a while lol! Looking forward to trying out the stuff. friend of mine has great results with vegamatrix line. The only bottle i didnt buy was the zyme. i should read more about it but i figured i could supply enzymes with coconut water, SSTs, and what not.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Here's the run of plants I'll be using the vegamatrix on. Black Domina, Dr. Who, 9lb Hammer, Jack's Cleaner 2, Confidential Cheese. So far I'm loving the vegamatrix products. have seen no sensitivity to the nutes whatsoever. Everything so happy! I'll be flipping a few of these soon.Happy.jpg
 
Mr.Sprout

Mr.Sprout

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upthearsenal said:
are worm castings vegan?
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Matt Rize said:
With the theory out there, let's go to practice. Vegan is showing up on all sorts of labels these days, but the word itself means little. Most chemy nutes are vegan. What I am talking about when I say veganics is plant-based nutes.

That brings us to the best nute company in the world, CANNA. Who else has the balls to directly label the product this way? I've never tested their chemy lines but have read great reviews. The BioCanna line is the backbone of veganics, and on a level all its own in the nute world. Don't you just love the smell of Vega and Flores? Yum, like molasses and soy sauce. If you are on a budget the BioBoost can be foliar fed, but both is better :). One thing to note is that advanced gardeners will have to feed heavy and possibly supplement N in veg and P/K in flower for optimal results. The BioCanna website has lots of great info about the special process of plant fermentation and extraction used to make this unique line of nutes. They are sourcing from all over the world to make the best vegan organic plant-extract nutes.
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yea use CANNABIO too,but i also use some organics hydrponics ,they have veganic product too http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/general_organics/
 
Mr.CrumWell

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decided to go veganics after i had a tote of noots left out whole season. the only noots that didn't rot and smell just rank were the plant based ones. 500$+ of animal shit ruined. then i though hmmm if you promote similar conditions in the soil it will rot in there too.

so after looking at vegan noots i decided on down to earth. most of there products are omri listed and a million dollars cheaper then things marketed as veganic like dragon fly.

so now what i use is

down to earth pro mix soil (SOIL)

down to earth vegan mix (based mix for soil)

then i brew teas using these ingredients depending on veg or bloom

agmino powder (nitrogen)

liquid calcium

azomite

langbeinite

humic acid

root zone

and a few other things if i have the $

BUT i have yet to find a good organic & veganic source of phosphorus

any one have an affordable option i could check out?

I'm the type of grower that factors every dollar spent into cost per gram to produce so dragon fly earth medicine and some of the other trendy vegan lines were a bit pricy for me.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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vitamin_green_inc said:
I have read soft rock phosphate is no Bueno for indoors cannabis, metals-heavy heavy metals leaching into buds?
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oh that would be no bueno cause i just mixed up 40 gal of soil with soft rock phosphate in it. that would be a bummer. but all the rock dusts have heavy metals too... don't they?
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Mohican said:
The leaves pull in the toxins to protect the vital organs.
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i just read that biochar, and other materials that make a high CEC soil, bind up toxins that can be present in soils. can't wait until my char and charless 20 gals are done cooking! can't wait to see the difference, i'm thinking by the 3rd run the biochar will be dialed in... and at first i may not see much difference.
 
mid-western outdoor

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So when using the bio canna do you not need to use a P/K? Do they make a bio P/K? I love canna everyone claims its way over priced but I always feed at the lowest ppm recommended and my plants love it and I'm vegan as well and been wanting to step away from synthetic nutes VEGANICS IS THE TRUTH!!! I got buddies doing indoor no till and their buds are the tastiest and smoothest smoke iv ever consumed
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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so i'm running some plants with vegamatrix and i'm looking at the feeding schedule on the site, and it says enzymes weekly, is that one addition per week? i'm just using coconut water for enzymes. Also, i remember seeing somewhere that Matt Rize uses BSM every watering... is this still true? if so, what rate do you guys include the BSM/gal? looking forward to the seeing some good results. so far the con cheese are looking great!
 
oldbikepunk

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oldbikepunk said:
That's fucking amazing.
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I'm going to be on that later when i have materials again. I actually rototilled and BBQ'd a lot of weed i had to play with after a police visit two years ago. I was over the grow limit here, but nothing happened at all. Saw it, saw my papers, and said they'd deal with it later..so i garbaged down to legal limits and a good neighbor dried a pound for me to be safe. It's the SF Bay Area, but still. You never know. I'm making hash later. I've been reading the information here for a year. It's really great.
 
oldbikepunk

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sunni said:
my wifi got caught off, sorry lol , let me repost.

if youre going to buy into the prepackaged vegan foods, yes it can be expensive, if you eat out 4 times a week yes it can be expensive.

if you eat regular already vegan food it is cheap. Rough average of cost
Pantry foods/Items :

beans, (black, white kidney ect) (canned more expensive at 67 cents per can, dry more of a pain in the ass to do but are cheaper at 1$ but more aount)
TVP - 3$
Bulgar, 2$
Quinoa 3$
Couscous 2$
flour 3$
Chia seeds 2$
Flax seeds 2$
Lentils, legumes, ect 1$ (bags dried)
Baking soda 1$
baking powder 2$
Pasta 1$
Rice noodles 2$
Rice paper 2$
Rice 4$
Spices while generally expensive last long average amount of spices is roughly 10$

Vegetables (obviously youre not going to buy ALL of these at one go)
Carrots 2$
onions 2$
lettuce (depending on season ) 3$
bell peppers 2$
cucumbers 80 cents
tomatoes 1$
eggplant 2$
Spinach 1$
Garlic fresh 80 cents pack of 5
zucchini 2$
Cabbage 2$
bok choy 1$
radishes 1$
raddico 2$
artichoke 4/5$
corn 5/2$
squashes usually 70 cents per lbs
sprouts 2$
potatoes 3$
sweet potatoes 3$

Frozen foods:
Brussels sprouts 2$
frozen veggies 1-2$
juice 70 cents

Fruit:
bananas 70 cent
berries usually 3/5$
avocados 5/4$
pears 1$
apples 2$ (bag)
Frozen fruit for smoothies 4$

Additional vegan foods/condiments:
Tofu 1$
bbq sauce 1$
ketchup 2$
mustard 1$
salad dressings 1-2$
evoo 5$
almond milk 1$
oats 2$
sugAR 2$

balsamic vinny 3$

It is entirely cheap to be vegan thats 120$ worth of food roughly, most of the pantry staples will last longer than the month, veggies obviously will be bought every 1 -2 weeks depending how much you personally eat.
I am sure i have missed some food items, but it is not expensive to eat vegan thats a huge common misconception
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One of my three kids, an 18 year old twin girl and horse trainer has gone vegan. We love animals but I'm not vegan. This stuff on RIU is both interesting and hilarious at times.
 
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