Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize


What are your goals? I'm a med grower and am looking of good CBD.
Headstash or Money? Not money
Is stank a problem? (I moved to CA with my cuts. I tried to do a round of Blueberry and the smell was out of control. Bike cops smelled the garden and I had a brief freak out. No more making cuts for the dispensary... lol sorry but gotta watch the plant count.) Not an issue.
What's your style? Indica vs hybrd vs Sativa?Indica, indica/sativa no more than 60/40

I grow for some med clients and myself a card holder. I don't get paid for it, not a big deal or cost to me.
 
woodsmaneh! said:

What are your goals? I'm a med grower and am looking of good CBD.
Headstash or Money? Not money
Is stank a problem? (I moved to CA with my cuts. I tried to do a round of Blueberry and the smell was out of control. Bike cops smelled the garden and I had a brief freak out. No more making cuts for the dispensary... lol sorry but gotta watch the plant count.) Not an issue.
What's your style? Indica vs hybrd vs Sativa?Indica, indica/sativa no more than 60/40

I grow for some med clients and myself a card holder. I don't get paid for it, not a big deal or cost to me.
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Thanks for the reply. Blueberry from DJ is one of the more medicinal varieties I've tried. The high is balanced, leaning towards indica, and lasts noticeably longer than other herb.

The BBxNL hybrids make fantastic hash, and are sedative, but also not as tasty as the blueberry.
 
Matt Rize said:
Yes, I have heard of subculture. GH is a local company for me and I've talked with the owner about the organic line.

IMO start with the M, then switch to M/B when you have a good root system established.
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Thanks, ill just use the M for my first batch of tea then. I am using the organic lineup as well, also supposed to be veganic but im sure you know. I have had good results with that lineup and am a firm beliver in putting in good quality organic nutrients to get out good quality organic buds.
 
So, bioboost from 1 to 4 weeks via foliar feed (searched the thread and that's what i got)? I'm ten days in, so a bit late, what do you think would be the latest time to use it as a foliar feed? Mold issues aside.
 
upthearsenal said:
So, bioboost from 1 to 4 weeks via foliar feed (searched the thread and that's what i got)? I'm ten days in, so a bit late, what do you think would be the latest time to use it as a foliar feed? Mold issues aside.
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It can't hurt, at any point in the life cycle. Kushman has been using the bioboost in small amounts in veg too. I stick to one good fertigation with it, and heavy foliar.
 
Right on, do you ever mix either the vega and flores in the same solution as the boost? I'm sure it's not an issue, but would I be killing two birds with one application? The cold temps here are causing my soil to take a while to dry, so I want to foliar feed with vega & boost and catch up with these plant's needs.

I'm also thinking of using the boost on some clones, and leaving out on others just to get an idea of what the differences are... and if I can tell a difference.
 
upthearsenal said:
Right on, do you ever mix either the vega and flores in the same solution as the boost? I'm sure it's not an issue, but would I be killing two birds with one application? The cold temps here are causing my soil to take a while to dry, so I want to foliar feed with vega & boost and catch up with these plant's needs.

I'm also thinking of using the boost on some clones, and leaving out on others just to get an idea of what the differences are... and if I can tell a difference.
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Yes, I mix vega and flores in with the bioboost, especially when feeding the soil. I'll give a little extra K with the seaweed. And a little extra P/Ca with the HN 0-10. But beware, that vegan plant food is perfect for mold and mildew to grow on if they stay wet too long. I like to spray when the lights first turn on, and make sure to have the de-hue running.

Side by side on cuttings? ... you won't notice much with the eye is my guess, but keep track for the entire life and see if there is any qualitative difference. I need to run some side by side action myself. Think of testing when to switch to HPS from MH, or maybe if switching back to MH at the end makes a difference.
 
baldhead said:
Bacteria multiplies in compost tea.
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yes, that is very important and often misunderstood. Many think that compost tea is brewing endomycorrhizal fungi, but in fact that is not that case. Endomycorrhizal fungi inoculants are introduced via spores. These spores do not "sprout" unless in contact with a root. There are no roots in compost tea. Bacteria will most likely eat the endomycorrhizal spores. Aerated Compost Teas are valuable for the life they contain. That is why I use endomycorrhizal inoculants, and then compost tea.
 
Muchas gracias para la informacion.

Whoops didn't specify about the cuttings... yes, in partcular qualitative difference, and taste in the final product.
 
Matt Rize said:
Yes, I mix vega and flores in with the bioboost, especially when feeding the soil. I'll give a little extra K with the seaweed. And a little extra P/Ca with the HN 0-10. But beware, that vegan plant food is perfect for mold and mildew to grow on if they stay wet too long. I like to spray when the lights first turn on, and make sure to have the de-hue running.

Side by side on cuttings? ... you won't notice much with the eye is my guess, but keep track for the entire life and see if there is any qualitative difference. I need to run some side by side action myself. Think of testing when to switch to HPS from MH, or maybe if switching back to MH at the end makes a difference.
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I'd like to see a controlled test... switrching back to MH the last two weeks, with no glass (just bulb). Allow the extra UV. Up the trichome production. Just a thought. If I had the room, I'd rock it now.

Matt - do you feed N in flowering? Do you switch to bloom nutes right when you switch 12/12? Do you do a transition batch of food? Anything special? Do you cut N out completely ever? Just curious man
 
RPsmoke420 said:
I'd like to see a controlled test... switrching back to MH the last two weeks, with no glass (just bulb). Allow the extra UV. Up the trichome production. Just a thought. If I had the room, I'd rock it now.

Matt - do you feed N in flowering? Do you switch to bloom nutes right when you switch 12/12? Do you do a transition batch of food? Anything special? Do you cut N out completely ever? Just curious man
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I slowly transition from Vega to Flores about two weeks in to flower... that's what the feed chart says to do :)
 
matt i think i have a calcium def. i am using the GO organics line. i have feed with calmag twice and haven't seen any improvement. by the way i have been feeding2-2.5 tsp per gal of veg nuts and the recommended light feeding for the other supplements (not using diamond or marine)
 
durbanmistyman said:
matt i think i have a calcium def. i am using the GO organics line. i have feed with calmag twice and haven't seen any improvement. by the way i have been feeding2-2.5 tsp per gal of veg nuts and the recommended light feeding for the other supplements (not using diamond or marine)
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Can we get a picture? I wouldn't doubt a cal or mg deficiency, they are common. Have you tried a foliar spray with some Calcium?
 
durbanmistyman said:
matt i think i have a calcium def. i am using the GO organics line. i have feed with calmag twice and haven't seen any improvement. by the way i have been feeding2-2.5 tsp per gal of veg nuts and the recommended light feeding for the other supplements (not using diamond or marine)
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I am using up the last of my GO bottles myself. I gave it a run on my outdoor this season, have some left overs.

Anyway, I always found that I needed to add the max amount of Ca recommended. I also would add Epsom salt. 1/2 tsp per qt of water. I fought some deficiencies myself.

From what I understand, General Hydro teamed up with BioBizz to make some bottled nutes (GH-BB). They had a falling out. General Hydro then released General Organics. Basically, the same line as BioBizz with a couple differences. Biobizz was well known for having a Mag deficiency, especially in flower. Started making the connection after I fought through it myself.
 
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