Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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NightbirdX said:
So I have been doing some research on mixing my own veganic supersoil and catch a hit off of google and who do I find talking about in on the MedicalMJ forums, but Matt Rize himself, lol. How is that research coming along? Have you guys figured out the alternatives to the Guano, Blood Meal, Fish Meal, and Worm Castings (maybe)?
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lol I've been looking into quality organic replacements. Cottonseed meal (7-2-2) was interesting at first, but the way cotton is grown is generally disgusting, and finding a good organic source of the meal is difficult. Kelp meal is another good meal (1-0-2). Soft rock phosphate is a good P source, but slow to break down. Alfalfa meal, the triacontanol source, is 3-1-2, not too shabby but you have to use this sparingly.

Corn Gluten meal is something I'm looking at right now (9-0-0), but it comes with warning that it will inhibit root growth on seedlings so I have to look way more into it.

Dry molasses is great for building soil 1-0-5, but low in N.
 
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beeznutz

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i need some good enzymes for m'ladies- what do u guys use?
i know about sensizym and hydrozyme, anything else worth looking at?
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Matt Rize said:
how late into flower do you use it? I'm not sure, and they won't tell us what's in it.
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Seriously man, I've always thought that was odd. Is it like a "secret formula" that they don't want to get ripped off or something..?

I mean, if it's "organic" then there should be no shame disclosing the ingredients.
 
S.V.T.

S.V.T.

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Here's how I use the stuff but I think you have to adjust the application rates based on substrate, nutrients, and strain.
veg.
week 1 (rooted clone stage) 2-ml
week 2 2-ml
week 3+ 5-ml

bloom
week 1-2 5-ml
week 3-6 7-10-ml depending on root ball size
week 7-9 I use little to none

I think that using too much hygrozyme late in bloom makes residual nitrogen available and can extend finishing time.

I have no idea what's in it but it is listed as og...
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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I looked it up a little while ago, they seem to love slapping the word secret all over the bottle... It says it's been proven and the description on the site I'm looking at that sells it says it was field tested and such in Cali co-ops, and also by the Pacific Agricultural Research Center and B.C. Research Council chemists.

I might be unsure but it seems like an interesting product, I'd give it a go... even though I find some of their marketing practices slightly humorous. I'd still like to do more research on it though....
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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I use it all the way through, tapering off towards the end. I can see no ill effects, my buds are dank as fuck and I yield well.

Through most of the grow I alternate between Cannazyme and Hygrozyme, using both at around 5-7ml/gallon.
 
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beeznutz

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ended up getting Hygrozyme, it was either that or Sensizym which i really didn't wanna give my money to, that's all they had at the local shop. was not cheap either but the guy recomended to me and in spite of the 'secret formula' which i think it's just a marketing strategy, it seem to be kosher, it is OMRI so.......why not give it a try.
do you guys think it's ok to use it with a water feed or does it have to be added to the nutes?
 
RPsmoke420

RPsmoke420

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I believe Hygrozyme is somewhat of a mix of chitinases, proteases, hydrolases glucanases and cellulase, mostly cellulase. Kinda what I understood anyway.
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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beeznutz said:
ended up getting Hygrozyme, it was either that or Sensizym which i really didn't wanna give my money to, that's all they had at the local shop. was not cheap either but the guy recomended to me and in spite of the 'secret formula' which i think it's just a marketing strategy, it seem to be kosher, it is OMRI so.......why not give it a try.
do you guys think it's ok to use it with a water feed or does it have to be added to the nutes?
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Water feed? Taf?
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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upthearsenal said:
I know what you are referring to and beeznutz is cool, no tafmangs in here.
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clue brother in! wha gwan?

Wolv- Saw you over in icschwag. That one guy you were reading (cc) is one of the four or five people on that site that are very informed, he is probably #1. Beware that site, they moderate strictly for financial reasons, so unless you are talking about something they sell, you had better just not bring it up. I was Matt Rize there, then Thomkal Vwalaa, now I'm decarb :joint:
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Matt Rize said:
clue brother in! wha gwan?

Wolv- Saw you over in icschwag. That one guy you were reading (cc) is one of the four or five people on that site that are very informed, he is probably #1. Beware that site, they moderate strictly for financial reasons, so unless you are talking about something they sell, you had better just not bring it up. I was Matt Rize there, then Thomkal Vwalaa, now I'm decarb :joint:
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Yeah, I meander over there from time to time. There does seem to be some pretty comprehensive info in certain sections, which is why I go. One can really fall down the rabbit hole on certain topics over there, that's for sure. They're my generally my backup when RIU goes down for repairs...

That Chemdog chart is crazy btw.
 
R3DROCk9

R3DROCk9

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i started reading and got to page 11 of this crackpot's ramblings and still havent noticed much about veganic ways..i, too, am running biocanna and am having some defiiency problems....wanted to see sumone's own run with their line, bu all that shows up on here is a a huge runaround....can sum1 plz direct mHe to post numbers or page numbers thatget down to the nitty?? i dont care about the veganic debate...i jus want sum facts like what to run and what to supplement.....and what works for tem.....wutever....not this poo talk back andforth....shyt gets old after a while....jus fuHkin say wut your doin, wut your experienceing, and what to expect WTF
 
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