Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

I personally had terrible results in coco and ended up retransplanting into organic soil. I wrote canna about this and they said that their bio line was absolutely not compatible with coco and if you wanted to use coco, then just use the coco a + b nutrient line.
 
NightbirdX said:
I personally had terrible results in coco and ended up retransplanting into organic soil. I wrote canna about this and they said that their bio line was absolutely not compatible with coco and if you wanted to use coco, then just use the coco a + b nutrient line.
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Thats whats up. Same fail for me when trying coconot (redwood bark). Organic soil all the way. I find my biocanna works better with extra micros and calmag in the mix, in the form of earth worm castings and dolomite lime.
 
Thanks guys, I think I might wait a round until I start up in soil for the first time. Matt- what do you think of Subcools super soil, I was thinking of starting a batch up to 'cook' for a few days as said in directions for the mix. Or do you have some recipes that might work better?
 
veen said:
Thanks guys, I think I might wait a round until I start up in soil for the first time. Matt- what do you think of Subcools super soil, I was thinking of starting a batch up to 'cook' for a few days as said in directions for the mix. Or do you have some recipes that might work better?
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The recipe depends on how you want to grow. Sub's super is a good way to go. I use a less amended mix and some bottled nutes. Many folks just use a bagged potting mix and feed with bottled nutes full time. What do you want to do?
 
veen said:
Hey Matt

I was wondering about your thoughts on using a veganic nute line such as 'general organics' with straight coco coir? Would treating it like hydro by handwatering to runoff daily work the same as a soilless media mix that is handwatered periodically? I have grown in straight coco for 4 years now with synthetic/mineral nutrients. This is all new to me but am extremely interested.
Any links, info or answers to my specific question would be AWESOME.
PEace
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First run with GO 80/20 coco /perlite (well flushed perlite). So far it is looking like the best grow yet, plants are not stretching and they are super stinky, this Agent Orange smells like cream soda and jack daniels. 30 ish days.

Sorry piss poor photo


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UFEELIT? said:
Hey has anyone tried these bio thrive grow/bloom nutrients and how are they??? feed back would be great =D?
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If you read this here thread, you'll find much info on that very nutrient line. Also, if you use the search function there are several other threads dedicated to that line. I use it, it's great stuff. You don't have to pH anything, just give it and go...
 
Alright, so after 2 weeks of reading I reached the end.
I am growing in super soil, using ACT, Hygrozyme, and Fulvic acid.

In the past I fed hygrozyme with plain water, fed the MadFarmer NUTS with my nutrients, then mixed a tea, and started over with plain water and hygrozyme.
Should I be mixing the hygrozyme with my fulvic, with my macros and micros in my nutrient solution ?

I do Feed, Tea, Water, so if I can add the hygrozyme or fulvic in with the tea or water feeding it would help spread out the things I am giving to my girls..
 
mcone said:
Alright, so after 2 weeks of reading I reached the end.
I am growing in super soil, using ACT, Hygrozyme, and Fulvic acid.

In the past I fed hygrozyme with plain water, fed the MadFarmer NUTS with my nutrients, then mixed a tea, and started over with plain water and hygrozyme.
Should I be mixing the hygrozyme with my fulvic, with my macros and micros in my nutrient solution ?

I do Feed, Tea, Water, so if I can add the hygrozyme or fulvic in with the tea or water feeding it would help spread out the things I am giving to my girls..
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I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. I think you can just alternate between teas with fulvic, and hygrozyme.
 
Kathy Curtis said:
Is its good for immunodeficient individuals?
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Is what good for immunodeficient people?... marijuana? I would say yes. In general cannabinoids, the biologically active stuff in marijuana, are good for everyone, but please be more specific.

First off I just want to say welome to rollitup.org. My name is matt rize, I work and teach in the medical cannabis field in california. I'm no legal scholar or doctor, but I'll do my best to answer any questions you have. Feel free to send my a private message once you have enough posts.
 
Matt Rize said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. I think you can just alternate between teas with fulvic, and hygrozyme.
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Ok let me try and re-ask the question more coherently since InI havnt been smoking bubble in the last 20 minutes this time around, hehe

InI have started using hygrozyme and fulvic acid in my organic grow.

InI am worried about burning or stunting my plants by adding both of these products when InI apply my full strength feeding with nutrients.

SO here is my question, professand matt;

To achieve the maximum benefit from these products is it nessecary to add both these items (fulvic and hygrozyme) with the nutrient application or can InI
A) Add them with the plain watering
B) Add them with the Bountea feeding
C) maybe its better to use a little hygrozyme in every mix, or maybe that is how I should apply the fulvic..

InI have no idea what the best way to integrate them into my schedule is and if they should even be used in the same application. The madfarmer NUTS says use with every watering, bout that seems sketchy. Please advise bredren.
Thanks
Peace :leaf:
 
As far as the broad spectrum immunodeficient question at hand,
I propose that because of the believed lower heavy metal (not music) content (matt might have facts here) that veganics would certainly be much better for someone who's immune system is already down and out than cannabis that has been pumped with chemicals because those chem residues are just more the body has to deal with, either smoked or ingested.

Peace
 
mcone said:
Ok let me try and re-ask the question more coherently since InI havnt been smoking bubble in the last 20 minutes this time around, hehe

InI have started using hygrozyme and fulvic acid in my organic grow.

InI am worried about burning or stunting my plants by adding both of these products when InI apply my full strength feeding with nutrients.

SO here is my question, professand matt;

To achieve the maximum benefit from these products is it nessecary to add both these items (fulvic and hygrozyme) with the nutrient application or can InI
A) Add them with the plain watering
B) Add them with the Bountea feeding
C) maybe its better to use a little hygrozyme in every mix, or maybe that is how I should apply the fulvic..

InI have no idea what the best way to integrate them into my schedule is and if they should even be used in the same application. The madfarmer NUTS says use with every watering, bout that seems sketchy. Please advise bredren.
Thanks
Peace :leaf:
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I would feel good adding some fulvic to your teas, at the end of brewing, but not hygrozyme. I would add the -zymes separately from the teas, with your plain waterings. You really can use lots of the fulvics and humics without any side affects.
 
mcone said:
As far as the broad spectrum immunodeficient question at hand,
I propose that because of the believed lower heavy metal (not music) content (matt might have facts here) that veganics would certainly be much better for someone who's immune system is already down and out than cannabis that has been pumped with chemicals because those chem residues are just more the body has to deal with, either smoked or ingested.

Peace
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Yes, if the question is about organic/veganic marijuana versus chemically grown marijuana, I would say the organic is much better for us, especially for immunocompromised people.
 
Matt Rize said:
I would feel good adding some fulvic to your teas, at the end of brewing, but not hygrozyme. I would add the -zymes separately from the teas, with your plain waterings. You really can use lots of the fulvics and humics without any side affects.
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So I have been adding Humega in on my "flush" weeks. Basically, I feed for 2-3weeks and then do a light flush and reinocculation. Should I maybe add Humega in during my feed cycles to help break down what is being fed, or use it on a flush cycle to eat what is left over?
 
NightbirdX said:
So I have been adding Humega in on my "flush" weeks. Basically, I feed for 2-3weeks and then do a light flush and reinocculation. Should I maybe add Humega in during my feed cycles to help break down what is being fed, or use it on a flush cycle to eat what is left over?
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The humega helps make what is already in your nutes more available to the plants. I use humic/fulvic all the time.
 
Good to know. I was thinking of just amending my soil with some Ancient Forest. I try to amend everything but nutes in my soilless run. Do you think a healthy dose of Ancient Forest would give enough humic to take it out of my feeding regimen?
 
NightbirdX said:
Good to know. I was thinking of just amending my soil with some Ancient Forest. I try to amend everything but nutes in my soilless run. Do you think a healthy dose of Ancient Forest would give enough humic to take it out of my feeding regimen?
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Possibly, Im not sure how high the humic levels are in the Ancient Forest. It wont hurt thats for sure
 
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