this is DRUG ABUSE! lol jk hope your outdoors/ greenhouse do as well as this room!demolition of the sealed room. drill + sawzall + crow bar
Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize
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Matt Rize
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I'm thinking I'll put the tents up for moms under T5, and build a giant light dep greenhouse.It definitely sucks demolishing your old room. So many good memoriesalso you forgot... Drill + sawzall + crowbar = FUN! Can't wait to see what you do with your new room
some of the gear will come in handy.
NightbirdX
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So no more indoor for Matt? I wish I could just build greenhouses. Would be so much easier, lol. Ahh to wish.
+ WitchDoctor +
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Actually I fix stuff that's not broken all the time, lol. And thanks for the input, I actually copy/pasted that from when I had typed it out for a double batch, and forgot to divide those amounts in half. I'm making a batch tomorrow and to be honest I probably would have made it just like that if you wouldn't have pointed it out to me. Which makes me an asshole for posting it twice on this site in a week....lol. So it's actually..
Soilless Mix= aprox. 30 gallons
Dolomite lime –1 cups
Neem cake – 1 cups
Karanja cake – 1 cups
Mykos – 1 cups
Coffee/tea grounds – 1 cups
Epsom salt – ¼ up
Greensand – 1 cups
Banana Bark – 2 cups (at least)
¼ bale of compressed coco chips
2 bales compressed coco fibers
2 gallons peat
3 gallons EWC
2 gallons worm compost
...any ideas about my question about the high PK worm compost man? I was hoping someone would at least have some thoughts on it before I invest..
'ome Grown
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give it a go and let us know.
My gut feeling was that EWC and worm compost would be very similar...but if the worm compost has a high PK, then might as well give it a roll.
My gut feeling was that EWC and worm compost would be very similar...but if the worm compost has a high PK, then might as well give it a roll.
Bird Gymnastics
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Sounds like a good plan to me. T5 FTW, at least for mothersI'm thinking I'll put the tents up for moms under T5, and build a giant light dep greenhouse.
the greenhouse will be awesome. Time to step the wax game up lol
Wolverine97
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Sorry, I'm not too sure on high p/k castings other than adjusting the worms diet. I wouldn't worry about that, if you have a healthy soil and sufficient quantities of everything needed the microbes and root exudates will handle the rest.
NightbirdX
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My soil blend is coming along nicely Wolverine. I think I got it down to just about everything except nutrients, and I have an organic soil mix that I have been working on for veg is just about right, now I need to decide which one I want to run with, lol. Both are very nice and have their perks, just waiting to do some test results from finished product.
Da Almighty Jew
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Will you be able to make your outdoor as good as your indoor?
I think its a myth that outdoor cant be as good as indoor, what do you think?
Wolverine97
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Are you still using pro-mix as your base? I'm real curious to know what all you're using now, as I'm still not 100% satisfied with mine. I've adjusted what I'm using quite a bit since we last talked, but the consistency isn't quite where I want it. I still get issues with gnats riding in on bags of soil too, so I'm really considering switching my base back to pro-mix.
That plushberry you posted in the other thread is pretty fucking epic looking btw... still haven't cracked mine.
Wolverine97
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I know. I don't use FF unless I'm in a major pinch.
NightbirdX
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I have a soilless which I will be using Pro-Mix as my base again. I used Humboldt Mix, and you want to talk about gnats... They brought a regiment hidden in the dirt. I won't be using any other soilless besides Pro-Mix from now on. I never had gnats with Pro-Mix.
My Organic soil mix is HF/OF based, though I think I will be only using OF from now on. My soil mix is basically the same. I still need to go pick up some stuff, might do it tomorrow. The amendments don't change between the mixes, just the base. The HF OF blend, i can run about half my nutrient load on and they still do great. It isn't quite water only yet. But I will be adding some other amendments to it make it so to try again. I'm currently testing the Organic mix vs the soilless mix to see about the quality and yield, and how comparable. Then if I can iron out the nutrient load, I'll veg in that, flower in super soil and do a comparison to see how well they do. The testing never ends... lol. It is just hard to walk away from my soilless mix because it just keeps getting better and better. If it isn't broke, dont fix it. All I have to add is BioCanna to it and it is good. I add some Roots excelurator, humboldt honey, biobud, and bio boost, as additives. But as for adding cal mag, micro, etc. My soil has been doing really well in providing all of that. I just top dress with lime and innoculate each month and its good.
Ya that Plushberry is really nice. I'll see about bringing a sample.
I did a test smoke on it yesterday and it was POTENT. The flavor isn't quite as good, but man, letting it go that extra week, really made it stoney. A half a j, put me in a chair for an hour. Very creative and thought stimulating, but I didn't want to move, lol. I will prob only take it to 60-63 days from here on out though as I love the smell and flavor of it, and want to preserve that a bit more.
Wolverine97
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Looking forward to it birdman...I have a soilless which I will be using Pro-Mix as my base again. I used Humboldt Mix, and you want to talk about gnats... They brought a regiment hidden in the dirt. I won't be using any other soilless besides Pro-Mix from now on. I never had gnats with Pro-Mix.
My Organic soil mix is HF/OF based, though I think I will be only using OF from now on. My soil mix is basically the same. I still need to go pick up some stuff, might do it tomorrow. The amendments don't change between the mixes, just the base. The HF OF blend, i can run about half my nutrient load on and they still do great. It isn't quite water only yet. But I will be adding some other amendments to it make it so to try again. I'm currently testing the Organic mix vs the soilless mix to see about the quality and yield, and how comparable. Then if I can iron out the nutrient load, I'll veg in that, flower in super soil and do a comparison to see how well they do. The testing never ends... lol. It is just hard to walk away from my soilless mix because it just keeps getting better and better. If it isn't broke, dont fix it. All I have to add is BioCanna to it and it is good. I add some Roots excelurator, humboldt honey, biobud, and bio boost, as additives. But as for adding cal mag, micro, etc. My soil has been doing really well in providing all of that. I just top dress with lime and innoculate each month and its good.
Ya that Plushberry is really nice. I'll see about bringing a sample.
+ WitchDoctor +
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View attachment 2755.jpgHere's a pic of my Vegan White Widows about 3 weeks into flower. Finally finished the tents so I can start paying more attention to the plants again...can't believe how much brighter it is over the plants in there now though! Reflecting all that light back makes a HUGE difference.
How long do you guys that are using Humboldt Natural Bloom for P use it in flower for?? I've been using it for about 4 weeks, I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't be beneficial for me to use it longer.
How long do you guys that are using Humboldt Natural Bloom for P use it in flower for?? I've been using it for about 4 weeks, I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't be beneficial for me to use it longer.
trichmasta
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Looking good witch doctor! I use and love the Humboldt bloom as a flower boost teamed with Technaflora Soluble Seaweed. I start raising P and K above normal regimen week 4. I start with 5 ml/gal, increasing to 10. I like to keep that up till week 6. Sativa's a week longer
So yes keep rocking it!
+ WitchDoctor +
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Thanks! I start with HN Bloom at the end of my second week and then usually till the end of the fourth...maybe I'll try going an extra week and see how they like it. I start off at 5 and work up to 10-15 as well. I used to use the Technaflora Soluble Seaweed, but now my cooked/ground banana peels cover me there. I've been using what I have up on transplants though.
+ WitchDoctor +
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Well what I'm talking about trying to do is use the compost as my PK source during flowering so that I can stop or use significantly less Rock Phosphate. I've got a list of NPK values for hundreds of different fruit and vegetable peel ashes, so I'm hoping that if I use only food waste that has high PK values in the worm compost, that after they break it down it will still retain those high values and can just be used in the soil, or even used as a tea. Since nobody seems to have any idea and I can't find any actual information on doing this, I'm going to give it a shot now I guess. It'll be fun.
Thanks man, I'm gonna do it. I'll order another worm setup and a couple lbs of worms tomorrow. As soon as it comes I'll get a batch of compost working and start a journal with some fresh cuttings. As long as I can finish the Blue Dreams I've got going right now without getting mites (which I've been repeatedly warned about with this strain) I'm gonna do those again I think, so by the time they are ready to flower the compost will be ready to use and I'll do a side by side.
would love to see that side by side witchdoctor - makes sense in theory, but like you said no backup info to be found!
What are you guys averaging with veganics? I had issues and was real sad to see just 1oz to 2oz in 5gal buckets, now i got some weight with some real happy ladies and pullin down the first bogbubbles this week, lookin' to be about 3oz each for sure, i'd be real happy with 4oz, ripe @ 46 days, and a couple of God buds that pushed 6feet tall i think will do 5oz easy, they'll go another couple weeks to like 65 days i'm sure.
What are you guys averaging with veganics? I had issues and was real sad to see just 1oz to 2oz in 5gal buckets, now i got some weight with some real happy ladies and pullin down the first bogbubbles this week, lookin' to be about 3oz each for sure, i'd be real happy with 4oz, ripe @ 46 days, and a couple of God buds that pushed 6feet tall i think will do 5oz easy, they'll go another couple weeks to like 65 days i'm sure.