Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

kingofqueen said:
Right on ! He does have some great pictures I checked him out and the mission statement there is clear and concise as to explaining what vegan organics actually is . Pretty interesting over all I think . But I also think it,s kinda of an advanced technique . I,m just do " Simple "
organics I like to call it . Organic based soil with kelp based organic fertilizer . I,m still learning but having some good sucess to this point with my current grow. There are some many how ,why ,this and that diff ways people push trying to grow , so I,m keeping it simple and learing to read my plants . Less is more ! and less varibles to try to control .
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Or you can check out kushmanveganics.com, he has some hi-def images and video going on. Similar system, but a few big differences.
 
well it seems the other thread got closed,
so i will ask a question here if u dont mind...
how do u thin out ur hash?do u do it while its still wet?
i also like the idea of the "fruit roll up" storage
 
moash said:
well it seems the other thread got closed,
so i will ask a question here if u dont mind...
how do u thin out ur hash?do u do it while its still wet?
i also like the idea of the "fruit roll up" storage
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YES, sorry about the other thread closing, we had some good stuff going on there, but some stoners are really sensitive. I heard marijuana can cause delayed emotional maturity...lol...

There are two ways I do the fruit roll up thing. Preferably, I lay it out thin like that when it is wet. If I want to make a fruit roll up after the fact I will have to use a rolling pin and a little heat. More to follow on fruit roll up hash, if it I won't get locked for talking about hash in the organic forum...


Let's move the hash techniques to my new school thread, and keep this one about PLANT BASED NUTRITION.
https://www.rollitup.org/organics/370730-new-school-organics-professor-matt.html

ps. hey moash, i truly appreciate how we can argue one day and share techniques the next. You continually show what it means to "be the bigger man", and IMO you should be one of the mods. Peas.
 

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EDIT: OK I read more of this thread and now see you are talking about indoor growing. I agree with you in that I don't think it's really possible to truly grow organically indoors, and I appreciate what you are doing here. However, It still sounds like you're on This Bio Canna company's payroll. Also it looks like this thread doesn't have much to do with that other one, so my comments on energy work and plants don't really fit here. I guess I'll retract this whole post, but I'll leave the original text up for any that want to read it. I said it and it was wrong but I'll stand by it because I don't believe in just covering up my mistakes.



I didn't read this whole thread, but to be honest it sounds like you are pushing a particular line of nutrients... Commercially produced using electricity, placed into plastic bottles, shipped using fossil fuels... This is not vegan. I can get on board with the no animal products thing, but the very most important thing you could be doing rather than pouring something out of a bottle is producing your own living compost or vermicompost. You will not get better results out of anything. All of the organic nutrients that you can buy are simply quick and dirty ways to get something resembling what a good, healthy compost pile will produce.

I'm sorry, but I'm not trying to flame or troll.

On another note, I did see the other thread that listed a whole bunch of different "new school organics" things, and saw that you had things such as talking to the plants, music, crystals, etc. I'm personally trained in energy work for healing and therapy on human and animal systems, and, while I couldnt' give you scientific results, I will say my plants have definitely responded very well when I do energy work on them. I have not, however, tried anything along the lines of cleansing and charging a giant hunk of quartz crystal and putting it next to them, but that would be an interesting experiment and I thank you for the idea.
 
Actually you are wrong. The whole GO line was pulled. Mislabeling the product..... They have the magical "vegan" word on them too......

This doesn't mean these product will not work, it just means they aren't telling you what is actually in the product. I'm sure people have had good results, I tried some samples and didn't see any problems. Just trying to give people a heads up.

Organics and bottles....meh.......No thanks.
 
plaguedog said:
Actually you are wrong. The whole GO line was pulled. Mislabeling the product..... They have the magical "vegan" word on them too......

This doesn't mean these product will not work, it just means they aren't telling you what is actually in the product. I'm sure people have had good results, I tried some samples and didn't see any problems. Just trying to give people a heads up.

Organics and bottles....meh.......No thanks.
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Thanks for the correct p-dog. GO needs to get on top of that, sha! And I totally hear what you mean about bottled organics.
 
plaguedog said:
Yeah some of them are just unregistered is all. I am sure they are working on it. Here is the link:

http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/stopsales.shtml
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Thanks, seen this link on a few threads here. At least Bio Canna isn't on the list, not that this list is the end all/be all in ferts. In fact, nothing I've been promoting on here is on that list. (AND IM NOT PAID BY ANY OF THESE COMPANIES, maybe I should be :) )

So...why are so many companies not registered in Oregon?
 
plaguedog said:
Because the standard in Oregon is about the highest you can get in growing. Look at all the AN rip off products........
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I despise AN, for their unannounced formula changes (bud candy sucks now) and their demeaning images. Promote positive canna-culture. Go Oregon.
 
karri0n said:
What is AN? what do you mean by demeaning images?
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AN stands for Advanced Nutrients, sorry thread slang. Demeaning images...google wet betty. It was okay until one of the students totally called me out for having a bottle of it on display. If the adult women students have a problem with it, then it is gone. Raspect
 
upthearsenal said:
will i kill off beneficial bacteria if i use a bit of H2O2 in my waterings?
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Gosh, that is a great question. I wish I had some facts to back up a reply. H2O2 is deadly to micro-organisms, as a general rule. "A bit" is where I can't say for sure, it's not like you are flushing your hydro with straight H2O2 or any of that. I stopped using it when I started using all of the soluble microbes. But, when I clone I like to soak my cuts in a water/peroxide mix (old school!).

Can I ask why you like to add H2O2 to your res? For the oxygen boost to the rhizosphere?
 
okay, so if you say res i think hydroponic res. i add it to my hydro res for many reasons, i also add it to my tap water to get rid of the chlorine quickly. i just became a habit, and then it hit me...

i've also been having pH problems, and i think it's because of this.

also, what about adding apple cider vinegar to your water to drop pH?
 
upthearsenal said:
okay, so if you say res i think hydroponic res. i add it to my hydro res for many reasons, i also add it to my tap water to get rid of the chlorine quickly. i just became a habit, and then it hit me...

i've also been having pH problems, and i think it's because of this.

also, what about adding apple cider vinegar to your water to drop pH?
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Sorry, res is an old habit. I meant the container from which you water your plants. Wait...we are talking about feeding pots full of dirt or hydro?

pH problems...i could see that being linked to H2O2, and the peroxide interacting with hydronium ions in solution.

apple cider vinegar (my favorite vinegar bc its local here) will work to lower your pH. But I've found that it will not keep the pH adjusted, and the pH will slowly return to tap pH. HAS ANYONE ELSE FOUND THIS TO BE TRUE?

Not a fan of citric acid to adjust pH?

Peroxide to get rid of chlorine, that is genius. Never thought of that. But I do try to have my water drawn a day before feeding with it. I can't imagine that a mL or two of peroxide is going to wipe out the microbes.
 
i'm referring to my soil. i've added dolomite lime recently, and i figure the ACV will drop the pH, and the dolomite will stabilize it. i've never had pH problems and this is really lame.
 
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