Vertical stadium HPS+LED - TGA Apollo 11,Cheese Quake,Ace of Spades,9 other strains

Senseimilla

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Finally turned on the other LED -- went from not enough room under the light to more than enough -- yay! Tied down BB2/BB1/Romulan/Sparkle - seedlings and cuts are about ready for more water - lower left flower cuts, lower right seedlings, top left Big Red, middle the big cuts, very back is revegging Black cherry soda (tho i got a cut so i don't really need her but why not i've never done a harvest reveg)
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Genius x Deep Chunks after trimming big fan leaves - these should do a bit better on yield as you can see the stalks are falling over from being heavy... see these in the 1 - 1.5oz range (crossing fingers)
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I added these to my drying expiriment as - whole plant/big fans trimmed/upright and whole plant/big fans trimmed/upside down
 

Senseimilla

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Smoov!! :) I only tried a small nug from the BCS though... real disappointed on yields, but that's what i get with going with small pots, no super soil and a new setup... :( live and learn... i'm also wondering if maybe my second timer isn't causing a light leak (i caught it coming on outside dark hours one time)... i really need to take it out and get a digital... that would definitely cause both the herms and the lack of flower progress
 

SOMEBEECH

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So you think yield was greatly effected by pot size? Also whats the cost of making Supersoil....Didnt sub make this back in 2008?


Beech
 

Senseimilla

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Sub's super soil is just a modified version of vic's super soil recipe from earlier, but it's his take. Making super soil is way cheaper than buying liquid nutes. The soil (which you're buying anyway) and wormcastings (which i always buy and put in anyway) are the most expensive parts. The amendments are all relatively cheap and usually will last you several batches of super soil. I am definitely not spending the $30+/mo on super soil amendments that I am on liquid nutes -- all I bought this time was wormcastings and guano -- everything else I still had from january, and i still have enough for a few more batches of most items. But a $20 bag of castings and a $8 bag of guano along with the rest of what I already have will make super soil for months... liquid nutes are around $15/bottle and I use AT LEAST 1 of each veg & flower/month... often 4 since i get the compost tea veg/flower & regular veg/flower nutes... so that's closer to $60/mo for nutes... and maybe $30-50 every 3 or 4 months and another $30-50 once a year. if i shopped around and bought more in bulk i'm sure i could save more... which is what i'll probably be working on doing

i think the yields were hit by small pots, plants needed more veg time + liquid nutes instead of super soil... and i think i didn't give'em enough nutes in early flower. The ones that yielded more didn't burn through their N in the first 4 weeks like the others :) But yeah multiple factors... I'm probably gonna go non-vertical next flower and rethink my vertical approach before returning to it... maybe get a light mover too :) But the kind of plants i'm working on now won't be great for those shelves and i need yields so gotta go back to horizontal and return to my previous methods that did soooo much better. I'm only putting monster bushes into flower from now on in super soil... screw that :) first one goes in this weekend... back to all LED for big red. Blueberry #2 will probably be all LED as well and then the other 3 I'll probably put under the horizontal HPS to compare yields. Going to order more pots... i'm thinking of going bigger than 5 gallons for the future flowerers. In fact one I'm looking at is 23 gallons :) imagine the crazy beast i could grow in there.... Big red is gonna go into flower this weekend probably sunday after I've harvested the rest of the plants in there for november and take the first shelf out.

Hey owl you know you're dieing to come over here, help me take that shelf out and smoke some black cherry soda ;) it's good shit i'm still decently stoned from a few hours ago.... and it hasn't even cured yet.
 

Senseimilla

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Nah it's alright I'm just gonna detach the shelves from the end pieces after that I can carry it myself easily I need to do that anyway as the shelves need a couple of extra bolts put in if I end up using them again... for now they are gonna go in the storage building.

Finally got my recycling project going fully earlier... I got all the used pots up to now with their dirt dumped into a trashcan, rootballs broken up, branches cut into small pieces and watered in... gonna let it sit to break that stuff down a month then dump it out and mix it up then put it back in and water again if needed... repeat again month after but add amendments and let it sit another month... then gonna try some out if it's broken down enough. Hopefully it will.

Transplanted the 3 revegged cuttings into 1.5 gallon pots... going to put the timewreck/chernobyl seedlings into 1.5 gallon pots this evening -- they are about ready. i decided to hold off on the reveg cuttings that haven't resumed growth yet. i made a pretty strong but non-hot organic veg mix so hopefully they can handle it... it's pretty similar to what i put in the older cuttings pots, but maybe a bit more N.
 

Senseimilla

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Big red is in flower... she is looking great... transplant did not slow her down one bit. She looks... flawless. Hope she stays that way and produces yield beyond comprehension. Tomorrow morning going to take out the shelf, redo the LEDs for big red, water the december girls and maybe repot some... I still have a few more seedlings to repot... now that big red's out I have room for them :) All the november flower girls are out... 2 are hanging upside down whole and untrimmed (i found this one produced the best smell upon trimming of cut plants) -- 3 in smaller pots are going to do the dry til ya die in the dark method -- they are all very low on water already and one is mostly wilted due to lack of water.

Ace of Spades #5 close ups... in a jar and trimmed now
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Big Red on the way into flower... owl says the other pics don't do it justice... that's a 5 gallon jug of water and the dispenser behind it for comparison purposes. Canopy is about 3 ft2 now... she's going to be a monster, definitely will be the biggest i've ever grown
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Cheesequake flower cut revegged and transplanted into a new home so it can grow... I think in the future I'm gonna go veg cuts mostly... which reminds me I gotta take cuts of big red tomorrow morning :)
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Veg room before taking big red out... updated rearranged shot coming later
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Senseimilla

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Got into the flower room and rearranged everything... took the first shelf out and put it in the garage, put big red in the corner (no one puts baby in the corner!) Took cuts off big red and the big cheese. So many big red cuts -- 16 total... tho 2 or 3 were pretty small cuts doubtful they'll survive but got a wide variety of stem sizes basically trimmed it up/lollipopped it and took every growth shoot that was down in shade with no chance of getting to the top. Pics below are before taking cuts, but since i didn't take anything that wasn't going to the top, there's almost no visual difference.

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New flower arrangement
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Grape apollo
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New haven kush (blue cheese x lush)
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Theowl

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Sorry I been out. Damn F1 is causing me a lot of hassles. Gonna try and get some pics and update my thread by tomorrow eve.
 

Senseimilla

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Nah no worries. I stayed home til f1 was over so had more time to work on the grow than usual. So much to do it really is getting outta hand but also just a busy time. I hope a lot of those big red cuts take... i'm using the heat mat again hope it doesn't fry'em all - i put an extra towel underneath this time and sealed the dome well. i'm keeping 'em in my room this time which means i'll be able to keep up with them really well for adverse conditions :) Anything 50% or better as far as roots I'll be happy with. 8 cuts of big red would be almost perfect... i could flower out four and have four extras to give away :) By the time they are ready for next flower hopefully i'll have it dialed back in with the super soil and LEDs and be busting out tons of black cherry soda ace of spades :) The stems are funny too after they're stripped... alternating purple and green stripes a few inches long like a zebra. i'm just crossing my fingers that I have good results with the super soil and LEDs like my first harvest this year and big red puts out crazy #s. I really think if i get similar results to 1st round this year i'll be getting over 6oz from her. If she gets 1/8th per growth shoot it will be AT LEAST 6oz. But as long as I get over 4, it won't be a disappointment :) if I get less than 4 off a bigger bush than I got 4 on earlier this year I'm gonna be confused :)

The NHK and grape apollo and a couple others are the only ones that look like they're going to finish in 8 weeks.... everything else looks like 10-12 weeks for december, which is a real problem since i'm gonna be gone the last 10 days of the month and I only scheduled 9-10 weeks for them to finish before the trip :)

Just ordered a high output ozone generator for the flower room... the uvonair in there is not cutting it... i'm gonna put it in the veg room... hoping that resolves my lingering smell issues... would be nice if it showed up before family decides to come visit (sister coming into town tuesday... she's never been to my house before so decent chance she may want to come by and take a tour... not sure what i do if that happens ;) uhhh... those rooms are for storage... we don't go in them never ever EVER)
 

Senseimilla

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yeah... i shot the sheriff... but i didn't shoot no deputy

got your text void BB2 is next up for flower i'm still vegging her out so she has more to take cuts from should be early december i'm guessing... i need lotsa branches to make up for the high failure rate ;) she's due for watering in the morning... maybe she'll get some big girl fertilizer tomorrow... i need to set the alarm early so i can get up and finish the things i didn't get done on the grow in the morning :)
 

Voidling

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I've got a couple Apollo cuts starting to put out roots. I don't think I can put them in my flower cab as the current ones will block out their light. And the roots tangled so I can't rearrange them. Oh well. Maybe I can flower the current plant under 4 cfl lights? That's all I've got to work with. Using my veg aside to flower her. But then have to put the clones elsewhere
 
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