Video of Blackwater Contractors Driving Over Iraqi Woman

laughingduck said:

Not second rate, but it is one of the ways the world weeds out the DUMB SHITS! Your mama taught you to look both ways before you cross the street, didn't she?

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i see your point but theres two sides to that story, you can call her a dumbass or you can call the driver a dumbass. they both made a fatal mistake, if anything the drivers a dumbass for not stopping. even if it is an order to not stop, that woman can tell people what happened to her an spread the bad name about our soldiers. people over there know the atrocities we've committed over there already, and much like we judge all of them to be part of taliban they now think of us as arrogant savages. theres no excuse to not help out a fellow human being, especially if you caused the problem.

crazyhazey said:

i see your point but theres two sides to that story, you can call her a dumbass or you can call the driver a dumbass. they both made a fatal mistake, if anything the drivers a dumbass for not stopping. even if it is an order to not stop, that woman can tell people what happened to her an spread the bad name about our soldiers. people over there know the atrocities we've committed over there already, and much like we judge all of them to be part of taliban they now think of us as arrogant savages. theres no excuse to not help out a fellow human being, especially if you caused the problem.

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All the more reason to get out of there quick, fast and in a hurry. The longer we stay the worse it gets. It puts innocent Americans who travel abroad lives at risk.

Moses Mobetta said:

All the more reason to get out of there quick, fast and in a hurry. The longer we stay the worse it gets. It puts innocent Americans who travel abroad lives at risk.

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agreed, we've left a horrible impression of our country over there, and there would be no way to change their minds. american-izing iraq is not the answer, their culture differs from ours, we have different values. we're doing pretty much the same things the red coats did a couple centuries ago, but out government always finds a way to justify it(9/11 *cough cough*).

I'm willing to be your friend and peer when you wake up Hemlock. I was exactly like you in '05. Cannabis is a great medicine for you.

crazyhazey said:

agreed, we've left a horrible impression of our country over there, and there would be no way to change their minds. american-izing iraq is not the answer, their culture differs from ours, we have different values. we're doing pretty much the same things the red coats did a couple centuries ago, but out government always finds a way to justify it(9/11 *cough cough*).

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Ill tell you bro that 911 was totally suspicious. I went there right away to volunteer to help and they wouldnt even let me near it, not even 2 days later. Those buildings were so tall for them to come straight down like that and not one eye witness account of a terrorist flying planes into it. I dont believe the story. Looks like another inside job to me, we may never know the truth about it. Can't trust government all they do is lie about everything.

Padawanbater2 said:

Is that your mentality? You don't like something so you tuck tail and run away?

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Hell no! AbandonConflict told me he couldn't stand "dickhead americans" like me anymore, so he moved to Mexico. LOL! He obviously doesn't like America and thinks we suck. I'm not proud of everything that we do, but I'm going nowhere(unless OBAMA gets a third term).

Moses Mobetta said:

Ill tell you bro that 911 was totally suspicious. I went there right away to volunteer to help and they wouldnt even let me near it, not even 2 days later. Those buildings were so tall for them to come straight down like that and not one eye witness account of a terrorist flying planes into it. I dont believe the story. Looks like another inside job to me, we may never know the truth about it. Can't trust government all they do is lie about everything.

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ive heard the same stories, the only way anyone knows is if they were truly there. ive heard of the videos of the plane we're all different, some even say they noticed some things that suggest the video was edited. i dont know about all that, but i do know it had no relation to the war in iraq. the government will find a way to justify anything, the small majority who dont believe the bullshit are the only ones who have open minds, and look beyond these excuses. there always real causes they're gonna hide, they all have their real reasons but they arent the ones they'll tell you. the excuse was resources.

kelly4 said:

Hell no! AbandonConflict told me he couldn't stand "dickhead americans" like me anymore, so he moved to Mexico. LOL! He obviously doesn't like America and thinks we suck. I'm not proud of everything that we do, but I'm going nowhere(unless OBAMA gets a third term).

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As if I could ever live free of the shadow of big brother...

I still maintain, I can't fucking stand being around people, but if I have to, my favorite flavor is Latina.

crazyhazey said:

ive heard the same stories, the only way anyone knows is if they were truly there. ive heard of the videos of the plane we're all different, some even say they noticed some things that suggest the video was edited. i dont know about all that, but i do know it had no relation to the war in iraq. the government will find a way to justify anything, the small majority who dont believe the bullshit are the only ones who have open minds, and look beyond these excuses. there always real causes they're gonna hide, they all have their real reasons but they arent the ones they'll tell you. the excuse was resources.

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Agrred. I didn't see it happen, but we drove there and got there after midnight. We went to volunteer to help but were not allowed near it. They told us that tomorrow they would probably let needed volunteers in to help. The next day it was the same thing . So we left. But obviously there was a plan to get into Iraq and get what they wanted. I hope Iran is not next, cause it sure seems like the troops are going somewhere and the somewhere isnt home. When they do come home where they all going to work anyway?

abandonconflict said:

As if I could ever live free of the shadow of big brother...

I still maintain, I can't fucking stand being around people, but if I have to, my favorite flavor is Latina.

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LOL! I hear ya. If it were up to me I'd live someplace isolated, but the wife makes me live in the city. Man, the anxiety.....

Moses Mobetta said:

Agrred. I didn't see it happen, but we drove there and got there after midnight. We went to volunteer to help but were not allowed near it. They told us that tomorrow they would probably let needed volunteers in to help. The next day it was the same thing . So we left. But obviously there was a plan to get into Iraq and get what they wanted. I hope Iran is not next, cause it sure seems like the troops are going somewhere and the somewhere isnt home. When they do come home where they all going to work anyway?

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We'll let Isreal deal with Iran. They'll be happy to do it and they WON'T fuck around!

Any way you look at it, this crap = PR nightmare. The guy(s) who are able to make the sheeple not see are geniuses... Evil geniuses, but geniuses nonetheless...

Moses Mobetta said:

Agrred. I didn't see it happen, but we drove there and got there after midnight. We went to volunteer to help but were not allowed near it. They told us that tomorrow they would probably let needed volunteers in to help. The next day it was the same thing . So we left. But obviously there was a plan to get into Iraq and get what they wanted. I hope Iran is not next, cause it sure seems like the troops are going somewhere and the somewhere isnt home. When they do come home where they all going to work anyway?

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who knows, america will find another war to get involved in.

crazyhazey said:

who knows, america will find another war to get involved in.

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If we must go back to war, my vote is for the war on illegal immigration.

kelly4 said:

If we must go back to war, my vote is for the war on illegal immigration.

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id rather live in mexico, at least there i could grow medical. fl is great and all, i love america, but the cops are just dickheads. they all intend to ruin your life.

crazyhazey said:

id rather live in mexico, at least there i could grow medical. fl is great and all, i love america, but the cops are just dickheads. they all intend to ruin your life.

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Mexico is beautiful and the people are great. I have absolutely nothing against Mexico. My ONLY problem with mexicans is illegal immigrants. The taking of jobs, not paying taxes, and sending the Money back to mexico. All not good things! If you think the mexican police force is less corrupt, you are sadly mistaken.

crazyhazey said:

id rather live in mexico, at least there i could grow medical. fl is great and all, i love america, but the cops are just dickheads. they all intend to ruin your life.

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I agree with all but the Mexico part. I liked living in Florida but left after numerous times being hassled relentlessly by the cops. We had worked on 1 saturday at our shop which had agiant sign on it, all our vehicles had company signs on them and our shirts had huge company logos on them. The cops came into the building like swat and began asking what we were doing there and asking for Id's. We were all just working, there was nothing going on. The owner said why were robbing the place thats why we wear these uniforms and have these signs on our trucks and then threw them all out. They had 6 cops there a couple of them started searching the trucks, on private property without a warrant. I later wondered if there was a real reason like drug trafficking but I never saw any indication of anything like that there. I think they were just stupid. The cops are out of control now in a lot of places.

kelly4 said:

If we must go back to war, my vote is for the war on illegal immigration.

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If we really wanted to help people then we'd help Mexico, and these illegals would stop coming here. I don't blame them for wanting a better life its the reason most of us are here now. But this bussiness of allowing them to take jobs from citizens here and the crime rate among illegals all of it- they are still being exploited and so is the American worker. My wife has a bussiness where she offers a cleaning service. Rich people's homes and bussinesses she bids on frequently comment that they can get a mexican to work all day for $40. Thats $5 an hour who can live on that? Never mind gas to get to and from work. It's obvious that we will continue to have this problem, American citizens get undermined by the illegals who also become exploited.

Moses Mobetta said:

If we really wanted to help people then we'd help Mexico, and these illegals would stop coming here. I don't blame them for wanting a better life its the reason most of us are here now. But this bussiness of allowing them to take jobs from citizens here and the crime rate among illegals all of it- they are still being exploited and so is the American worker. My wife has a bussiness where she offers a cleaning service. Rich people's homes and bussinesses she bids on frequently comment that they can get a mexican to work all day for $40. Thats $5 an hour who can live on that? Never mind gas to get to and from work. It's obvious that we will continue to have this problem, American citizens get undermined by the illegals who also become exploited.

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I agree. What makes it even worse is that most of the illegals extra money gets sent back to mexico and taken out of our economy. If you think cops here are bad, cross paths with a corrupt cop down in Mexico. I love going down there and seeing those pickup trucks with 8 cops in it wearing military garb and carrying assault rifles. If you think cops up here don't care about your rights, do something bad in Mexico and see how you are treated. You'll be wishing you were back in the states.

kelly4 said:

I agree. What makes it even worse is that most of the illegals extra money gets sent back to mexico and taken out of our economy. If you think cops here are bad, cross paths with a corrupt cop down in Mexico. I love going down there and seeing those pickup trucks with 8 cops in it wearing military garb and carrying assault rifles. If you think cops up here don't care about your rights, do something bad in Mexico and see how you are treated. You'll be wishing you were back in the states.

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Countless human rights violations that go unchallenged