Want to ban guns?

UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2012

cannabineer said:
With respect, UB: his interpretation has tons of historical context. The logic would lead there if it was a continuum argument. If you invert it, you get "nukes are bad, so ban guns!" It doesn't work well in that direction either. cn

governments were a lot different back then, it's pretty clear what they meant by the security of a free state. no one is saying to ban all guns, that's not even possible. something along the lines of a well regulated militia would do.

UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2012

slowbus said:
in fact,1 armed person has stopped a school shooting before.The principal had a .45 in his car.He took the little mf'r out.If everyone (or most everyone)carried a firearm,these freaks wouldn't have the nerve to attempt their cowardly acts

nonsense. a determined killer would just get bigger guns and better armor. that's escalation in the wrong direction.

dirtsurfr · Dec 19, 2012

I think they should make it to were you can't have a gun unless you have served time in the service and discharged honorably and passed a hunter safety program.

cannabineer · Dec 19, 2012

UncleBuck said:
governments were a lot different back then, it's pretty clear what they meant by the security of a free state. no one is saying to ban all guns, that's not even possible. something along the lines of a well regulated militia would do.

We've talked about the meaning of "well-regulated militia". I would expect nothing less from you than to try to bend the semantics to suit. It's part of what makes watching your trollguments such fun. cn

cannabineer · Dec 19, 2012

dirtsurfr said:
I think they should make it to were you can't have a gun unless you have served time in the service and discharged honorably and passed a hunter safety program.

On what basis? Would you deny me the right to carry a defensive insurance policy? cn

dirtsurfr · Dec 19, 2012

Ha ha ha. you said "trollguments"..
If you have put time in service you know more on how to use one and the responsibilities that come with and perhaps get the chance to see a senseless loose of life or two.
I find it funny if you have a mental problem you can get a gun and if your a felon not??

UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2012

cannabineer said:
We've talked about the meaning of "well-regulated militia". I would expect nothing less from you than to try to bend the semantics to suit. It's part of what makes watching your trollguments such fun. cn

enlighten me on the meaning of well regulated then. things have been out of whack for me lately and I must have missed the discussion.

cannabineer · Dec 19, 2012

dirtsurfr said:
Ha ha ha. you said "trollguments"..
If you have put time in service you know more on how to use one and the responsibilities that come with and perhaps get the chance to see a senseless loose of life or two.
I find it funny if you have a mental problem you can get a gun and if your a felon not??

Well yes. I said that to UB.

I did not serve. Does that mean you'd consider me carrying to protect myself unsuitable? How/why? cn

kinetic · Dec 19, 2012

Ya know whats tough to do. Convince a vet with PTSD that he shouldn't have guns. My brother lost his shit almost 20 years after the fact, from the things he saw and did. Just being a vet doesn't mean you should be armed though I don't know any that aren't with that said.

And have ya ever seen some of the munitions on a Rez?
The zipperheads in the reserve would blush.

slowbus · Dec 19, 2012

we have a lot of vets that are crazy as hell running around here with real weapons.I don't flip anybody off in traffic.
fwiw I fired a full auto Mac the other day.This army dude has it.It was cra-azy

dirtsurfr · Dec 19, 2012

No I think every one should be required to have a gun, not just Have a right to.

cannabineer · Dec 19, 2012

dirtsurfr said:
No I think every one should be required to have a gun, not just Have a right to.

Oh lol no! I think the right to not have a gun is as important. cn

Johnny Retro · Dec 19, 2012

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"

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UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2012

Johnny Retro said:
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"

"Ouch!" - 20 six year olds in CT

Johnny Retro · Dec 19, 2012

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so"

11 million men, women and children dead

UncleBuck · Dec 19, 2012

Johnny Retro said:
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so"

11 million men, women and children dead

no one will ever rid the nation of our 250+ million guns so chill out. and all those guns are worthless against the might of our army.

(818)MedicineMan · Dec 19, 2012

Just cleared DROS and am picking up a new piece tonight.

This debate makes me sick. Get em while you can.

Trolling · Dec 19, 2012

Why do people keep making multiple threads when they know there's already like 10 others they can go in already? Jfc.

joeyjoejoe · Dec 19, 2012

take what you want , but you'll never get your hand on these guns. USA USA USA

cannabineer · Dec 19, 2012

joeyjoejoe said:
take what you want , but you'll never get your hand on these guns. USA USA USA

Those are his legs ... collapsed in that unfortunate elevator accident ... poor guy. That's his whole height right there ... cn

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