DIY-HP-LED
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The Ukrainians are sure trying to draw down the Russian air defenses in Ukraine to defend Moscow from embarrassing drone strikes. They also seem to be hitting important targets precisely in spite of intense GPS jamming.
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DIY-HP-LED
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They got him, they say his plane was shot down by the Russian military, looks like it.
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A terrible accident I'm sure... He fell further than from a window.
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Fogdog
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I guess only visiting one story buildings and using a taster wasn't enough. Though, reports from Russia say there is an investigation into this being the act of a terrorist who was on board at the time. Some people say.
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Wagner mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash with nine others, Russian authorities say
The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, is believed to have been killed in a plane crash, Russian state media reported Wednesday.
The aircraft, a business jet, crashed in the Tver region northwest of Moscow, with all 10 people onboard killed, according to Russia’s state news agency TASS. Prigozhin was on its list of passengers.
While Russian officials said that Prigozhin was on the passenger list, it was not immediately clear if he was in the aircraft.
The Russian Ministry of Emergency Services wrote on its Telegram account: “In the Tver region, near the village of Kuzhenkino, a private Embraer Legacy aircraft crashed while flying from Moscow to St. Petersburg. There were 10 people on board, including 3 crew members.”
Wagner mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash with nine others, Russian authorities say
The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, is believed to have been killed in a plane crash, Russian state media reported Wednesday.
Wagner mercenary boss Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash with nine others, Russian authorities say
The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, is believed to have been killed in a plane crash, Russian state media reported Wednesday.
The aircraft, a business jet, crashed in the Tver region northwest of Moscow, with all 10 people onboard killed, according to Russia’s state news agency TASS. Prigozhin was on its list of passengers.
While Russian officials said that Prigozhin was on the passenger list, it was not immediately clear if he was in the aircraft.
The Russian Ministry of Emergency Services wrote on its Telegram account: “In the Tver region, near the village of Kuzhenkino, a private Embraer Legacy aircraft crashed while flying from Moscow to St. Petersburg. There were 10 people on board, including 3 crew members.”
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If Ukraine is struggling why are the Russians so nervous?
"Putin will go to negotiations, withdraw his troops, and fulfill all demands," former CIA director David Petraeus said in an interview with Channel 24.
The retired general of the US army explained why the offensive is not slow, as written by the Western media, but is actually going according to plan, and why there will be more strikes against Russia
He also assured that the Ukrainian leadership made the right decisions regarding the offensive given the resources it possesses.
"Slowly, the Ukrainians are moving forward, in the South and East, in front of Bakhmut. They are tearing away these Russian defense lines piece by piece, I think the moment will come when they will begin to break through. And then we will see if the Russian troops are able to active defense, or their front will begin to crack at the seams and collapse," the retired general said.
Only under Bakhmut, the Russians lost more in a few months than the USSR did in twenty years in Afghanistan.
"Putin will go to negotiations, withdraw his troops, and fulfill all demands," former CIA director David Petraeus said in an interview with Channel 24.
The retired general of the US army explained why the offensive is not slow, as written by the Western media, but is actually going according to plan, and why there will be more strikes against Russia
He also assured that the Ukrainian leadership made the right decisions regarding the offensive given the resources it possesses.
"Slowly, the Ukrainians are moving forward, in the South and East, in front of Bakhmut. They are tearing away these Russian defense lines piece by piece, I think the moment will come when they will begin to break through. And then we will see if the Russian troops are able to active defense, or their front will begin to crack at the seams and collapse," the retired general said.
Only under Bakhmut, the Russians lost more in a few months than the USSR did in twenty years in Afghanistan.
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New details on crashed plane in Russia with Wagner boss Prigozhin on board
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BREAKING: Wagner mercenary group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the list of passengers on a plane that crashed north of Moscow, according to state media. Russian Ministry of Emergency Services: The plane was flying from Moscow to St. Petersburg. All 10 on board were killed.
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Ukraine Daily Update | Day 546
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Wagner chief listed as passenger in Russian plane crash: state media
A second Embraer 600 business jet, which is also linked to Prigozhin, landed at Ostafyevo airport, Fontanka writes.
“The second Embraer 600 business jet with tail number RA-02748, which is also associated with the fleet of businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin, landed at Ostafyevo airport.
According to Flightradar24, on the afternoon of August 23, he flew from Moscow to St. Petersburg, then returned back, making a small angle.
At the moment, the service has a note that a flight from Moscow to Baku is scheduled on Thursday.
Earlier, an Embraer Legacy 600 business jet with tail number RA-02795 crashed in the Tver region, with Yevgeny Prigozhin on the passenger list. Whether the businessman was actually on board is still unknown.”
The second plane, where Prigogine could have been, landed in Moscow.
The second plane of Yevgeny Prigozhin with the number RA-02748 landed at the Ostafyevo airport near Moscow. It was on it that a businessman could be located, sources say.
“The second plane has landed. It was on it that Yevgeny Prigozhin could fly, who, for the sake of his own safety, checked in on one side, and was on the other, ”the Readovka telegram channel reports, citing sources.
The plane that crashed in the Tver region belongs to businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin. The crash happened 15 kilometers from Khotilovo, journalist Ksenia Sobchak reported . The businessman himself was listed among the passengers , specified in the Federal Air Transport Agency.
Pardoned fighters of PMC "Wagner" are suspected of killing twelve and raping four people
After being released, some former convicts from PMC "Wagner" began to commit crimes again
The first murder in the spring of 2023 was committed by former prisoner Ivan Rossomahin, who returned from Ukraine. A fighter of the Wagner PMC in Vyatskiye Polyany, Kirov Region, stabbed to death an 85-year-old pensioner in March.
In April, the pardoned Wagnerite Georgy Siukaev in South Ossetia stabbed to death a 37-year-old mentally disabled person from Tskhinvali.
Also in April, two animators were killed by Wagnerian Demyan Kevorkyan during a robbery in the Krasnodar Territory . Together with his accomplices, he stabbed 37-year-old Kirill Chubko and 19-year-old Tatiana Mostyko to death, after which he hid their bodies in the forest.
In June, Vasily Murachev, a Wagnerian, opened fire in a cafe in Angarsk, as a result of which one person died and another was seriously injured. The survivor was the president of the local boxing federation Alexander Rakislov, later he was operated on twice. The deceased was his friend.
Another murder in June was committed by ex-prisoner Nikita Lyubimov from Chuvashia. In the village of Murzakovo, he beat to death his 56-year-old acquaintance, whom he came to visit.
The most resonant crime in August was committed by the pardoned Wagnerite Igor Safonov from Karelia . In the village of Derevyannoye, Prionezhsky district, a drunken recidivist, together with an accomplice , staged a massacre, as a result of which 6 people died. First, the killers stabbed four acquaintances, with whom they drank together, and then set their house on fire to hide the traces of the crime. After that, they went into another house and killed the father and son in it and set fire to the house.
Ex-prisoners become accused of violent crimes. So, in May, a 42-year-old Wagnerian was detained in Novosibirsk, who raped two schoolgirls aged 10 and 12 .
Two more rapists were put on the wanted list in August: these are Alexei Khlebnikov and Alexei Kostromin . The first is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl in the Novoanninsky district of the Volgograd region. The second - severely beat and raped a 26-year-old girl, who is then in a hospital in serious condition.
https://verstka-media.translate.goog/pomilovannye-boycy-chvk-vagner-podozrevayutsia-v-ubiystve-dvenadcati-i-iznasilovanii-chetveryh-chelovek?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
- Wagner Group founder Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list of a plane that crashed in the Tver region on Wednesday, says Russia’s Federal Air Transport Agency.
- At least 10 people on board the plane were reportedly killed.
- According to the pro-Kremlin Telegram channel VChK-OGPU, both Prigozhin and his right-hand man, Wagner Group’s first commander Dmitry Utkin (callsign “Wagner”), died in the crash. This has yet to be officially confirmed.
- Grey Zone, another Telegram channel with close links to Wagner Group, reported that Russian air defense forces downed Prigozhin’s plane, but this has not officially been confirmed either.
- Today marks exactly two months since Yevgeny Prigozhin led Wagner Group forces in an armed rebellion against Russia’s military leadership. The mercenary leader announced his “march of justice” on the evening of June 23.
A second Embraer 600 business jet, which is also linked to Prigozhin, landed at Ostafyevo airport, Fontanka writes.
“The second Embraer 600 business jet with tail number RA-02748, which is also associated with the fleet of businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin, landed at Ostafyevo airport.
According to Flightradar24, on the afternoon of August 23, he flew from Moscow to St. Petersburg, then returned back, making a small angle.
At the moment, the service has a note that a flight from Moscow to Baku is scheduled on Thursday.
Earlier, an Embraer Legacy 600 business jet with tail number RA-02795 crashed in the Tver region, with Yevgeny Prigozhin on the passenger list. Whether the businessman was actually on board is still unknown.”
The second plane, where Prigogine could have been, landed in Moscow.
The second plane of Yevgeny Prigozhin with the number RA-02748 landed at the Ostafyevo airport near Moscow. It was on it that a businessman could be located, sources say.
“The second plane has landed. It was on it that Yevgeny Prigozhin could fly, who, for the sake of his own safety, checked in on one side, and was on the other, ”the Readovka telegram channel reports, citing sources.
The plane that crashed in the Tver region belongs to businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin. The crash happened 15 kilometers from Khotilovo, journalist Ksenia Sobchak reported . The businessman himself was listed among the passengers , specified in the Federal Air Transport Agency.
Pardoned fighters of PMC "Wagner" are suspected of killing twelve and raping four people
After being released, some former convicts from PMC "Wagner" began to commit crimes again
The first murder in the spring of 2023 was committed by former prisoner Ivan Rossomahin, who returned from Ukraine. A fighter of the Wagner PMC in Vyatskiye Polyany, Kirov Region, stabbed to death an 85-year-old pensioner in March.
In April, the pardoned Wagnerite Georgy Siukaev in South Ossetia stabbed to death a 37-year-old mentally disabled person from Tskhinvali.
Also in April, two animators were killed by Wagnerian Demyan Kevorkyan during a robbery in the Krasnodar Territory . Together with his accomplices, he stabbed 37-year-old Kirill Chubko and 19-year-old Tatiana Mostyko to death, after which he hid their bodies in the forest.
In June, Vasily Murachev, a Wagnerian, opened fire in a cafe in Angarsk, as a result of which one person died and another was seriously injured. The survivor was the president of the local boxing federation Alexander Rakislov, later he was operated on twice. The deceased was his friend.
Another murder in June was committed by ex-prisoner Nikita Lyubimov from Chuvashia. In the village of Murzakovo, he beat to death his 56-year-old acquaintance, whom he came to visit.
The most resonant crime in August was committed by the pardoned Wagnerite Igor Safonov from Karelia . In the village of Derevyannoye, Prionezhsky district, a drunken recidivist, together with an accomplice , staged a massacre, as a result of which 6 people died. First, the killers stabbed four acquaintances, with whom they drank together, and then set their house on fire to hide the traces of the crime. After that, they went into another house and killed the father and son in it and set fire to the house.
Ex-prisoners become accused of violent crimes. So, in May, a 42-year-old Wagnerian was detained in Novosibirsk, who raped two schoolgirls aged 10 and 12 .
Two more rapists were put on the wanted list in August: these are Alexei Khlebnikov and Alexei Kostromin . The first is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl in the Novoanninsky district of the Volgograd region. The second - severely beat and raped a 26-year-old girl, who is then in a hospital in serious condition.
https://verstka-media.translate.goog/pomilovannye-boycy-chvk-vagner-podozrevayutsia-v-ubiystve-dvenadcati-i-iznasilovanii-chetveryh-chelovek?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
GenericEnigma
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I am also not yet convinced.
If it's true, I am terrified of who will take over Wagner leadership.
Also, if true - poetic justice by irony?
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Two jets huh?
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yep and 1 landed
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Hmmm...
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Ukraine is an issue that divides republicans and a lot of magats who support Russia are on the backfoot with Trump in deeper shit every day. Sucking Putin's ass cost them the hawks, military and intelligence communities.
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Hurd: Too many GOP candidates want to ‘kiss the butt’ of Putin
Former Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) said some of his fellow GOP presidential candidates are going too easy on Russian President Vladimir Putin a few hours before the first GOP presidential debate — and after a plane crashed in Russia with a passenger list that included Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin.
“This is one of the issues that I hope the candidates on the debate stage get asked about, because unfortunately there’s too many of those candidates in the room who engage and, to be frank, want to kiss the butt of Vladimir Putin,” Hurd said in a CNN interview.
“Vladimir Putin is a war criminal, and his likely actions today are just a further indication of that,” Hurd added.
Prigozhin is the leader of the mercenary group that has been at the forefront of Russia’s war with Ukraine.
Over the last year, he turned increasingly critical of Russia’s military leadership, and in June he led a short-lived coup against the government.
Mystery has shrouded Prigozhin and his precise relationship with Putin since the coup. Initially it was said he would be sent into exile in Belarus, but he later was believed to have returned to Russia.
There had been speculation since the coup over whether Prigozhin would meet a violent end, possibly on orders from Putin.
Hurd, who not qualify for Wednesday night’s first GOP presidential debate, said Putin is likely responsible for the crash.
“A person has a 1-in-11 million chance of dying in a plane crash,” Hurd said. “Now, I don’t have any of the intelligence or insights into what happened, but considering that Prigozhin tried to create a mutiny two months ago, I don’t think this was luck.”
“I think this was something that Vladimir Putin did on purpose and was trying to not only target him, but let everyone else know that he’s not going to play,” he added.
President Biden also suggested Wednesday that Putin could be responsible.
“There’s not much that happens in Russia that Putin’s not behind,” Biden told reporters. “But I don’t know enough to know the answer.”
Hurd: Too many GOP candidates want to ‘kiss the butt’ of Putin
Former Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) said some of his fellow GOP presidential candidates are going too easy on Russian President Vladimir Putin a few hours before the first GOP presidential debate — and…
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