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Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/amnesty-accuses-ukraine-basing-troops-residential-areas-angering-kyiv-2022-08-04/

this is a serious mistake on Ukraine's part...
when you have the superior moral ground, do not squander it on minor advantages...the support of nearly everyone in the free world is worth too much to risk it breaking the rules for questionable results...
if Zelensky plays this smart, tomorrow he will make another address, admit that they made mistakes, and pledge that they will not repeat those mistakes...then, DO NOT REPEAT THOSE MISTAKES...
i realize they're fighting for their lives, but if they lose the support of even a few of the major NATO members, things will get a lot more interesting, quickly.
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
More cannon fodder for Ukrainians :mrgreen:

I mean they are pretty much starved already from their iwn country - a few expired 1978 rations would be a banquet. I see no increased battle readiness from these half covid soaked men. I guess russia wants their deceased soldier list to double.

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Some estimates put the number of Russian soldiers killed as high as 15,000 to 25,000. Accounting for over five months of the war, that puts Russia’s casualty count to about 100 soldiers a day.

Korotchenko also alluded to reports indicating Russia has invited North Korean “builders” to repair Russian-occupied Donbas.

Alexander Matsegora, the Russian ambassador to North Korea, said in an interview in July, “Korean builders who are highly qualified, hardworking and ready to work in the most difficult conditions, will be a very serious” part in building the destroyed infrastructure in Donbas.


Korotchenko called North Korean builders “resident and undemanding” and said that most importantly, they are “motivated.”

North Korea and Russia have experienced a closer partnership after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, with North Korea being one of the only counties in the world to recognize Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) and the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) as independent.

Matsegora claimed in the interview that North Korea receives nothing for cooperating with Russia, and said it just acted according to its “conscience.”

“North Korea is one of the very few countries that can afford to pursue a completely independent foreign policy. No one – neither Russia with China, let alone the United States – can force North Koreans to do something or not to do something,” the ambassador added, promising to aid North Korea fight its sanctions on the global stage.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
More cannon fodder for Ukrainians :mrgreen:

I mean they are pretty much starved already from their iwn country - a few expired 1978 rations would be a banquet. I see no increased battle readiness from these half covid soaked men. I guess russia wants their deceased soldier list to double.

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Some estimates put the number of Russian soldiers killed as high as 15,000 to 25,000. Accounting for over five months of the war, that puts Russia’s casualty count to about 100 soldiers a day.

Korotchenko also alluded to reports indicating Russia has invited North Korean “builders” to repair Russian-occupied Donbas.

Alexander Matsegora, the Russian ambassador to North Korea, said in an interview in July, “Korean builders who are highly qualified, hardworking and ready to work in the most difficult conditions, will be a very serious” part in building the destroyed infrastructure in Donbas.


Korotchenko called North Korean builders “resident and undemanding” and said that most importantly, they are “motivated.”

North Korea and Russia have experienced a closer partnership after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, with North Korea being one of the only counties in the world to recognize Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) and the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) as independent.

Matsegora claimed in the interview that North Korea receives nothing for cooperating with Russia, and said it just acted according to its “conscience.”

“North Korea is one of the very few countries that can afford to pursue a completely independent foreign policy. No one – neither Russia with China, let alone the United States – can force North Koreans to do something or not to do something,” the ambassador added, promising to aid North Korea fight its sanctions on the global stage.
more needless death
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Its true - needless death. Watching a real life lemming slaughter. North Korean soldiers will suffer same fate …. Drone drops / shelling / logistical fuckups and more . However it remains to be seen if “ equipment “ will magically appear with them. As far as “ armor “ they have older ( early 80’s ) Chonma tanks based on old russian T62’s … so no advantage there. PK rifles - RPG - Russian BMP ‘s ( Ukrainians kill these often ) and chinese / russian AK’s.

Dont think they are bringing any real technology to battlefield. Wonder how many NK soldiers will want to “ defect “ since they are now out of north korea.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Its true - needless death. Watching a real life lemming slaughter. North Korean soldiers will suffer same fate …. Drone drops / shelling / logistical fuckups and more . However it remains to be seen if “ equipment “ will magically appear with them. As far as “ armor “ they have older ( early 80’s ) Chonma tanks based on old russian T62’s … so no advantage there. PK rifles - RPG - Russian BMP ‘s ( Ukrainians kill these often ) and chinese / russian AK’s.

Dont think they are bringing any real technology to battlefield. Wonder how many NK soldiers will want to “ defect “ since they are now out of north korea.
when defecting to a disgraced and hurting Russia is the better option, that does not exactly recommend the society under Kim’s brand of fascism.
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Not sure why they have to publicly announce high level russian arrests … it merely adds more misery if russia wants to add them for any prisoner exchanges.
I do have sympathy for those unjustly incarcerated in mother russia but we as they say should not negotiate with terrorists. Russia should never be a travel destination.

This may sound callus but SPOCK said it best - “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”
 
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