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DIY-HP-LED

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How many Russians in the bag? I expect it will take a week to find them all and gather them up. Probably mostly fresh conscripts as the experienced war criminals should have been withdrawn and replaced by cannon fodder, at least that was the plan, but they are not good at pulling off plans.

"UPDATE: Friday, Nov 11, 2022 · 10:29:59 AM AST · Mark Sumner
Beryslav is liberated. That’s it. That’s the last place I know of where Russian forces were still fighting on the west bank. It’s done."
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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How many Russians in the bag? I expect it will take a week to find them all and gather them up. Probably mostly fresh conscripts as the experienced war criminals should have been withdrawn and replaced by cannon fodder, at least that was the plan, but they are not good at pulling off plans.

"UPDATE: Friday, Nov 11, 2022 · 10:29:59 AM AST · Mark Sumner
Beryslav is liberated. That’s it. That’s the last place I know of where Russian forces were still fighting on the west bank. It’s done."
now it's time to move on Crimea...the russians are already fucked, don't leave a single one alive and free in Ukraine.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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now it's time to move on Crimea...the russians are already fucked, don't leave a single one alive and free in Ukraine.
Cutting them off in the south and Crimea for the winter could have interesting results, A drive to the sea of Azov further east will take a lot of that artillery off the east bank of the Dnipro. Just blowing the Kerch rail bridge should do it, since the costal rail link is under Ukrainian fire control. Once they get most of the forces south of Kherson moving east to counter the Ukrainians, then they might come in behind them at Kherson. If they have a bridgehead at the Dam, they will pour everything into it they can, the dam is a very important objective IMHO.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If the Ukrainians had 24/7 drone surveillance on their expected routes of advance, they could see the Russians deploying minefields, particularly at night, and map them in advance. Also drones with infrared cameras can often spot buried mines at night when it's cold since their heat signature is different than the surrounding soil, particularly freshly laid mines and they can be mapped with a camera. These can be plotted with great accuracy and layered onto digital maps the troops use with tablets. Clearing mines is fast and easy if you've been tracking their deployment for weeks in advance or during their retreat. It would be a no brainer to have a team with several types of drones monitoring likely routes of advance or the enemy's retreat, they have the drones of all kinds to do the job.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A great morale builder for the army and country, getting through the winter will be no problem for them, not so much for the Russians. They are earning the aid they have been given, a pittance when compared to the cash spent in Afghanistan and Iraq, no nation building required here, they are doing that on their own. Having the nation united like this with allied aid pouring in means the Russians are fucked by next summer for sure after an epically miserable winter in Ukraine, with a good portion of them in the south and Crimea cut off would be my guess. They are at the furthest point from Mother Russia with a single supply route into Crimea once they divide them in the south and trap them south of Kherson. I'm wondering about that dam, if there is no fighting on the west side of the Dnipro, they must control that side at least and would have a plan to have a bridgehead on the other side to control it.

I hope the Russians don't shell the poor fuckers whooping it up in Kherson city tonight.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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‘A damning defeat’: Retired Lt. Gen. on Ukraine pushing Russia out of Kherson

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CNN military analyst and retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling weighs in on the Ukrainian military’s victory in Kherson and says it will harm the Russian military’s efforts across the region.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Cutting them off in the south and Crimea for the winter could have interesting results, A drive to the sea of Azov further east will take a lot of that artillery off the east bank of the Dnipro. Just blowing the Kerch rail bridge should do it, since the costal rail link is under Ukrainian fire control. Once they get most of the forces south of Kherson moving east to counter the Ukrainians, then they might come in behind them at Kherson. If they have a bridgehead at the Dam, they will pour everything into it they can, the dam is a very important objective IMHO.
Crimea could be a different nut to crack for the Ukrainians. the russians have had control of it for ten years. there are kids that have grown up never knowing Crimea under Ukrainian control. they may not find quite as warm a welcome as they have elsewhere.
the citizens have become accustomed to russian control, and have had ten years of their propaganda. i hope they welcome liberation, but some may not be so enthusiastic.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Dugin needs to be executed for his crimes. especially since he's pooty's ear.........
His daughter was a war casualty, and he was almost. A lot of these guys might get rounded up and shipped off to Ukraine as cannon fodder if they don't STFU on state TV. Vald isn't dead yet and it would be dangerous for anybody to try and make him dead or suggest it, he has people who depend on him for money and power, and they could decide to do Dugin themselves.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Crimea could be a different nut to crack for the Ukrainians. the russians have had control of it for ten years. there are kids that have grown up never knowing Crimea under Ukrainian control. they may not find quite as warm a welcome as they have elsewhere.
the citizens have become accustomed to russian control, and have had ten years of their propaganda. i hope they welcome liberation, but some may not be so enthusiastic.
Many of those have left and they will get out from under sanctions instantly, drafting the population as cannon fodder was not popular either. The homes of those who left will be given to displaced Ukrainians and those loyal to Putin will be encouraged to leave by various means not all of them pleasant and not all of them involving the government. Crimean Tartars will be moving back home not just from Ukraine, but from Siberia too, where Stalin deported most of them after the war. In the 1992 referendum on independence 57% voted to join Ukraine and with sanctions and being fucked over by Russia with conscription, that number will be higher. As far as speaking Russian goes, as one Ukrainian put it, everybody in Ukraine speaks Russian and the languages are very close and it's easy to pick up the other if you know one. Zelenskiy was a Russia speaker who moved back home and learned Ukrainian for instance, he speaks perfect Russian.
 
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