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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Since Robotanks have no people inside, they only need to be armored against small arms fire and even then, the vitals can be further protected. Put an anti-mine clearing device on the front end and let it lead the way with guns blazing and mines exploding in front of it.

Here is a small German version, useful for a variety of functions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597593284595310594
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Since Robotanks have no people inside, they only need to be armored against small arms fire and even then, the vitals can be further protected. Put an anti-mine clearing device on the front end and let it lead the way with guns blazing and mines exploding in front of it.

Here is a small German version, useful for a variety of functions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597593284595310594
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why do i smell grenade launcher attachment not included......
 
printer

printer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Hope they set up decoys and fortified those replacement transformers, the bigger the unit the more sandbags around it and the higher they go above the berms! In wintertime they can even be put in buildings temporarily and a dummy decoy set up in the usual spot. Too bad they couldn't reach out and touch a few of these guys!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597167796068134913
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How are you going to sandbag this?



 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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printer said:
How are you going to sandbag this?



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Well, ya start with a berm around it or old shipping containers filled with sand and start sand bagging on top of that, while trying to get it as close as cooling will allow. Or instead of putting them in the same spot you relocate them inside a concrete building for winter, a bombed out burned one is best. There are fewer of the big ones available and there are fewer used in the system. For drone protection commercial fishing nets can be strung from towers around it. That is for the missiles that get through the increasingly hardened defenses.

Water cool the fucking things and you can put them inside 10 feet of reinforced concrete and just replace the external radiators and insulators sticking out the top!
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It's designed to carry different payloads from guns and rockets, clearing mines, to carrying out wounded, it can be quickly reconfigured to do different jobs as required.
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that's why i like the model/design, sitting here imagining which payload to put on it.....and it's ultimate capacity......in the near future i suspect those will be on the battle field more than man
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Well, ya start with a berm around it or old shipping containers filled with sand and start sand bagging on top of that, while trying to get it as close as cooling will allow. Or instead of putting them in the same spot you relocate them inside a concrete building for winter, a bombed out burned one is best. There are fewer of the big ones available and there are fewer used in the system. For drone protection commercial fishing nets can be strung from towers around it. That is for the missiles that get through the increasingly hardened defenses.

Water cool the fucking things and you can put them inside 10 feet of reinforced concrete and just replace the external radiators and insulators sticking out the top!
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i wasn't going to comment, but maybe something like a metal pole building roof, with multiple layers of metal sheeting would work. but how many such substations are there in Ukraine? they don't use power pole transformers, iirc, so there would have to be a lot of them in EVERY city and at least one in almost any village of any size. there is no practical way to protect that many substations, except removing the threat at it's source.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i wasn't going to comment, but maybe something like a metal pole building roof, with multiple layers of metal sheeting would work. but how many such substations are there in Ukraine? they don't use power pole transformers, iirc, so there would have to be a lot of them in EVERY city and at least one in almost any village of any size. there is no practical way to protect that many substations, except removing the threat at it's source.
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I think they’re in a large volume of open air for a reason.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i wasn't going to comment, but maybe something like a metal pole building roof, with multiple layers of metal sheeting would work. but how many such substations are there in Ukraine? they don't use power pole transformers, iirc, so there would have to be a lot of them in EVERY city and at least one in almost any village of any size. there is no practical way to protect that many substations, except removing the threat at it's source.
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The ones in question are the big ones that step down the really high power station voltages, there are two main issues, cooling and electrical arcing in fortifying them. If this war and such attacks are expected to go on for years, then design changes for new equipment and water cooling can take care of most of the issues with extra money to harden them up considerably.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i wasn't going to comment, but maybe something like a metal pole building roof, with multiple layers of metal sheeting would work. but how many such substations are there in Ukraine? they don't use power pole transformers, iirc, so there would have to be a lot of them in EVERY city and at least one in almost any village of any size. there is no practical way to protect that many substations, except removing the threat at it's source.
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EU governments have their own defense/industry arrangements and will pay for increased production capacity for the needed transformers, and they can also be made in Canada and the USA and production incentives offered here as well using the defense production act. There is a lead time and things will be tight, but if the Ukrainians can make it through the winter with sporadic power, woodstoves and tens of thousands of generators pouring in, then they should be ok after that. They will keep their eye on the prize and deal with the discomfort.
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED said:
EU governments have their own defense/industry arrangements and will pay for increased production capacity for the needed transformers, and they can also be made in Canada and the USA and production incentives offered here as well using the defense production act. There is a lead time and things will be tight, but if the Ukrainians can make it through the winter with sporadic power, woodstoves and tens of thousands of generators pouring in, then they should be ok after that. They will keep their eye on the prize and deal with the discomfort.
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and also

asia.nikkei.com

Turkish 'powership' group in talks to supply Ukraine

Karpowership says vessels could be used in Odesa if security conditions are met
asia.nikkei.com asia.nikkei.com
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i wasn't going to comment, but maybe something like a metal pole building roof, with multiple layers of metal sheeting would work. but how many such substations are there in Ukraine? they don't use power pole transformers, iirc, so there would have to be a lot of them in EVERY city and at least one in almost any village of any size. there is no practical way to protect that many substations, except removing the threat at it's source.
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Actually, we should ramp up production of this equipment, and all countries should securely store critical spares. Enough at least to get our society back up and running should we suffer another Carrington like solar event. That would fry grids and transformers globally and melt power lines from induced power. The spares must be shielded as well, even the rolls of replacement wire would have currents induced in them. The sun just has to burb in the right direction at the right time and we'd be fucked as things stand now.
 
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