BudmanTX
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according to what i'm reading and seeing, ground freeze is supposed to hit monday....and negative temps throughout next week and more.....so we'll see and go from there....
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printer
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Putin orders 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine for observance of Orthodox Christmas
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine to observe Orthodox Christmas over the weekend.
“Based on the fact that a large number of citizens professing Orthodoxy live in the combat areas, we call on the Ukrainian side to declare a cease-fire and give them the opportunity to attend services on Christmas Eve, as well as on the Day of the Nativity of Christ,” Putin’s order, published on the Kremlin’s website, reads.
Putin called for the ceasefire “along the entire line of contact between the parties in Ukraine” and requested it last from noon on Friday through Saturday.
The order comes after the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, called for a ceasefire during the holiday weekend. In the Kremlin statement, Putin said he was taking into account Kirill’s request.
There was no immediate word from the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Zelensky, criticized the ceasefire request from Kirill early on Thursday, saying the Russian Orthodox Church acts as a “propagandist of war.”
“The Russian Orthodox Church has called for the genocide of Ukrainians, encouraged mass murders, and insists on even greater militarization of the Russian Federation,” Podolyak tweeted. “Therefore, the statement of the Russian Orthodox Church about the ‘Christmas truce’ is a cynical trap and an element of propaganda.”
Putin also discussed a settlement in the war on Thursday with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, according to a readout from the Kremlin.
The Turkish leader expressed a desire to mediate a political settlement of the conflict and Putin “reaffirmed Russia’s openness to a serious dialogue,” adding that Ukraine must “take into account new territorial realities.”
Ukraine called for a 10-point peace proposal last month, including the complete withdrawal of troops from his country.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at the time that “Kyiv is not ready for dialogue” in response to the proposal.
“We will not talk to anyone under such conditions,” Lavrov said in an interview with state media last month.
Putin’s new call for a ceasefire comes after a deadly New Year’s Eve strike on a Russian temporary base in the eastern region of Donetsk, which Moscow this week said killed 89 soldiers. It was the deadliest single attack on Russian forces in the war.
thehill.com
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine to observe Orthodox Christmas over the weekend.
“Based on the fact that a large number of citizens professing Orthodoxy live in the combat areas, we call on the Ukrainian side to declare a cease-fire and give them the opportunity to attend services on Christmas Eve, as well as on the Day of the Nativity of Christ,” Putin’s order, published on the Kremlin’s website, reads.
Putin called for the ceasefire “along the entire line of contact between the parties in Ukraine” and requested it last from noon on Friday through Saturday.
The order comes after the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, called for a ceasefire during the holiday weekend. In the Kremlin statement, Putin said he was taking into account Kirill’s request.
There was no immediate word from the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Zelensky, criticized the ceasefire request from Kirill early on Thursday, saying the Russian Orthodox Church acts as a “propagandist of war.”
“The Russian Orthodox Church has called for the genocide of Ukrainians, encouraged mass murders, and insists on even greater militarization of the Russian Federation,” Podolyak tweeted. “Therefore, the statement of the Russian Orthodox Church about the ‘Christmas truce’ is a cynical trap and an element of propaganda.”
Putin also discussed a settlement in the war on Thursday with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, according to a readout from the Kremlin.
The Turkish leader expressed a desire to mediate a political settlement of the conflict and Putin “reaffirmed Russia’s openness to a serious dialogue,” adding that Ukraine must “take into account new territorial realities.”
Ukraine called for a 10-point peace proposal last month, including the complete withdrawal of troops from his country.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at the time that “Kyiv is not ready for dialogue” in response to the proposal.
“We will not talk to anyone under such conditions,” Lavrov said in an interview with state media last month.
Putin’s new call for a ceasefire comes after a deadly New Year’s Eve strike on a Russian temporary base in the eastern region of Donetsk, which Moscow this week said killed 89 soldiers. It was the deadliest single attack on Russian forces in the war.
Putin orders 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine for observance of Orthodox Christmas
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine to observe Orthodox Christmas over the weekend. “Based on the fact that a large number of citizens professing Orthodoxy…
thehill.com
printer
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Good PR from Putin for Russia. If he gets a ceasefire he can look like a strong leader. If Ukraine ignores it he will call the Ukrainians heathen bastards.
BudmanTX
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interesting article.....yeah i can see them working together to spread disinfo bullcrap......
theintercept.com
Hacked Russian Files Reveal Propaganda Agreement With China
In 2021, government officials and media executives from Russia and China discussed the exchange of news and social content.
theintercept.com
BudmanTX
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Russia already calls them Satanist....i mean come on.....
Sativied
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(NG becomes LNG when transported in containers, like ships. Liquified to reduce density for transport. In the pipelines it’s in gas form, not LNG.)
I wonder how much of Russia’s already crappy poorly maintained equipment still works after a week of -30 and below. Not new for Russia but this time it will be harder for them to maintain and repair.
Forbes estimates Russia has spent $82 billion on war with Ukraine since Feb. 24.
During nine months of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has spent $82 billion on war, which is a quarter of its annual budget, according to Forbes. They calculated that Russia used 10,000 to 50,000 shells per day in the war, and the average price of a Soviet-caliber shell is about...
kyivindependent.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
an unexpected ally of Ukraine: seawater.
BudmanTX
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weather forcaste for Kreminna...frozen ground comin
printer
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Keep repeating and the lies become truth.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
a major reason gas gets liquefied (as well as reducing volume) is that is how we get helium, a vital resource (semiconductors, mri etc.)(NG becomes LNG when transported in containers, like ships. Liquified to reduce density for transport. In the pipelines it’s in gas form, not LNG.)
I wonder how much of Russia’s already crappy poorly maintained equipment still works after a week of -30 and below. Not new for Russia but this time it will be harder for them to maintain and repair.
EUSome EU members still pay a combined total of 75mil per day to Russia, down from 200mil when the war started. It’ll drop far lower soon but over 2022 it’s roughly half of what Russia spent up to late Nov on the war:
Forbes estimates Russia has spent $82 billion on war with Ukraine since Feb. 24.
During nine months of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has spent $82 billion on war, which is a quarter of its annual budget, according to Forbes. They calculated that Russia used 10,000 to 50,000 shells per day in the war, and the average price of a Soviet-caliber shell is about...
Pipeline gas is revaporized.
DIY-HP-LED
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The Ukrainians have teams testing the soil just like the allies had people test the beaches in Normandy to see if they could support armor, they probably have a bunch of standardized tests and temps as well as soil maps of the country.
Sativied
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LNG is. Tmlk pipeline gas, as in the pipelines in this context, Russia-Ukraine-Europe, including the late Nordstreams, is not liquified to begin with, it’s pressurized but still considered dry gas. Russia also exports LNG to Europe but to sea ports and LNG terminals by ship.
Hence the distinction below:
And sure, there are outside the context of transporting russian gas other reasons to liquify gas.
DIY-HP-LED
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Where it will be shadowed by a dozen NATO surface ships, while they try to sort out the underwater submarine traffic jam of subs shadowing it too! Those Russians will never be lonely, there will always be somebody close by, a good thing too, since with the condition of their ships they could sink at any time and need rescuing. 
nypost.com
Putin deploys frigate to Atlantic Ocean armed with hypersonic Zircon cruise missiles
The ship, named Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov, is deploying months after Russia’s Ministry of Defense touted a successful test launch of the missiles.
nypost.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I did some inconclusive poking around. Apparently a lot of gas from Western Russia does not have enough helium to merit its separation. Russia is relying on fields near the Amur to get its helium.
I cannot find numbers on cryogenic processing percentages for pipeline gas, so I’m walking my earlier claim back for lack of data.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ukraine orders up 36 hours of HIMARS O'clock!Putin orders 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine for observance of Orthodox Christmas
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine to observe Orthodox Christmas over the weekend.
“Based on the fact that a large number of citizens professing Orthodoxy live in the combat areas, we call on the Ukrainian side to declare a cease-fire and give them the opportunity to attend services on Christmas Eve, as well as on the Day of the Nativity of Christ,” Putin’s order, published on the Kremlin’s website, reads.
Putin called for the ceasefire “along the entire line of contact between the parties in Ukraine” and requested it last from noon on Friday through Saturday.
The order comes after the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, called for a ceasefire during the holiday weekend. In the Kremlin statement, Putin said he was taking into account Kirill’s request.
There was no immediate word from the office of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Zelensky, criticized the ceasefire request from Kirill early on Thursday, saying the Russian Orthodox Church acts as a “propagandist of war.”
“The Russian Orthodox Church has called for the genocide of Ukrainians, encouraged mass murders, and insists on even greater militarization of the Russian Federation,” Podolyak tweeted. “Therefore, the statement of the Russian Orthodox Church about the ‘Christmas truce’ is a cynical trap and an element of propaganda.”
Putin also discussed a settlement in the war on Thursday with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, according to a readout from the Kremlin.
The Turkish leader expressed a desire to mediate a political settlement of the conflict and Putin “reaffirmed Russia’s openness to a serious dialogue,” adding that Ukraine must “take into account new territorial realities.”
Ukraine called for a 10-point peace proposal last month, including the complete withdrawal of troops from his country.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at the time that “Kyiv is not ready for dialogue” in response to the proposal.
“We will not talk to anyone under such conditions,” Lavrov said in an interview with state media last month.
Putin’s new call for a ceasefire comes after a deadly New Year’s Eve strike on a Russian temporary base in the eastern region of Donetsk, which Moscow this week said killed 89 soldiers. It was the deadliest single attack on Russian forces in the war.
Putin orders 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine for observance of Orthodox Christmas
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a 36-hour ceasefire in Ukraine to observe Orthodox Christmas over the weekend. “Based on the fact that a large number of citizens professing Orthodoxy…
DIY-HP-LED
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How many? Uncle Sam has 5000 I believe and they are due for replacement, allies have them too.
www.cnn.com
US to send Bradley vehicles to Ukraine as part of new aid package | CNN Politics
The United States will supply Ukraine with Bradley fighting vehicles as part of a new security assistance package to the country as it nears the one-year anniversary of Russia's invasion.
Budzbuddha
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Quote:
" – Babe, these are just Khokhols (a Russian derogatory term for Ukrainians – ed.), they are just rubbish, just dust, damn it. Why do you even care about them? F**k, it is our nation that will be wiped off the face of the earth. It is our people who will be killed there, and those not killed will be crawling and begging for mercy. Forget about their nation; it will no longer exist. Wait a bit longer: it will be wiped off the face of the earth and that’s it; there will be no more of this hatred of Khokhols. [‘Khokhol’ is a derogatory word for Ukrainians used by the Russians - ed.]
They are to blame for what they have done, so the sooner they all die, the better.
– And children?
– I don’t give a f*ck about them either. I f**king despise their children, children of these motherf**kers. These bastards are taught to hate Russians in summer camps. A Khokhol child should be f**king strangled immediately. Right away, in the f**king womb. This is what I will do. This is what I am doing. Well, okay, bye.
Okay, kiss-kiss."
DIY-HP-LED
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Only the best people! He sounds kinda stressed out to me, like he's had some traumatic experiences and doesn't expect to get out alive! He's just lashing out.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i have to wonder, if russia survives this war they started, will this cause them to have stricter controls and supervision, not just in their military, but across their whole society? a nation that lets their military get in this kind of condition can't possibly be keeping up with much else. their electrical grid, sewage systems, water systems, rail lines, harbors, bridges roadways, all have to be in disrepair. their aircraft have to be suffering, military and civilian.
simple things like elevators, escalators, air conditioners, home appliances are more than likely starting to have problems as replacement parts become rarer...both through sanctions and not having the man power to run some industries, because they're all dead in a ditch in Ukraine...