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DIY-HP-LED

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looks like someone is getting a new toy.......150km range...yes please

Good, just the thing to take out Russian rail bridges at their rear. How big a bang does a small diameter bomb pack?
It seems a bit late for this summer though.



How the GLSDB long range weapons system could change the war in Ukraine I DW News

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The United States is expected to send a new longer-range weapon to Ukraine. The Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb can send missiles more than 150 kilometers - roughly double the range of Ukraine's current longest-range weapon. That would enable the Ukrainian army to attack Russian forces from a greater distance AND far behind enemy lines. The weapon is made jointly by the American aerospace company, Boeing and Sweden's SAAB.

Meanwhile Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskyy has said his country deserves to start talks on joining the European Union "this year." The comments in his nightly address followed initial meetings with Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, ahead of a joint EU-Ukraine summit due later in Kyiv.
 

Fogdog

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How incredibly sad especially for Russia, but also Ukraine and everybody else.

“In this particular area, the Russians have employed around 40,000 to 50,000 inmates or prisoners,” Mr. Salm said. “They are going up against regular soldiers, people with families, people with regular training, valuable people for the Ukrainian military.”

“So the exchange rate is unfair,” he added. “It’s not one to one because for Russia, inmates are expendable. From an operational perspective, this is a very unfair deal for the Ukrainians and a clever tactical move from the Russian side.”

Moscow has thrown people it sees as expendable into battles for decades, if not centuries. During World War II, Joseph Stalin sent close to one million prisoners to the front. Boris Sokolov, a Russia historian, describes in a piece called “Gulag Reserves” in the Russian opposition magazine Grani.ru that an additional one million “special settlers”— deportees and others viewed by the Soviet government as second-class citizens — were also forced to fight during World War II.

“In essence, it does not matter how big the Russian losses are, since their overall human resource is much greater than Ukraine’s,” Mr. Salm, the Estonian official, said in a follow-up email. “In Russia the life of a soldier is worth nothing. A dead soldier, on the other hand, is a hero, regardless of how he died. All lost soldiers can be replaced, and the number of losses will not shift the public opinion against the war.”



More than 200,000 dead on the Russian side and more than 100.000 on the Ukrainian side. By those counts, Russia is winning.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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How incredibly sad especially for Russia, but also Ukraine and everybody else.

“In this particular area, the Russians have employed around 40,000 to 50,000 inmates or prisoners,” Mr. Salm said. “They are going up against regular soldiers, people with families, people with regular training, valuable people for the Ukrainian military.”

“So the exchange rate is unfair,” he added. “It’s not one to one because for Russia, inmates are expendable. From an operational perspective, this is a very unfair deal for the Ukrainians and a clever tactical move from the Russian side.”

Moscow has thrown people it sees as expendable into battles for decades, if not centuries. During World War II, Joseph Stalin sent close to one million prisoners to the front. Boris Sokolov, a Russia historian, describes in a piece called “Gulag Reserves” in the Russian opposition magazine Grani.ru that an additional one million “special settlers”— deportees and others viewed by the Soviet government as second-class citizens — were also forced to fight during World War II.

“In essence, it does not matter how big the Russian losses are, since their overall human resource is much greater than Ukraine’s,” Mr. Salm, the Estonian official, said in a follow-up email. “In Russia the life of a soldier is worth nothing. A dead soldier, on the other hand, is a hero, regardless of how he died. All lost soldiers can be replaced, and the number of losses will not shift the public opinion against the war.”


More than 200,000 dead on the Russian side and more than 100.000 on the Ukrainian side. By those counts, Russia is winning.
I don't think the count is as high on the Ukrainain military side, more in the 50K range, Russian medical care is so poor that large numbers of wounded die. Aside from tactics, training and military philosophy, technology changes the equation, in particular airpower, which the Ukrainians have so far be denied. The Russians are already having serious problems with housing, training, feeding and equipping large numbers of mobiks and many had to buy their own kit. There are serious logistical and leadership issues as the officer corps has been decimated.

The Russians must act before the new heavy arms the Ukrainians are receiving will be fielded and troops trained, that will put them smack in the middle of mud season until spring, when new equipment will be deployed against them. The Russians have already lost a lot of equipment including small arms and ammo is being supplied by North Korea and drones by Iran, China is keeping it's distance, we hope.
 

cannabineer

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I don't think the count is as high on the Ukrainain military side, more in the 50K range, Russian medical care is so poor that large numbers of wounded die. Aside from tactics, training and military philosophy, technology changes the equation, in particular airpower, which the Ukrainians have so far be denied. The Russians are already having serious problems with housing, training, feeding and equipping large numbers of mobiks and many had to buy their own kit. There are serious logistical and leadership issues as the officer corps has been decimated.

The Russians must act before the new heavy arms the Ukrainians are receiving will be fielded and troops trained, that will put them smack in the middle of mud season until spring, when new equipment will be deployed against them. The Russians have already lost a lot of equipment including small arms and ammo is being supplied by North Korea and drones by Iran, China is keeping it's distance, we hope.
we don’t know how the information has been filtered. We probably will have decent numbers only in retrospect.
 

Blutri

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I forget the name of the stuff catalytic converters are made with, but the majority of it comes from the Ukraine. So what pay some defenseless poor farmers for it when your buddy Putin can take it from them you.
They choose to kill people instead developing a peaceful solution to a problem that’s growing quicker than they can solve it.
Having all the palladium in the world isn’t going to fix what’s going on right now. Thats because the only thing war and palladium will fix is greedy peoples pockets.
Maybe they will figure it out before it’s too late. FYI, That rocket isn’t going to be big enough to carry everyone.
You want to know what’s really messed up….they got Putin out there fighting basically with sticks and stones. Hell the Ukrainian farmers have those. Putin should feel stupid as he further weaken the Russian state. It just shows you what’s happens when a country is left starving. Just ask Kim Jong Un
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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^ 14 leopard 2s and 88 leopard 1s from germany :clap:
I don't think they are done yet either, plus there are other leopard 1s left in western Europe, different ammo though. There should be more leopard 2s coming as well, Canada only gave 4 and we don't exactly need the other 80 for defense! Deal with and destroy the fuckers now, or spend a fortune on future defense against them. After the Ukrainians are finished with the Russians they won't be much of a conventional threat to anybody for a decade at least. They will be fucked militarily and economically with their energy markets destroyed, perhaps permanently as we transition to more sustainable sources and Ukraine displaces them as a NG supplier. They will be economically and militarily weak with a strong Ukraine at their throats and perhaps Belarus gone to the west too and if that goes so does Kaliningrad.
 

CCGNZ

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He has to do it as not will be the death of the Russian State. Russian population is declining. The Ukrainians are Slavic's, the same people. Ukraine is an artificial state, with programming they can be changed back into Russians. If not, Ukraine will be changed into a Western state. This would be the death of Russia as it is now as the truth about the West will leak into Russian society and it may look pretty darn good to the Russian people. The ruling class will find they will be looked at unkindly at that point.
I'm part Slavic(50% Polish),so are Serbs,Czechs,Slovacs,Bulgarians,etc.,while I understand the historical the historical ties w/Ukraine/Russia a little,the Russians have always looked down on them,Stalin even tried to starve them out and the majority of Ukraine wants complete independence from Russia.I grant that in Eastern Ukraine a good amount of people identify w/Russia and also I know Russia ceded Crimea to Ukraine in the Soviet days when it was just a formality. Crimea is a very vexing issue and is key as it controls the Black Sea and without it Russia is screwed in power projection. This whole thing is a nightmare and Putin has staked his political survival on it while he sits on the world's largest inventory of nukes. Negotiation is the only option to resolve this and both sides are doubled down on complete victory. A complete defeat of Russia without nukes being unleashed is a pipe dream IMO,especially w/Putin alive and calling the shots,initial hopes of a coup in light of the abject failure of the initial invasion have sadly been dashed. In our justifiable hopes for a Russian defeat we seem to be overlooking the end game,we certainly can't have Russia conquer and control the whole Ukranian state while also understanding a complete Russian defeat looms ominous. It's going to take a hell of a mediation process to foster a final result agreeable to both sides that ends this while also preventing future hostility,in the absence of Putin being overthrown (the window seems closed),Good luck.
 

CCGNZ

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I don't think they are done yet either, plus there are other leopard 1s left in western Europe, different ammo though. There should be more leopard 2s coming as well, Canada only gave 4 and we don't exactly need the other 80 for defense! Deal with and destroy the fuckers now, or spend a fortune on future defense against them. After the Ukrainians are finished with the Russians they won't be much of a conventional threat to anybody for a decade at least. They will be fucked militarily and economically with their energy markets destroyed, perhaps permanently as we transition to more sustainable sources and Ukraine displaces them as a NG supplier. They will be economically and militarily weak with a strong Ukraine at their throats and perhaps Belarus gone to the west too and if that goes so does Kaliningrad.
LED,-5 here in SE,MA,2 bottles of dry gas and car barely fired up,big ass white pine down in my yard,FKN mess a coupleK to clean up for sure,kept water taps dripping,ran electric heater in cellar, what a night -40 w/wind chill, gotta be FKN artic in Nova Scotia,your posting so I guess your good.
 

Horselover fat

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I don't think they are done yet either, plus there are other leopard 1s left in western Europe, different ammo though. There should be more leopard 2s coming as well, Canada only gave 4 and we don't exactly need the other 80 for defense! Deal with and destroy the fuckers now, or spend a fortune on future defense against them. After the Ukrainians are finished with the Russians they won't be much of a conventional threat to anybody for a decade at least. They will be fucked militarily and economically with their energy markets destroyed, perhaps permanently as we transition to more sustainable sources and Ukraine displaces them as a NG supplier. They will be economically and militarily weak with a strong Ukraine at their throats and perhaps Belarus gone to the west too and if that goes so does Kaliningrad.
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1488 is all I'm saying :lol:
 
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