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So was another ditty that went, Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. Sung to the tune of Barbara Anne.I believe it was an American country tune decades ago
So was another ditty that went, Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. Sung to the tune of Barbara Anne.I believe it was an American country tune decades ago
The Ukrainians might be having a tough time with uncertain funding issues, but the Russians are having a tougher time of it and their military power is being whittled away tanks, radar systems, SAM batteries, and AWACS planes. Every week the future threat to Europe and even Ukraine is reduced as their equipment and ammo is used up and their economy shrinks or collapses. I'm sure there will be EU aid and the assholes in the US house are down to a one seat majority, so it should come through eventually.Ukrainian Air Force spots another Russian A-50 AWACS aircraft over Sea of Azov
Another Russian A-50 airborne early warning and control (AWACS) plane has appeared over the Sea of Azov, Ukrainian Air Force spokesman, Yuriy Ihnat, said on national television on Jan. 19.
The plane is “testing its fate,” Ihnat said.
The appearance of a new A-50 is no real surprise, since Russia has several such aircraft in service, he pointed out, adding that despite, a temporary lull in enemy air sorties after recent attacks, Ukraine could not afford to relax its vigilance.
Ukrainian forces shot down an A-50 AWACS plan over the Azov Sea and damaged an IL-22M11 airborne command post on the evening of Jan. 14.
This represented the first-ever documented downing of an airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft in history, according to Ukrainian military news outlet Defense Express.
Ukrainian Air Force spots another Russian A-50 AWACS aircraft over Sea of Azov
Another Russian A-50 airborne early warning and control (AWACS) plane has appeared over the Sea of Azov, Ukrainian Air Force spokesman, Yuriy Ihnat, said on national television on Jan. 19.news.yahoo.com
I just want to see the Ukrainians knock another one out of the skies, Putin breaking more chairs.The Ukrainians might be having a tough time with uncertain funding issues, but the Russians are having a tougher time of it and their military power is being whittled away tanks, radar systems, SAM batteries, and AWACS planes. Every week the future threat to Europe and even Ukraine is reduced as their equipment and ammo is used up and their economy shrinks or collapses. I'm sure there will be EU aid and the assholes in the US house are down to a one seat majority, so it should come through eventually.
I wanna see Ukraine acquire the capability to tumble from afar a Backfire warming up its Kh-22/32 cruise missiles. Surely a backchannel whisper from us (where, when) could be allowed to reach certain ears.I just want to see the Ukrainians knock another one out of the skies, Putin breaking more chairs.
They don't have to many left and a general was aboard one of them that went down. If they can eliminate some more, then when the F16s do arrive they will be much safer and more effective. This cripples their air defense.I just want to see the Ukrainians knock another one out of the skies, Putin breaking more chairs.
A starlinked drone with a sidewinder(s) or Aim AA missile might do it, a stealthy drone(s) could lurk in the area at low level and popup to shoot them down. It doesn't need to dog fight and is basically one way and can move slow. Knock one or two bombers down and then they could use cheaper drones to spook them in the future.I wanna see Ukraine acquire the capability to tumble from afar a Backfire warming up its Kh-22/32 cruise missiles. Surely a backchannel whisper from us (where, when) could be allowed to reach certain ears.
No to LarStink.A starlinked drone with a sidewinder(s) or Aim AA missile might do it, a stealthy drone(s) could lurk in the area at low level and popup to shoot them down. It doesn't need to dog fight and is basically one way and can move slow. Knock one or two bombers down and then they could use cheaper drones to spook them in the future.
I'm pretty surprised and happy that the Russians haven't copied the US in converting some of their older Typhoon SSBN's into SSGN's and using them to reign down cruise missiles,converted Ohio class SSGN's are capable of launching a pretty astounding 154 cruise missiles, which is equivalent to the amount of Tomahawk cm's carried by a WHOLE surface battle group.I wanna see Ukraine acquire the capability to tumble from afar a Backfire warming up its Kh-22/32 cruise missiles. Surely a backchannel whisper from us (where, when) could be allowed to reach certain ears.
Well, there are the Oscar-class boats, one of which is being or has been converted to carry the Poseidon supertorpedo, a spite weapon if there ever was one.I'm pretty surprised and happy that the Russians haven't copied the US in converting some of their older Typhoon SSBN's into SSGN's and using them to reign down cruise missiles,converted Ohio class SSGN's are capable of launching a pretty astounding 154 cruise missiles, which is equivalent to the amount of Tomahawk cm's carried by a WHOLE surface battle group.
A country with an economy far smaller than Italy's, in an existential fight in Ukraine and run by a kleptocracy can afford nuclear weapons and submarines? Not to mention a large army and airforce, can they afford all this? Their oil revenue dried up and their economy is on the rocks, under sanctions and their main source of revenue is gone. Canada has a bigger economy than Russia and more of an industrial base and we have about the same population as Ukraine. The Ukrainians have been fighting them with one hand and more tied behind their backs with a just in time trickle of military aid. No wonder the Europeans feel so confident these days and Germany and others know they have a decade to build back up its military. Every week the Ukrainians are making Europe more secure by destroying Russian military power and equipment.Well, there are the Oscar-class boats, one of which is being or has been converted to carry the Poseidon supertorpedo, a spite weapon if there ever was one.
Oscar-class submarine - Wikipedia
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It looks to me like Russia (Vladolf) focused its limited military budget on nuclear showpieces, like restarting Blackjack production, producing the Sarmat heavy ICBM (a descendant of the SS-9 Scarp, capable of FOBS missions with heavy or multiple warheads) and the Belgorod conversion of an Oscar to carry six Poseidon (Status-7) torpedoes. These are massive things driven fast and far by a nuclear propulsion stage and bearing a rumored 100-Mt warhead for a “radioactive tsunami” mission against coastal metropolises.A country with an economy far smaller than Italy's, in an existential fight in Ukraine and run by a kleptocracy can afford nuclear weapons and submarines? Not to mention a large army and airforce, can they afford all this? Their oil revenue dried up and their economy is on the rocks, under sanctions and their main source of revenue is gone. Canada has a bigger economy than Russia and more of an industrial base and we have about the same population as Ukraine. The Ukrainians have been fighting them with one hand and more tied behind their backs with a just in time trickle of military aid. No wonder the Europeans feel so confident these days and Germany and others know they have a decade to build back up its military. Every week the Ukrainians are making Europe more secure by destroying Russian military power and equipment.
I fear this is what Putin's dirty money is paying the MAGA controlled GOP congress to do. They have zero motivation to pass funding to supply Ukraine in its war against Russian colonization. They can stand on their principles when they do it too. They can point at the deficit and tell us it was for the good of the country's economy, they can point at the decreasing numbers of arms in the US armory and say it was for the good of US defense, the can talk about the immorality of supporting war, they can evoke isolationism and talk about 'murrica first! And behind all of that is dirty money flowing into Trump's PAC and into GOP political campaigns. For them Ukraine's losses are win, win and win for them.'Incredibly stark': Biden aides give lawmakers a grim assessment of Ukraine without more aid
'Incredibly stark': Biden aides give lawmakers a grim assessment of Ukraine without more aid
The president’s national security aides said in a private meeting this week that Russia could win the war within weeks if Congress doesn’t act.www.nbcnews.com
They also have a one seat majority in the house with an election looming and are a bunch of antisocial morons and miscreants. Europe has a vital interest and many of the countries in the EU have larger economies than Russia, Canada has a larger economy than Russia. Logistics win wars, and right now Vlad has his hands around the throat of American aid, via Trump who is on his way down in flames.I fear this is what Putin's dirty money is paying the MAGA controlled GOP congress to do. They have zero motivation to pass funding to supply Ukraine in its war against Russian colonization. They can stand on their principles when they do it too. They can point at the deficit and tell us it was for the good of the country's economy, they can point at the decreasing numbers of arms in the US armory and say it was for the good of US defense, the can talk about the immorality of supporting war, they can evoke isolationism and talk about 'murrica first! And behind all of that is dirty money flowing into Trump's PAC and into GOP political campaigns. For them Ukraine's losses are win, win and win for them.
I don't make predictions here but just stating why it's probably not in Republican lawmaker's interests to support Ukraine.
You might have sounded out the words but you didn't actually read my post. The GOP is funded in a meaningful way by dirty money from Putin. They need that money in order to have a chance at keeping power. They have no motivation to vote for more funds to Ukraine and their voters will accept their reasons for turning it down. They were, are and will be a minority party in the US. They win by suppressing votes, not winning them.They also have a one seat majority in the house with an election looming and are a bunch of antisocial morons and miscreants. Europe has a vital interest and many of the countries in the EU have larger economies than Russia, Canada has a larger economy than Russia. Logistics win wars, and right now Vlad has his hands around the throat of American aid, via Trump who is on his way down in flames.
Pundits have different opinions about these things, and they are closer to events than I, but that one seat majority does mean something when enough of the GOP senate is on side, not that they need to be. Ukraine has other allies and EU funding seems to be coming through since they cornered Orban. I don't like the situation, but there is little we can do but watch and speculate.You might have sounded out the words but you didn't actually read my post. The GOP is funded in a meaningful way by dirty money from Putin. They need that money in order to have a chance at keeping power. They have no motivation to vote for more funds to Ukraine and their voters will accept their reasons for turning it down. They were, are and will be a minority party in the US. They win by suppressing votes, not winning them.
So, yes, they stand to lose this fall but at least be realistic about what they are doing and why. It's going to be a close election in congress and they are sticking to a playbook that makes sense politically, if not from a moral point of view.