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Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
hey al you still running the sweet tooth #4? spice of life no longer stocks that, but they have something callled donk and i was wondering if youve heard of it? im looking for a max yield with at least decent quality to run in your style op. your suggestion would be much appreciated.
Yup, still propagating ST4 that I sprouted in 2002. I understand Blockhead is very close to ST#4. Donk looks very pretty, I'd like to have that one. I'm in the market for beans soon; would like to diversify a bit. I'd esp like to find some in Australia, getting beans across the int'l border is grief ridden these days. SoL Seeds have served me very well over the years. Any indica dominant strain will work well in a SoG op.

Life is all about the work we must do, it sucks at times but hey, it's better then being homeless...:-(
The grow op still pays most of my bills. I do the writing gig because... um... because.... well, hell, I'll let you know why when I work it out. :D
 

Sub Zero

Well-Known Member
By chance, do you know David and Lyn Raats? They would have nothing to do with what we do and like, quite square if you know what I mean?
They are are from Straya, Bet Bet area, I bought and sold gold with them for a couple of years... Just wondering...
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
nope, I don't. Mind, the q you have asked is that same as saying to an Angelino, 'Oh, you're from LA, do you know Bernie Schwartz?' :lol:
 

don2009

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lol dame al I thought you be gone I love to hear what you got to say its just so profound and hood at the same time I wish you were on here all the time. I just thought of something let's pay you a dollar for each ? cuz you are worth it, just to keep you around I bet that will stop you from working,(with all the fans you have) and you seem like one of THEM when you say you got to leave us for a while All our hopes just goes down for growing n everything else when you say that. You should see everybody threads always talking bout you. (Your our star) Hey why dont you put together some lectures for your followers and really be a thread to the world cuz you really shine bro, i know we will love to see you in person and vibe with you. Yeah lectures to grow should be your job fuck the bullshit travel to any state or country and we will pay they will pay to see you. From reading your threads you say "nah man im no one everyone know this or can do it" But not the way you do or teach us I really think you can be a greater person I know if you say your doing a lecture somewhere in USA or amsterdame I will pay to hear you, and all your other fans will love that, come on godfather of RIU. I feel like i'm talking to someone famous right now it's crazy to me. I wrote you a few weeks ago, and you respond back like you do to everyone it just made me more eager to be as cool as you. I dont think you understand your power. Our star AL B. FUCT
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
I wrote you a few weeks ago, and you respond back like you do to everyone it just made me more eager to be as cool as you. I dont think you understand your power. Our star AL B. FUCT
Don, thanks so much for your kind compliments. However, I fear you praise me a bit too much. I'm just a stoned slacker growing dope and helping others learn from where I've fucked it up, which I do remarkably often.

WHO'S Bernie Schwartz??? I guess I could Google that!
Just a random name. The point is that there's 20 million ppl in Australia, as there are in LA- and an Angelino is as likely to know all of them as I am to know the folx you asked me about. ;)

I forgot to mention, I have 9 foot ceilingsss:bigjoint:
Doesn't matter. Tall plants are not the friend of the indoor grower. SoG is a method that was developed mainly to cope with the limitations of artificial lighting. Even the mighty 1000HPS can only penetrate foliage so deeply. By flowering clones as soon as they set root, SoG keeps plants short, which puts all the foliar mass in the most usable part of artificial light.
 

DarkCursade

Active Member
No I meant that I have 9 foot ceilings in regards to my heat problem. Im unsure if you have seen my previous post and or its just a nightmare to answer, I know tall plants sux, I cant wait till I can chop them down they are taking up 2 much space, I normally only cut small clones, then straight into flowering ending up about 50-70cm tall. These 3 plants were an exception though.:dunce:
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
No I meant that I have 9 foot ceilings in regards to my heat problem. Im unsure if you have seen my previous post and or its just a nightmare to answer, I know tall plants sux, I cant wait till I can chop them down they are taking up 2 much space, I normally only cut small clones, then straight into flowering ending up about 50-70cm tall. These 3 plants were an exception though.:dunce:
I thought I had answered your previous post. Have I missed it?

Your tall plants are likely being caused by excessively high air temps. The high ceiling will help to some degree in keeping warm air away from your plants, but if you have oscillating circ fans going in the space, as well you should, the warm air up high is going to be circulated around the space anyway.
 

greengenius

Member
Hey Al. First off, Thank you.

This is the first hydro op I've ever put together. I didn't order the parts but after taking inventory, I realized that everything I had was almost identical to your setup. I set up the plumbing ventilation spacing and even switched to fytocell (after having inconsistent results with rockwool) using your thread as a blueprint. The subtle differences turned into individual problems which were solved by committing fully to your methods. I'm a happy grower thanks to you.

Now, of course, I have some questions if you don't mind.

Some plants are really healthy. Others were stunted and remained that way for one reason or another. All recieved same treatment. Can you tell me how to prevent this?


Since I'm growing sativas and i'm new to sog, the pruning has been very confusing. Would you have pruned this plant the same way?

week 2


week 4


week 7


And finally, I came accross this bubba strain that's blowing my mind. The plant grows in a straight line with not a lot of nodes and very short branching. The smoke is amazing but the plant doesn't seem to like sog...

would topping the mother and cloning the mainstem with the 2 tops work create a better yield? The plant grows in a straight line with a little number of nodes spaced out and very short branching. An 8" clone is finishing barely at a foot tall. But the bud looks too good to pass up.


Once again, you've been a huge inspiration, and I appreciate any help you provide.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hey Al. First off, Thank you.

This is the first hydro op I've ever put together. I didn't order the parts but after taking inventory, I realized that everything I had was almost identical to your setup. I set up the plumbing ventilation spacing and even switched to fytocell (after having inconsistent results with rockwool) using your thread as a blueprint. The subtle differences turned into individual problems which were solved by committing fully to your methods. I'm a happy grower thanks to you.
Thanks very much for the compliments. Glad it's working for you. :)
Now, of course, I have some questions if you don't mind.

Some plants are really healthy. Others were stunted and remained that way for one reason or another. All recieved same treatment. Can you tell me how to prevent this?
The stunted plant is exhibiting a fault called 'rosetting,' making small leaves and little vertical growth, caused by root probs. Root disease often follows overwatering, either while still in the clonebox or later in the flowering area. Fytocell can be overwatered, but it's not easy. If you're watering 1x/lights on, water every other day at lights on. Apply H2O2 50% grade @ 1ml/L in the nute solns every 3-4 days. Dump tanks, clean and renew nute solns biweekly.

Since I'm growing sativas and i'm new to sog, the pruning has been very confusing. Would you have pruned this plant the same way?
Yep, looks great, nice work. :) All you need do is remove the branching on the lower 1/3 of the plant, once at the end of wk1 and again at the end of wk3.

And finally, I came accross this bubba strain that's blowing my mind. The plant grows in a straight line with not a lot of nodes and very short branching. The smoke is amazing but the plant doesn't seem to like sog...
Indica dom hybrids generally work better in SoG as they have a more squat habit. Purer sativas tend to get leggy, not the best for keeping the bulk of the foliar mass in the highest intensity light.

would topping the mother and cloning the mainstem with the 2 tops work create a better yield? The plant grows in a straight line with a little number of nodes spaced out and very short branching. An 8" clone is finishing barely at a foot tall. But the bud looks too good to pass up.
You should be taking your clones from the fattest stems you can get off your mums. As you take cuttings from mums, their growth will divide and they will produce several >10mm stems for cuttings every 2 weeks, provided they're being hit with some strong light. I use a 400HPS on my 10 mums, but a 250 HPS or 175MH would do for 6-8. When doing a batch of cuttings, nip off any very small branches from the mums, encourage the stronger branches to grow to make some nice fat stems for the next batch of cuts.
Once again, you've been a huge inspiration, and I appreciate any help you provide.
no wuckin' furries, mate. :)

Keep up the nice work. :)
 

Bob Smith

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Hey Al, as long as you're still popping your head in, what are your thoughts on these:

http://www.amhydro.com/index.php/Do-It-Yourself-Components/199-3-x-3-Net-Well-Insert/flypage.tpl.html

For my next setup, basically copying your grow - 4 3x3 tables, two 1K lights (although the DIY cooltube/Adjust-a-Wing thing isn't for me, so I'm gonna get some Magnum XXXL reflectors, which are 30x38, so about the same - they're also air-cooled, obviously).

Just wondering if you saw anything inherently flawed about using those inserts - because I use (and reuse, so the less I use, the easier to wash) hydroton, I like that I can use much less medium and allow the roots to really grow under the cover (in theory) - any issues that come to mind that would be problematic with using these?

EDIT: I'm still experimenting with what rooting method/medium I like the best - have done bubbles, directly in hydroton in E&F, Rapid Rooters, and have a run of 100 clones in rockwool right now. That being said, since my new setup is gonna be so dialed in (a couple of grand just in HVAC and shit like that, so I'll be able to keep the temp and RH very constant), I'm thinking that I'm going to go aerocloning, so if you were thinking that the rockwool would get too wet in that system, that's not a worry right now.

Wow could that have been more succinct; my apologies.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hey Al, as long as you're still popping your head in, what are your thoughts on these:

http://www.amhydro.com/index.php/Do-It-Yourself-Components/199-3-x-3-Net-Well-Insert/flypage.tpl.html
Not necessary. Save your $130 per copy.

For my next setup, basically copying your grow - 4 3x3 tables, two 1K lights (although the DIY cooltube/Adjust-a-Wing thing isn't for me, so I'm gonna get some Magnum XXXL reflectors, which are 30x38, so about the same - they're also air-cooled, obviously).
I can't see if these have both air intake and exhaust duct flanges- do they? As long as you can make a closed air circuit with them, drawing air into the fixture from outside the room airmass and dumping it there as well, they'll do fine.

Just wondering if you saw anything inherently flawed about using those inserts - because I use (and reuse, so the less I use, the easier to wash) hydroton, I like that I can use much less medium and allow the roots to really grow under the cover (in theory) - any issues that come to mind that would be problematic with using these?
Yep, 3 points: a) There's no need for the inserts. b) If roots escape the pots, they'll knit and make the plants necessarily stationary until harvest. It's good to be able to move plants around since they generally don't grow identically in height- nice to be able to move the shorter ones closer to the light. c) The inserts will create a moisture trap; water will condense on the underside of the insert- you're thus likely to see mould/mildew growth on them. The peroxide-treated nute soln won't come in regular contact with the underside of the inserts, all but guaranteeing you'll see mould/mildew on them.

Use pellets, completely clean all root matter from them, sterilise them and reuse them if you like, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that you get 100% sick of cleaning pellets by crop 3.

My only advice on cloning media is to avoid anything made of organic matter (coir, peat etc). It can be food for pathogens, mould, etc. and H2O2 will tend to make the stuff fragment. If you're using pellets, the bits can get loose, into the nute soln, possibly fouling pump impellers.

Rotsaruck. :)
 

Knickers

Well-Known Member
Hey Al B,

Good to see you round mate, Ive enjoyed reading your informative posts over the year(s) and was glossing over them again for some inspiration. I see that youve used UV for air purification, and I seem to remember you talked a bit about ozone generators. What are your feelings about the harmful side effects of ozone on plants/humans, and are you still using this technology?

Peace!
 

SeanIzen

Active Member
This is going to sound obvious... but you most grow the most killer bud ever man!
I can only aspire to one day be as much of a "shaman" of marijuana growing as you seem to be around here hahahaha
 

KittyCat

Member
Al, really, really appreciate all you advise. I've made an "Fuct Bible" containing all of your posts that aren't you just repeating yourself for noobs. :)

I would like a quick post from you detailing your handling of your mums.

3X3 tray, 450 light in cooltube. What size pot and contents? Same Flock & rockwool in the bottom? Nute soln specs? Ebb & Flow? How often? I know you prune twice to get them ready, then take cutting for 4-6 times before you turn them to compost. Right?

Thanks again!
 
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