what do you think of advanced nutrients?

have you used advanced nutrients?


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BROBIE

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"The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) published in 2012 a report with an assessment of average greenhouse gas emissions resulting from charging plug-in car batteries considering the full life-cycle (well-to-wheel analysis) and the fuel used to generate electric power by region in the U.S."

And directly after that report on the wki page is this.......

"The following table compares well-to-wheels greenhouse gas emissions estimated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for series production plug-in electric cars from major carmakers available in the U.S. market by April 2012. For comparison purposes, emissions for the average gasoline-powered new car are also included. Total emissions include the emissions associated with the production, transmission and distribution of electricity used to charge the vehicle."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car



We're not concerned with your opinion, were concerned with facts and you don't have any.
ok fuck it. What does that article by "concerned scientists" aka brain-washed greenies have to do with the argument that a battery car barely if ever is more green? 33 MPG is a wash. It's a fucking scam. Your Brit "concerned Scientists" were caught falsifying data just to help their false cause of global warming

I'm outa here..going to lick some cunt.
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
13 pages and op prob still has no fking decent advice on his post..all you dip shits arguing about shit not related to topic should remember that this is a forum to HELP people not jack there thread and argue about dumb ass shit.
you missed the post earlier where I showed OP was just a troublemaker, Never take AN threads seriously anyways
 

The Yorkshireman

Well-Known Member
ok fuck it. What does that article by "concerned scientists" aka brain-washed greenies have to do with the argument that a battery car barely if ever is more green? 33 MPG is a wash. It's a fucking scam. Your Brit "concerned Scientists" were caught falsifying data just to help their false cause of global warming
"The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) is a nonprofit science advocacy organization based in the United States. The UCS membership includes many private citizens in addition to professional scientists. James J. McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography at Harvard University and past president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, currently chairs the UCS Board of Directors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Concerned_Scientists
http://www.ucsusa.org/




Climategate -......

"A number of independent enquiries have investigated the conduct of the scientists involved in the emails. All have cleared the scientists of any wrong doing:

  1. In February 2010, the Pennsylvania State University released an Inquiry Report that investigated any 'Climategate' emails involving Dr Michael Mann, a Professor of Penn State's Department of Meteorology. They found that "there exists no credible evidence that Dr. Mann had or has ever engaged in, or participated in, directly or indirectly, any actions with an intent to suppress or to falsify data". On "Mike's Nature trick", they concluded "The so-called “trick”1 was nothing more than a statistical method used to bring two or more different kinds of data sets together in a legitimate fashion by a technique that has been reviewed by a broad array of peers in the field."
  2. In March 2010, the UK government's House of Commons Science and Technology Committee published a report finding that the criticisms of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) were misplaced and that CRU’s "Professor Jones’s actions were in line with common practice in the climate science community".
  3. In April 2010, the University of East Anglia set up an international Scientific Assessment Panel, in consultation with the Royal Society and chaired by Professor Ron Oxburgh. The Report of the International Panel assessed the integrity of the research published by the CRU and found "no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work of the Climatic Research Unit".
  4. In June 2010, the Pennsylvania State University published their Final Investigation Report, determining "there is no substance to the allegation against Dr. Michael E. Mann".
  5. In July 2010, the University of East Anglia published the Independent Climate Change Email Review report. They examined the emails to assess whether manipulation or suppression of data occurred and concluded that "we find that their rigour and honesty as scientists are not in doubt."
  6. In July 2010, the US Environmental Protection Agency investigated the emails and"found this was simply a candid discussion of scientists working through issues that arise in compiling and presenting large complex data sets."
  7. In September 2010, the UK Government responded to the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee report, chaired by Sir Muir Russell. On the issue of releasing data, they found "In the instance of the CRU, the scientists were not legally allowed to give out the data". On the issue of attempting to corrupt the peer-review process, they found "The evidence that we have seen does not suggest that Professor Jones was trying to subvert the peer review process. Academics should not be criticised for making informal comments on academic papers".
  8. In February 2011, the Department of Commerce Inspector General conducted an independent review of the emails and found "no evidence in the CRU emails thatNOAA inappropriately manipulated data".
  9. In August 2011, the National Science Foundation concluded "Finding no research misconduct or other matter raised by the various regulations and laws discussed above, this case is closed".
Just as there are many independent lines of evidence that humans are causing global warming, similarly a number of independent investigations have found no evidence of falsification or conspiracy by climate scientists."
 
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BROBIE

Well-Known Member
"The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) is a nonprofit science advocacy organization based in the United States. The UCS membership includes many private citizens in addition to professional scientists. James J. McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography at Harvard University and past president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, currently chairs the UCS Board of Directors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Concerned_Scientists
http://www.ucsusa.org/
So, All it states is that it has the same co2 exhaust as a 33mpg car so what? USA is not Europe . we are much more spread out and Bigger, like our penises. Whe have more like 25 mpg cars and trucks and the report doesnt take that into consideration.
 

The Yorkshireman

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So, All it states is that it has the same co2 exhaust as a 33mpg car so what? USA is not Europe . we are much more spread out and Bigger, like our penises. Whe have more like 25 mpg cars and trucks and the report doesnt take that into consideration.
"As of June 2014, the United States has the largest fleet of highway-capable plug-in electric vehicles in the world, with over 226,000 plug-in electric cars sold since 2008, with California accounting for about one third of nationwide total sales. As of June 2014, the U.S. is the world's leader in plug-in electric car sales with a 45% share of global sales."
 

BROBIE

Well-Known Member
"As of June 2014, the United States has the largest fleet of highway-capable plug-in electric vehicles in the world, with over 226,000 plug-in electric cars sold since 2008, with California accounting for about one third of nationwide total sales. As of June 2014, the U.S. is the world's leader in plug-in electric car sales with a 45% share of global sales."
Yea and all that was due to gov handouts . and 226 k in 6 years is shit. Battery cars are a waste of money. The Volt is doomed. Have you been in the USA? We sell 17 million + a year.
 

BROBIE

Well-Known Member
"The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) is a nonprofit science advocacy organization based in the United States. The UCS membership includes many private citizens in addition to professional scientists. James J. McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography at Harvard University and past president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, currently chairs the UCS Board of Directors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Concerned_Scientists
http://www.ucsusa.org/
That's a good one. The impartial group. sure. Look up some of the shit they got caught doing with their own numbers.
 

The Yorkshireman

Well-Known Member
17 million cars a year until your country pisses off the middle east and Russia to the point that you pay as much for your petrol as I do then you'll see how much you drive that 25mpg car.

I drive a 25mpg car as it happens and the petrol at the end of my road is £1.27 per litre (and that's damn cheap) which is about $2.06.
 
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chuck estevez

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17 million cars a year until your country pisses off the middle east and Russia to the point that you pay as much for your petrol as I do then you'll see how much you drive that 25mpg car.

I drive a 25mpg car as it happens and the petrol at the end of my road is £1.27 per litre which is about $2.06.
over $8 a gallon, Yikes
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
Tax mate.

Your juice is subsidised to fuck, it's like Americans think they've got a God given right to cheap fuel.
I live in a state that has more fuel tax than most, but still. we are at half of what you're paying
My nephew just came here from the U.K for the first time, I guess you guys don't get much to eat there either.
 

BROBIE

Well-Known Member
Tax mate.

Your juice is subsidised to fuck, it's like Americans think they've got a God given right to cheap fuel.
America does not subsidize it's gas, they subsidize the corrupt corn lobby by forcing us to buy food fuel.
But we do need to tax the shit out of it more to pay for the roads instead of separate construction bills
 
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