dolamic
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Is that In-School Suspension? That brought back a lot of memoriesISS - Love ISS, not sure how it crosses. (Someone should cross Blueberry and ISS)![]()
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Is that In-School Suspension? That brought back a lot of memoriesISS - Love ISS, not sure how it crosses. (Someone should cross Blueberry and ISS)![]()
Let's say I have $2,000 to spend on the best genetics I can buy ... stable genetics. IBL's BX's ...... What strains would you purchase as a package and use to create your own line of seeds? Name a few strains and breeders and maybe why you would follow that line ... what your goal would be. But you can't spend more than $2,000.
This might take a little research ... maybe too much for a stoner. lol But maybe some of you pro's already have some answers and already know the prices of some of these ... 10 packs etc. I don't want to start with less than 10 of one strain while searching for my babies. And I want all the ones that pop ... preferably all of them to be somewhat uniform in what they were bred true for.
I myself would select for Indica lines and probably a good amount of Skunk.
But what would you do with $2,000 and a plan to start your own seed line ... maybe you already have.
Mr. Diamond
I love seeds.
skunk #1 is an OK buzz, but not a personal favorite, but DNA sour cream has a similar euphoric mid stone buzz, but is fuhreekin' DELICIOUS! the blueberries i've scored have had a similar buzz too, but i still like sour cream better as it has a fuller and more authentic flavor. blueberry always tastes weak like a single grain of artificial blueberry sugar on your tongue. but that's probably because whoever i got it from was using sodiums. i'm going back to low yielding halides. the flavors are more intense. i gre sour cream under a sodium though, and e ven then, it still had more flavor than BB and walks all over skunk #1... to me anyways. i'm planning on giving my john sinclair amsterdam skunk away some day. i thought his sativa trans love was an exception clear headed generic haze because it flowers so freakin' fast and is a compact plant. my favorite skunk is DNA's lemon skunk for the flavor, the color, and the fact that there isn't much stone going on in it.I would either use IBL's like skunk#1
IMO there are so many excellent lines out there already, there is simply no point to spending the considerable amount of effort and time to try and creating your own unless you're trying to create something specific that isn't out there already. If you just want to create a bunch of great ceeds, just start with your 2-3 favorite strains, cross them into a boat-ton of F1 ceeds and though you won't really have bred your own line, you'll have enough ceeds to last you for literally years. This shouldn't take anywhere near $2000, unless that money include airfare to pick up the seeds/clones in person!
One idea I have is to create the ultimate stealth autoflower plant. I mean something that finishes quickly, indoors or out, any time of year, that simply isn't recognizable by most people as a cannabis plant.
So you want a potent purple short autoflower with non-standard leaf shape. I believe there are already people working on webbed autoflowers; this would be something along those lines.
As to which lines to start with, there is certainly more ways than one to skin this cat, but I'd at least start with some potent short autos, a strongly purple plant, and something with non-standard leaf shape. Duckfoot, maybe, but there are others.
for real I would rather chuck around some pollen myself then pay for tga seed. their is actually one breeder that breeds with his shit though. lol, its bog seeds Lifesavers A cross of SubCools JCB and my BOGBubble can't say I would recomend that breeder either https://www.seedboutique.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=6&products_id=14&osCsid=1928faf7f8356a7ca7fa714b77dbaffaGrr I wrote a whole rant and it erased it because I wasn't logged on. lol
I just want to say when TGA is brought up that their seeds are 90% garbage ... from my experience. They have great smells and tastes. But that's it ... usually. There's an occasional keeper in a pack of 50 or more. lol I can buy the best strains I want in Seattle so I don't know why I wasted my time with TGA gear. All I got was a bunch of over stretched giants with miniature midget arms for branches. I think I'll stop waisting my money on TGA and stick with the classics.
Northern lights, Blueberry, Skunk #1, Jack Herer and a ton more. I have found Serious seeds, DJ Short Seeds, Mr. Nice seeds and Sensi seeds to be my favorite breeders for stability. There's a few more. But I have found great success with their lines. Some of them are cheaper than TGA gear and their THE BEST! lol
Any way, I'm not buying anymore TGA gear unless they stabilize their strains. I'll stick to the tried and true EXPERT breeders. I'm sure TGA will improve with time. But I don't recommend them yet.
Mr. Diamond
I love seeds!
It's not so HARD as it is tedious and time consuming. You just need to breed out 7 generations to make a stable strain. Start with 2 plants and cross them. Cross 2 of their offspring (f1's) together and take thebest of THOSE offspring (f2's) and repeat until you have f7 babies which are stable genetics. No need to backcross unless you want to make the plant more like one parent than the other.Not enough seed breeders already in the world? I get a kick out of folks that figure this is an easy... or even relatively easy way to make money. The fact is most folks have no clue as to whats involved in a successful breeding program. "Most" folks have no clue just how much effort and time is needed to back cross to create a stable and useful genetic.
For example this "then grow it all mix n match n see what happens" is NOT good science! If you want to waste time AND money... by all means follow this kind of thinking... you will surely end up with mostly CRAP that you wouldn't want to duplicate for any reason. I say "mostly" because you just might wind up with a winner... BUT the willy nilly aproach will ensure that you simply can NOT duplicate the positive results.
If you do enter into your own breeding program I wish you luck and success, do a TON of research on proper procedures for creating a stable strain. Keep the science pure and accurate or you will have thrown away your initial investment.
alp
Although this is absolutely correct, it glosses over one critical thing.It's not so HARD as it is tedious and time consuming. You just need to breed out 7 generations to make a stable strain. Start with 2 plants and cross them. Cross 2 of their offspring (f1's) together and take thebest of THOSE offspring (f2's) and repeat until you have f7 babies which are stable genetics. No need to backcross unless you want to make the plant more like one parent than the other.
really its not too bad for a hobby grower that just wants too grow different shit all the time. if I where too chuck some pollen I'd get two killer strains like super silver haze and cross her with either ak-47 or black widow you'll have so many phenos but most all will be damn good and I'm sure you'll find one or two that can be the next best calli clone only. my only problem is their so much stuff from DJ Short, Chimera, Mr. nice, sensi, Dutch Passion, serious seeds, etc., ect. that I would love to try but I've only been at it for less then 3 years except for when I was younger messing around with bagseed. I can't see the point in breeding especially if they legalize it soon theirs just so many breeders out their you really don't have a good chance too become the next subcool. but some can't really afford too buy seed in that case by all means buy two good strains open pollinate all males from 1 strain and all females from the other you'll never see the same plant twice.I'm a pollen checker.
I do not have the space/time/patience to grow out phenos, test them, then decide to keep them or not. Then back cross them...
for real lol, I saw subcool's breeding room on youtube dude had an 8 x 8 grow tent just chucking the pollen its like wtf my room is nicer then a breeders room, lmao. but then you got Shantibaba with some of the biggest greenhouse's I've ever seen in my life.i say do it but make shure you got money to fall back on some people cough cough make their living with the flower if you plan on being a big world provider good luck i looked at some breaders wear houses some are straight pimp pro and clean and some look like hill billy set ups.. not saying there shit aint bomb but DO IT>> IT"S FUN.....check out you tube...