Pepe le skunk
Well-Known Member
One of the things about hybrid strains from breeders seeds you can buy is if you cross them to try and recreate the strain in an f1 they will not produce the same results. Most breeders do this so their strains cannot be reproduced just by crossing the seeds they are selling. The plants of a hybrid will have 50% of one parent and 50% from the second and these will not be stable and that's if it is just a 2 way cross. If a clone only strain is selfed even these are not 100% stable and are not necessarily exactly like the female clone. Not saying you cannot have good results but chances are they will not be stable.
One method of breeding that will help you is to look at how people bx square a clone. If I were to do some breeding I would first bx square a select female and try and get as close to that strain first. You will want to stabilize two strains or bx square them before you make a 50/50 cross as a new strain. Then you can take a male and female bx clone to breed out for a 50/50 stablized strain.
ex. of 2 ibl strains that are mostly uniform already.
step 1. (1)Durban sativa select pheno female. bx square the female. (2) Afghani #1 female Indica select pheno. Bx square the female. (4-5 crosses back to the select female of choosen pheno gives you 99% original mother plant you've selected first)
step 2. (1)Durban sativa bx square male from bx squared seeds X (1) Afghani #1 female from bx squared seeds.
step 3. Pollinate the female Afghani #1 with pollen from male durban. This gives you a 50/50 hybrid that will produce f0 cross. 80% of those seeds should be some what uniform.
(this is what some breeders sell you) In the F1 and the F2 the seeds will not be as uniform as F0 seeds.
Step 4 depends what you want to do. f3 seeds could start to help select to make the 50/50 cross stable but more inbreeding would be necessary.
This is not always how breeding will turn out but getting an IBL to be consistant first is usually the best way to begin if you want stable seeds. Otherwise your plants will have lots of swing as to what they will produce.
For all the people who might comment on this example it is just that, an example. I already know there are different ways to breed so not looking to argue any of these points.
Hope that helps
Edit: Here are a few I would consider for IBL strains.
Durban
Afghani
Burmese
Malawi
Maple leaf Indica
Mazer e
One other sativa from South America. (ie brazillian/ Mexico/ columbia/ Panama/ Jamician ect.)
One method of breeding that will help you is to look at how people bx square a clone. If I were to do some breeding I would first bx square a select female and try and get as close to that strain first. You will want to stabilize two strains or bx square them before you make a 50/50 cross as a new strain. Then you can take a male and female bx clone to breed out for a 50/50 stablized strain.
ex. of 2 ibl strains that are mostly uniform already.
step 1. (1)Durban sativa select pheno female. bx square the female. (2) Afghani #1 female Indica select pheno. Bx square the female. (4-5 crosses back to the select female of choosen pheno gives you 99% original mother plant you've selected first)
step 2. (1)Durban sativa bx square male from bx squared seeds X (1) Afghani #1 female from bx squared seeds.
step 3. Pollinate the female Afghani #1 with pollen from male durban. This gives you a 50/50 hybrid that will produce f0 cross. 80% of those seeds should be some what uniform.
(this is what some breeders sell you) In the F1 and the F2 the seeds will not be as uniform as F0 seeds.
Step 4 depends what you want to do. f3 seeds could start to help select to make the 50/50 cross stable but more inbreeding would be necessary.
This is not always how breeding will turn out but getting an IBL to be consistant first is usually the best way to begin if you want stable seeds. Otherwise your plants will have lots of swing as to what they will produce.
For all the people who might comment on this example it is just that, an example. I already know there are different ways to breed so not looking to argue any of these points.
Hope that helps
Edit: Here are a few I would consider for IBL strains.
Durban
Afghani
Burmese
Malawi
Maple leaf Indica
Mazer e
One other sativa from South America. (ie brazillian/ Mexico/ columbia/ Panama/ Jamician ect.)
