Well I never said either side is right, I'm sorry for not stating the atheists POV. So what I'm getting at is it's ok to make fun of religion or science (not a good thing just acceptable) but it is not ok to make fun of the believer whether the person believes in a god(s) or science or anything else.
Yes. Absolutely. The beauty (or repugnance depending on how you look at it) of the Freedom of Speech. I personally see it as beautiful that all sides can be examined.
+ rep for you because our convo is a example of how religious people and atheists can still agree and put aside their beliefs to just get along and avoid arguing.Yes. Absolutely. The beauty (or repugnance depending on how you look at it) of the Freedom of Speech. I personally see it as beautiful that all sides can be examined.
I'm not an atheist.
Hmm oops sorry, ha. Either way I still stick next to the rep because we had a peaceful convo that did not lead to arguing which is what has been happening lately when it comes to religion. May I ask what you believe in?
It's rather easy when it's a person from one said with a person who doesn't care either way.
I would appreciate a well thought out response from you beardo about this post if you don't mind.
How do you know it's God and not your imagination or a voice inside your head speaking to you? Your subconscious mind framing conscious thoughts? And if you don't know for sure it's God, how can you possibly attempt to manifest these thoughts and make them become reality? I'm not trying to sound harsh, but that is the behavior of a mentally unstable person.
A contradicting effort it would seem.
That is INSANE beardo. You don't fuckin' eat people because you believe God exists?
So apparently those with power don't prey on those weaker than them in our world, because God exists.
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Any thoughts on this?
Clearly they're not because you can't even answer the question I asked you. If they were truly words directly from God, you would be able to tell me HOW you know they're coming from God and not just inside your own head.
And why would an omniscient being choose to select good ol' beardo to transmit biblical messages again?
I'm afraid you've shown with this post you're an irrational human being. I'm not engaging with you in the future anymore, you simply choose to deny all the evidence all of us have presented against literally everything you've brought to the table. There isn't a single thing that somebody hasn't given you a well thought out, concise explanation for and yet you still think this way.
Hep, beardo is looooong gone, but I do believe there is still a lot of potential in you, use this as an example of those questions you were asking earlier. Look at a believers thought process ^^. According to the believer, whatever God does is right, no matter what it is. He could murder babies, rape women, steal little girls tricycles... it's all right in the eyes of the fanatic because it's their god whose doing it. Yet one of us follows the father by example and we're sinners condemned to a pit of fire for eternity. Look at this situation closely, does that make any sense to you? Do you believe the god you believe in would design such a system? What do you think this says about these beliefs? How do you think a person like beardo could have reached the point he's at now?
I might take that into consideration if it wasn't completely inconsistent.
You hear voices inside your head (just like everyone else) but you attribute them to supernatural beings. This is one of the symptoms of mental instability. I've studied psychology, am by no means anywhere near being a professional in the field, but even an amateur with no training could tell you that. I would seriously suggest you speak to someone professionally about the voices you hear. See what they have to say about it.
A completely empty statement with absolutely no meaning. Humans are animals, get over it.
Because, some of us, have higher cognitive capabilities than other animals. What the hell are you even saying?
Because it's fucking wrong to murder someone and eat them! I find it VERY FUCKING UNUSUAL I would need to explain something so simple to a fully grown adult human being.
You don't eat people because you believe in God and they don't package human meat in the supermarket?
I'd like to know how you rationalize that, what with nearly 100% of the world being religious for the entirety of human history, it would appear we're in a state of emergency. The fanatics will say it's because not enough people believe, but how the fuck much more do you need than 100%?!
What would you suggest is a more effective way to communicate the idea that organized religion is dangerous to the believer?
people dont join cults because they endorse murder. they join because they really believe it is the path to heaven or whatever. they see it as their religion, just like christians see christianity as their religion. usually the leader of the cult will groom them for a few months or maybe even years. after that, the people believe in it so much that they will be a lot more willing to follow the leader, whatever his path may be. they may believe he is god himself, or he has a direct connection to god. the leader then tells them that god wants them to do this or that. they follow orders because if they dont, hell will be waiting for them.
yeah cults can get CRAZY. i think Jeffs is in a coma because he did a hunger strike in prison haha. hes still trying to control the group from inside. im sure its working too. you cant just flip a switch and stop believing. those people are so fucked in the head lol
Yeah sorry about that I skimmed through You and beardo's posts, so I didn't see it. But I didn't take it offensive I was just stating that nobody can group religious intellect together simply because it would just be to far fetched. So yeah sorry if I came off as a dick.
You pull this one off, I'm sending you to the Middle East on a first class ticket.
How could God be wrong?
Yeah I get what your saying and honestly I don't know. I don't agree with him and with my morals I would say he is wrong. But his morals may be different so I guess he is right but it doesn't mean I'm gonna go do all those things he has done. He may have had a plan and that is why he did that. But don't let your opinion of me turn to that of your opinion towards beardo (I'm not saying anything bad about you beardo) and begin thinking I am crazed, I am just a human and have no idea if god is right or wrong. But I will have faith in him and his actions because he promises love and peace, and does not command us to sin but demands the opposite. Sorry if my answer did not satisfy your question but your question actually stumped me, ha.
I don't hate anyone for the things they believe, but it seems no matter how many times I say that, it gets brushed under the rug. You guys want to think whatever you want to think. If you think I hate you for the beliefs you hold, you're mistaken, I'm sorry, but that's all there is to it.
What is a more effective way to communicate the idea that organized religion is dangerous to the believer?
Religion has never had the mentality of "live and let live", ever. You're fooling yourself.