That info is hugely helpful. Thank you for breaking it all down and explaining things so thoroughly!Yeah. Ones in the lower end of the plant and in the middle down there that never get direct light on them. Be selective and don't worry too much about whether to take or leave one as it really won't make a huge difference. Cannabis is very well suited to loosing parts of itself without causing any problems. Heavy defoliation is just such a waste in my opinion as the plant just turns it's energies to making more leaves rather than growing the whole plant. I mean they're the solar panels that power the plant and mother nature wouldn't grow them if they weren't critical to the plant's health.
If the plants are low on some nutrients they pull them from the older leaves so they also act as storage for times of need so you don't want to go crazy. The nodes draw a lot of energy to grow so like I said you can just nip them out and leave the leaves on if they are getting light. Now instead of feeding that node they help feed the whole plant. The plants have a circulatory system like we do so everything is always moving to where it's needed the most. It's a whole chemistry lab in there working 24/7 to make things work.
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amneziaHaze
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if you have 2 leafs growing one above the other the bottom one will allways be wet and attract mold.also it will not produce food since its dark you cut him down
Thank you for sharing that. I appreciate when members share additional info incase I'm not aware of something.
Mold is a concern that's been on my mind. Mostly because some of the big fan leaves blanket the top growth on branches. I'm not sure how to combat that since the big fan leaves are vital to the plants and the top growth on branches are future bud sites. Kind of a conundrum.
About to hit them with 5ppm chlorine. I opened a tote that i haven't opened in a few days and was greeted with transparent slime/goo on portions of the roots. I only noticed it because I had just finished defoliating that plant and wanted to make sure the roots were still submerged after spinning the netbasket to trim.
Another day, another dilemma, lol. Accidently snipped the skin off a branch while snipping a node site. Should I tape it to protect from bacteria/infection?Yeah. Ones in the lower end of the plant and in the middle down there that never get direct light on them. Be selective and don't worry too much about whether to take or leave one as it really won't make a huge difference. Cannabis is very well suited to loosing parts of itself without causing any problems. Heavy defoliation is just such a waste in my opinion as the plant just turns it's energies to making more leaves rather than growing the whole plant. I mean they're the solar panels that power the plant and mother nature wouldn't grow them if they weren't critical to the plant's health.
If the plants are low on some nutrients they pull them from the older leaves so they also act as storage for times of need so you don't want to go crazy. The nodes draw a lot of energy to grow so like I said you can just nip them out and leave the leaves on if they are getting light. Now instead of feeding that node they help feed the whole plant. The plants have a circulatory system like we do so everything is always moving to where it's needed the most. It's a whole chemistry lab in there working 24/7 to make things work.
OldMedUser
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No.
You can always just remove a finger or two from a leaf or just parts of a finger to let a lower bud site get light. Use clean snips.
When one leaf lies on top of another moisture from the upper leaf as it transpires from stomata on it's lower surface can be trapped which can cause a brown spot to form on the top of the lower leaf. Not a big problem but has the potential to allow a fungal infection to start there. I call it leaf sweat.
I will have to try that. I defoliated one plant but leaves are still touching each other on the top of the branches where one branch is just below another and just below a fan leaf. They all three blanket each other. Was thinking about removing the bottom branch in those areas as light isn't reaching them anyway and the branches are shorter so I presume they won't catch up and just produce tiny popcorn buds.
The plant I defoliated decided it would be a good idea to eff with my day. Got her defoliated and opened the tote lid to make sure her roots hadn't got caught up on the airline tubing from rotating the netbasket and.... I'm sure you know what I'm about to say... Globs of transparent goo/slime hugging some entangled roots. I guess that explains why a plant that was the same height a few days ago is now a couple inches taller than she is. The other plants dont appear to have the goo.
I've been sick the last couple days and my sense of smell has been meeker at best. I couldn't tell if the system still had a chlorine smell so I waited to add more shock since the prior dose lasted 5 days. Today was day 5 so I hit the system with 5ppm. I suppose I will need to have the neighbor come by daily until my nose clears up, to sniff for a shock smell so I know when it's time to dump in another gram of shock.
I'm starting to think my inkbird temp controller is off. I don't use it to control temp but keep the sensor in the rez for easy monitoring.
OldMedUser
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I don't think it's critical that you make sure all the chlorine from the last dose is gone before adding more. In fact it's likely to allow any bad bacteria from the rot to grow as the chlorine level drops to zero. I would probably add smaller amounts of chlorine sooner to maintain a level strong enough to keep killing pathogens constantly. Like when you have to take antibiotics you don't let the level get too low or the strongest of the bacteria you are trying to kill can spread more and then be harder to kill. Just because the levels of chlorine for drinking water should be 5ppm or lower doesn't mean a stronger dose is going to be bad for the plants. I haven't drank chlorinated water for 30 years as that shit causes cancer. And added fluoride makes you dumber so I'm thankful I've never drank fluoridated water. Natural fluoride in water isn't harmful but the crap they add to water is different and used widely on grapes in particular as an insecticide.
You shouldn't be rotating your net pots once the roots get entangled with roots from the other plants or they will get torn and those wounds are great places for bacteria to get in and infect the roots.
I'd aim for 10ppm chlorine for a dose to stomp any bad bacteria.
Each plant is in its own 12g tote. The entangled roots I was referring to was a single plant who's roots were entangled. I didn't untangle any roots.
10ppm, really? It's good to know I don't have to worry about overdoing it. I completely understand what you mean by keeping chlorine levels up. Now that I know I can accidently exceed 5ppm I feel comfortable not waiting for the smell to disappear before adding more. I will go ahead and add another 5ppm to bring it up to 10ppm.
OldMedUser
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I thought you had all 4 in one tote.
10 parts in one million is such a minuscule amount you could probably go much higher than that without harm but don't quote me on that.
I could use up to 10X the usual amount of peroxide when having root problems with no noticeable effect on the plants but I don't know what would happen if you did that using chlorine.
Aapoo
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No power lines? Looks like a beautiful chunk of land.Go ahead and use some but I wouldn't go over 1/2 the max amount on the label. I mostly used AN for 20 years and always used RO or distilled water. Our tap water comes from a dugout on my property and is about 400ppm and pH 8+.
Decent sized dugout as you can see from the pic I took recently with my new drone.
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OldMedUser
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There's big power lines on the left side of that pic across the road if you look close. Our main power line comes under the highway to a pole on our side then lines up in the air going to another pole beside the shop. You can see that lighter green strip in front of the house going toward the road where they came in and first cut down some tall trees then ran a big mulching machine to chew everything up a few years ago. It's all growing back in now but should be a few more years before any other trees need cutting. They're all poplars and many have died off due to flooding problems and also just old age. Damn things sprout off from the roots all over and pop up in the garden and gradually take over the property.
No power lines or even a neighbour looking right to the west of us. Nothing but field for a mile then more trees. Flat like a pool table here.