White hairs on baby plant?

Puff_Dragon

Puff_Dragon

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funny enough, with non-autos, I've found if I limit pot size and veg time ..I can dwarf plants too :) (clones, and most seed strains I've grown)
 
Puff_Dragon

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LowRange said:
You reckon they are no good to stick in a veg tent of photo plants to fill in the gaps and get some early bud rolling in?
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I didn't think about autos for that, its a good idea.
Again, with my limited knowledge, I thought they flowered best at 18/4 or above. So at 12/12 (or below) bud size, maturity times and bud density would be effected.
I do already use standard photo period plants to fill small gaps though.
By limiting plant size, pot and veg time (before putting into flower tent with larger plants). That way their size is restricted and they are happy to flower in the gaps between the big girls. And, in a 12/12 cycle (or less) without stress.
 
twentyeight.threefive

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VincenzioVonHook said:
What I find even funnier about this whole solo cup cult is that is bad enough trying to sustain anything bar a seedling in a solo cup full of medium, they then refuse to even fill the solo cup. It's like, how much further do you want to go to handicap your plant. This one isn't too bad, but I've seen plants in half a solo cup worth of drenched medium at week four or five, and the op is asking why it isn't growing. It's like asking why a fish is dying in front of fan.

It gets even funnier when they reply with "I was going to transplant it when it got big enough". They haven't put two and two together yet. It won't get any bigger lol. It's in half a cup. Not even a cup.

Back in my day, people specifically used solo cups when they wanted a tiny plant, nowadays everyone grows in half a solo cup asking why their plants are so small...as information becomes more readily available we should be moving forwards lol.
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You can grow pretty large plants relatively speaking out of a solo. Just because most can't doesn't mean it isn't possible.

Have you never seen a properly grown out plant to flower in a solo? Solo cup challenges?

Solo doesn't equal small.
Bad grows equal small.
 
VincenzioVonHook

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twentyeight.threefive said:
You can grow pretty large plants relatively speaking out of a solo. Just because most can't doesn't mean it isn't possible.

Have you never seen a properly grown out plant to flower in a solo? Solo cup challenges?

Solo doesn't equal small.
Bad grows equal small.
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I've seen plenty, but it takes constant work. Why not just use a normal pot and water like a normal person? If your goal is to specifically grow a plant in a solo cup only, yea sure, but if it's to have a normal plant, it's just limiting yourself for no good reason. A pot is a few cents. Medium is a few dollars. If you are going to do something, you may as well try.

This doesn't look like a solo cup challenge. It looks like someone with a stunted plant wondering why it's stunted. Context is important. You can also grow a small plant in an immaculate setting, it doesn't mean everyone should.
 
twentyeight.threefive

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VincenzioVonHook said:
I've seen plenty, but it takes constant work. Why not just use a normal pot and water like a normal person? If your goal is to specifically grow a plant in a solo cup only, yea sure, but if it's to have a normal plant, it's just limiting yourself for no good reason. A pot is a few cents. Medium is a few dollars. If you are going to do something, you may as well try.

This doesn't look like a solo cup challenge. It looks like someone with a stunted plant wondering why it's stunted.
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My point is that the solo cup has nothing to do with why it's stunted. As you stated, if it was properly cared for it'd be bigger. That's all.
 
VincenzioVonHook

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twentyeight.threefive said:
My point is that the solo cup has nothing to do with why it's stunted. As you stated, if it was properly cared for it'd be bigger. That's all.
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So are we supposed to ignoring that 90 percent of plants that are stunted on here are in solo cups, and just keep watching the circus instead of solving the problem once and for all? They aren't trying to do a solo cup challenge, they are trying to grow a plant that will hopefully yield.

If most people that don't have immaculate feeding techniques struggle to get a decent plant in a solo cup, why keep defending it? It is clearly harder to maintain and is sub optimal environment for any plant that's not a seedling, period. People want to optimise their temps, humidity, feeding and more, but won't optimise their container choice out of sheer obsession with solo cups. It's baffling.
 
twentyeight.threefive

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VincenzioVonHook said:
So are we supposed to ignoring that 90 percent of plants that are stunted on here are in solo cups, and just keep watching the circus instead of solving the problem once and for all? They aren't trying to do a solo cup challenge, they are trying to grow a plant that will hopefully yield.

If most people that don't have immaculate feeding techniques struggle to get a decent plant in a solo cup, why keep defending it? It is clearly harder to maintain and is sub optimal environment for any plant that's not a seedling, period.
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You are missing the point... By the time a plant in a solo cup needs to be transplanted it should be more than a tiny string bean of a plant.

These small plants you are referring to have nothing to do with them being in a solo cup...
 
VincenzioVonHook

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So, the usual strawman arguments every time I say that solo cups aren't optimal for anything bar a seedling.

"Someones managed to grow a good plant in a solo cup before so your wrong, have you never seen a good plant in a solo cup?"


No, your wrong, haven't you seen the thousands of shitty stunted plants in solo cups here? The point is that I've seen far better plants that aren't in solo cups, so why keep sucking solo cups dicks?
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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VincenzioVonHook said:
So, the usual strawman arguments every time I say that solo cups aren't optimal for anything bar a seedling.

"Someones managed to grow a good plant in a solo cup before so your wrong, have you never seen a good plant in a solo cup?"


No, your wrong, haven't you seen the thousands of shitty stunted plants in solo cups here? The point is that I've seen far better plants that aren't in solo cups, so why keep sucking solo cups dicks?
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You start seeds in final pots. Lulz.

I start my plants in starter pots. Does that make you feel better if I call them that?

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VincenzioVonHook said:
That's right. I do the same, but in peat pots. I think they are 700ml. They stay in there for about a week, maybe 10 days if it's a slow rooter, and by then the roots are growing out the bottom and burrowing through the sides. Goes into 3-5gal pots when the roots are coming out.

No prob with solo cups of jiffys, just people keeping plants in there for weeks and wondering why the plants stunted. Should be common sense, and really, shouldn't be a topic up for debate. Above method Works well every time. It really shouldn't be so hard to grow seedlings. Progess over 8 days, as it should be. Most of hose seedlings in the first pic sprouted, and rooted out the peat pots withing 5 or 6 days.

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For references that's 155x70 closet, with 30x25 pots (4 or 5 gal), the middle ones are just on blocks to raise height. Most of the plants I see here in solo cups are smaller at four weeks. And, you don't "rinse all the nutes out" before the roots get to them. My last plant rooted out the bottom of a 5 gal pot in 20 days or less....
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Me saying u will rinse out all the nutes is just how I feel. I actually don’t know how much u will rinse out. I hear it growing to the bottom but what bout the sides? I imagine if u planted straight into a 5gal for example, with each watering the soil around the edges will be getting rinsed while no root growth has made it that far horizontally yet. Sure eventually but by then I feel like the soil would be far less rich than it was. I imagine the root system would look like in a hydro bucket, going mostly straight down not branching throughout the medium. Just how I think it would be. I could be wrong but that makes sense to me.
 
Southernontariogrower

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VincenzioVonHook said:
What I find even funnier about this whole solo cup cult is that is bad enough trying to sustain anything bar a seedling in a solo cup full of medium, they then refuse to even fill the solo cup. It's like, how much further do you want to go to handicap your plant. This one isn't too bad, but I've seen plants in half a solo cup worth of drenched medium at week four or five, and the op is asking why it isn't growing. It's like asking why a fish is dying in front of fan.

It gets even funnier when they reply with "I was going to transplant it when it got big enough". They haven't put two and two together yet. It won't get any bigger lol. It's in half a cup. Not even a cup.

Back in my day, people specifically used solo cups when they wanted a tiny plant, nowadays everyone grows in half a solo cup asking why their plants are so small...as information becomes more readily available we should be moving forwards lol.
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I like big pots, bigger the better, but am budding out small cut in 2 inch square pot. In a bowl so lm sure it wont dry up. Just wanted to see how bad it would be, pretty bad. Shes got a long time to go, yellow a f. But cute,
 

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These were two 'Hash Passion' regular seeds, freebe with an order.

Started in solo cups.
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Up potted at this size to 1 gal fabric pots.
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Then again to 5 gal fabric pots for final after a couple weeks, they this big.
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And today.
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Also use mycorrhizae each time, it makes a huge difference.

I'm collecting pollen from the male, but his days are numbered lol.

Still, I did the Up pot to 5 gal just to observe how he grows. It's pretty cool actually, completely different from the male I grew last season, he never showed balls until September, this guy's getting 18 hours light and spitting balls like it's the end of the world at 6 weeks old.

I love these plants, how they can be so unique and different even though same seed.
 
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