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Please.. you know what I meant.
I sometimes fail to resist a truly tempting straight line. cn
Please.. you know what I meant.
fair enoughI sometimes fail to resist a truly tempting straight line. cn
September 11? I thought there was a seperation of church and state.. and aids in Africa? My church's youth group went on a mission to West Africa to help AIDs and malaria victims. And all non denominational christian churches ive been to support scientific research.. even stem cell. I think you have been spending too much time reading about extremists and quakers.
Well I think you focus too much on the potential harm rather than the good that is done around the world everyday.I am sure at the time some Christians were appalled at the witch trials, that is beside the point.
You still aren't seeing the point of my criticism. In each of the cases I listed the problem can be distilled down to failure to properly question and honestly review their beliefs. Your church people do the things they do because they are good people, not because it is god's command, though I am sure they feel more righteous in thinking so. If they were really interested in carrying out god's commands, they would be willing to sacrifice their children when god gives the word, they would be okay with slaves, and okay with loving Jesus above family members, for this is the morality outlined in the bible. The reason they pick and choose the good commands, or morals, is because they are good people. These are not people who would rather not help anyone, but do so anyway out of strict adherence to scripture.
The good that comes from religion is non-proprietary and not due to dogma, yet the potential harm is demonstrably unique.
Well I think you focus too much on the potential harm rather than the good that is done around the world everyday.
But Christians as a whole arent going around crusading and burning alive alleged witches.. you guys are very focused on past events and you dont acknowledge the fact that most churches today acknowledge science.It's not at all worth it, not even close.
But Christians as a whole arent going around crusading and burning alive alleged witches.. you guys are very focused on past events and you dont acknowledge the fact that most churches today acknowledge science.
If they acknowledged science they wouldn't believe in god.
That need not be true, CT. cn
But Christians as a whole arent going around crusading and burning alive alleged witches.. you guys are very focused on past events and you dont acknowledge the fact that most churches today acknowledge science.
But Christians as a whole arent going around crusading and burning alive alleged witches.. you guys are very focused on past events and you dont acknowledge the fact that most churches today acknowledge science.
This isn't a bait thread, don't assume everything.
That's an honest question, and I'm trying to make a point. Beliefs shouldn't be respected just because somebody believes them. Do you agree, or disagree with that?
What makes a belief respectable, to you?
I can respect a person only so far as their beliefs carry them. Why would I respect a person if they believed that euthanizing the homeless was the right thing to do? Or that a person was less of a person because of the color of their skin?
Forgive me if you find this kind of conversation offensive..
True. But there's more evidence that there isn't a god then there is.
A lack of evidence is not evidence for a lack of a god...
A lack of evidence is not evidence for a lack of a god...
It's not a lack of evidence. The existing evidence is in direct opposition to the idea of a god.
Every time something new is found which God was responsible for previously, the goal posts are moved and usually, what's found is rejected until the church is forced to accept it.
It is, actually, if incomplete. It's suggestive but does not allow a conclusion. cn
...seems a little biased towards scientism at the same time. Neither is better, imho. Some of the tools in the non-believers belt were initiated by church-going scientists. I can list them if you'd like, though I have a couple of times here - as recently as a few days ago.
...seems about right "...and always will be"![]()