Why yes please put cheese on that! Blue Cheese clone DWC Bucket Grow - Ask away.

Thanks for all your info bro and nice roots those look sexy!

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Thanks for all your info bro and nice roots those look sexy!

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No problem, never will I say this is the WAY you should do it, or you should use certain products. I am just posting on my facts and data from using them, and frankly this whole RIU mentality of "my way or the highway" is sad. Every time I try to tell people my experiences with certian procedures or products the trolls leach on because someone told them this or someone told them this and damn it they said it so it should be correct!

Its just really taking its toll, as maybe its time to find another site or just drop posting on sites all together I really don't need to post, I can just read and troll.

Hey BigBuddah, I was just looking at commercial air pumps, and I was wondering if you have any suggestions. I use 5.3 gallon buckets (the rectangular kitty liter ones) and general i am with a 3" net pot, so the water level can be quite high.

I would like to drive 4-6 buckets with those 5" round air discs, my buddy used them and think they produce an exceptional amount of bubbles. What would you say is the min/max size pump. I would also like to have air available for a bubble cloner, and possibly 6 or so coffee can bubblers, but I can get different pumps or whatever for those.

I am looking at the 35 watt-65L/min & 20w 45L/min pumps, and anything similar to them. I used a small dual outlet pump from walmart on the last one with a 6" white sandstone airstone on the last one and did quite well. But, I know I could have done better.. And would definitely take your advice.

How long have you been working at this hobby buddha? When you are between soup changes do you tap it off with with ro or do you pre-mix say a gallon at a time? Just wondering because mine grow alot then hardly nothing right now i go about 2 weeks between changing it. Those roots look like a ball of noodles. When I grow up I want to be just like you.

The bigger the air pump the better remember you can turn down a bigger pump with the valves but you cannot make a smaller one produce more oxygen. I run a 110 lph pump that has 8 valves that are split between two grow buckets at 2 gallons so 16 at any one time off that pump.

I found the 2" cylinder stones work better then the blue discs or sticks. They are heavy produce nice bubbles are like 2 bucks... Love em although I run them in my 3.5 gallon buckets and their 1" cylinders in 2 gallons.

Thanks mxks but I am no where near perfect, nobody is. I am just taking my journey one step at a time like the rest of the people and trial/error along the way. Ya I had root issues like everyone else, but through trial, error more error I can be worry free most time about them now and concentrate on other areas that need improvement.

I am my worst critic, in everything and need data, facts and to see results for myself before I praise, knock or just inform someone about something.

I ran to Menards today picked up my first attempt soon on scrog buckets with moveable screens for mobility I want. Pics soon...

skunkybuds said:

man them buds are massive

if i do start growing which looking around here is tempting me lol
i would be interested in dwc, how hard is it???

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It has it's learning curve like other mediums, I like it because it's relatively clean and great yields. There are a lot of great tutorials that could fi your need, I am sure you will do great.

So you just usea 2 inch round stone per bucket? i bought the tubing not really a stone just thick tubing with hella small holes but it was 15 bucks and im pondering a 15 bucket grow so 2 bucks sound cool

Shivaskunk said:

So you just usea 2 inch round stone per bucket? i bought the tubing not really a stone just thick tubing with hella small holes but it was 15 bucks and im pondering a 15 bucket grow so 2 bucks sound cool

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Yes 2" cylinder stones just 2 bucks.

Hey Buddah, I'm interested in your Aqua Shield and Sweet method. It's obviously worked very well! How soon do you start putting the Aqua Shield and Sweet in to your res?

Day one... Until chop. Its cheap enough to use all the time gallon just 35 dollars.

I have the screen size and top done, the attaching to bucket is going to be tricky. I am thinking of just having legs support it from ground but moves too easily. Hmm... Maybe today mess with some more gotta finish jarring bubblegum and maybe chop down my AO finally. Close to 80 days on that sucker kinda stalled I think... To turn to amber.

Happy Mothers day to all you Mothers and Mother !@*&!@('ers!!

I am running out to my moms but I had a wake an bake moment I can't believe it's this simple for my SCROG thoughts... granted the net is not connected to the lid but I can figure a way to securely with adjustablitiy for the screen without cutting tons of pvc for different legs etc.. so this is about as practical and easy as I can see. I can lift the plant and the net/legs will come up with it, pretty light using CPVC not PVC so its not sch. 40 mostly for drinking water, but readily available at any home improvement. It allows nice rigidity with light weight I want.

Top net is green coated wire 2x3" squares for an 18"x18" screen ample for my plants in 2 gallon buckets but could be made bigger for bigger plants and buckets easily.



I might have time to do the Sharks Breath in flower now if I can slip this over, if not will do the Juicy Fruit I am flipping tonight. This is a beta stage now so I expect issues or problems that can be improved upon. This is for my requirements I like to move plants and need access in areas in my flower room sometimes so you may find something that is easier to do then this with cpvc like this.

Oh that's my 4 day bud dryer on the left bottom, just a big strong plastic box with two shelves in there from basement window screens and an inline 4" fan for ducts. Lie the buds in there and 4 days letter ready for jarring so easy and just as smooth as buddies who take weeks to dry then cure.. bah hum bug.

Oh and while I am rambling you know how everyone is crying about pulling fan leaves off, and defoliating is bad well researching this SCROG technique they rip leaves and cut fans more then I ever did or do. Yet everyone has excepted that as a "proper" way to grow? Come on you hypocritical trolls, I sometimes think these monkeys jump on these soapboxes to support their sides just to fight for something. You know.. someday you are going to get tired of fighting... peace.

You use a pump to change your soup or how would you do that?

I do have a bucket head wet dry vac that is like twenty buckets goes on bucket and use it to suck up water from buckets. Usually I just have a fresh bucket ready and switch out when I am switching them out for change.

I never ever change in veg cycle, flower it's changed three times at day 23 43 and then again when it's close to plain water for remainder. I use plain water not only to flush as I can't tell difference but to sav on nutes.

skunkybuds said:

how them lovely trees coming along??

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Awesome..

Here is garden flower at moment:

chemdawg. Day 43
sage sour day 45
Bubblegum 2 maybe two weeks left
Agent Orange same two weeks left
Blue Cheese has a week or bit more
permafrost has week left
sharksbreath at 24 days
black jack at 24 days
holy grail kush is at 24 days

Putting juicy fruit in scrog tonight will show and document process. Post pics tonight when lights flip.

Well Had enough of the Agent Orange today is chop day well half now half later.. lots of buds with 12 colas that are similar to this one:



so just 11 more.. ugh..

some bud shots :



Nice size nugs and solid as bricks and just stinks of citrus almost too much if thats possible.

Back to work:

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Looks good how much you figuring you are getting out of it? IDK you may have answered this somewhere but since you only change your nut. 4 times dont you need to add to it in between changes? and if you have to do you add straight ro water or the appopriate ration of nuts too? You ever take littles bits of everything and throw it into 1 joint?

mxks1987 said:

Looks good how much you figuring you are getting out of it? IDK you may have answered this somewhere but since you only change your nut. 4 times dont you need to add to it in between changes? and if you have to do you add straight ro water or the appopriate ration of nuts too? You ever take littles bits of everything and throw it into 1 joint?

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Agent Orange looks like 5-6 ounces.. man I just kept trimming and trimming.. so much I stopped and did the rest this morning. Now I am high on citrus smell alone, lol. It looked a lot less growing then I when I started cutting, man this plant gives even more reason I hate myself for not cloning!

I monitor my ppm's so yes I add as need to maintain the ppm range I am looking for. My plants deplete half their water in a 36 hour period so I would have to add nutes anyway, so most the time I mix up a 1/4 strength gallon jug and add that, then adjust but usually its pretty close not to add. I tested changing my nutrients every week, every two weeks, and now every three weeks which almost matches with the plants stages in flower which works wonderful. Guy who change their res every week are just blindly following erroneous information from other growers and the nutrient companies who benefit the most by more sales.

But ya.. just monitor your ppms if the plant is not eating them then just add RO water to drop it, if they are dropping ppms and eating more then yes add more. Being "in-tune" so to speak with the feeding is critical, which is why I love individual buckets because if you have multi-plants in a reservoir some eat more then others, and you never know which one or way to adjust.

I try to strike a perfect balance between quality and yield, but mainly quality is what I am after it's just my "A-Type" personality. No that doesn't mean I am better then everyone it just means I like my stuff a certain way, and I am usually the only one that can accomplish that to my standards, time frame, and cost efficiency.

Hell yea, that's the cool thing about running different strains to find the "one" or "few select" and then mix-match etc. I am all about trial and error, sometimes more error but we learn from mistakes don't we? Well I do, and hope you guys do too.

I think the Blue Cheese is coming down after the Agent Orange is out of the dryer in next couple of days. I will post up some BC pics and others from around the garden including a SCROG with the Juicy Fruit. This is my first, and we can learn together for people following my grow that are interested in SCROG. It is kind of a vague subject when you research it but I think I am getting the art form of it, I took it as screen weave it let it grow, well its a bit more but looks promising.

OK yeah i was one of those mislead individuals lol i have been changing mine every week maybe week and a half. so to tell how much it is eating I should fill my bucket adjust ph, measure ppm, add nuts, measure ppm again, and as the ppm falls thats how i know how much they are eating. so basicalliy when it gets back to the ppm from before adding nuts all the nuts should be used up theoretically. If you follow idk if thats a good explanation. I hope your scrog set up works well for you I am just trying to get through this first grow successfully before I try anything.

mxks1987 said:

OK yeah i was one of those mislead individuals lol i have been changing mine every week maybe week and a half. so to tell how much it is eating I should fill my bucket adjust ph, measure ppm, add nuts, measure ppm again, and as the ppm falls thats how i know how much they are eating. so basicalliy when it gets back to the ppm from before adding nuts all the nuts should be used up theoretically. If you follow idk if thats a good explanation. I hope your scrog set up works well for you I am just trying to get through this first grow successfully before I try anything.

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Here is what I do maybe it will clarify the process for you, as I am not sure on your explanation neither lol.

Day 1: Plant goes into flower at 900ppm in 2.5 gallon bucket.
Day 2: check plant, water level is usually 3/4 to 1/2 full from bottom of net pot where I keep my water. I fill it with RO water to net pot bottom. I check ppm if its higher I leave it and check/adjust ph now if its lower then I add just bloom to bring it back up to 900ppm or bit higher since 900 was not enough to begin with. I might go to 1000 or 950 then re-evaluate what the plant likes. Some say this method screws with your NPK ratio, well maybe so but I have not seen an ill-effect but using ton less nutrients. I change in 3 weeks so the NPK will be correct again within a short enough period.

Sidenote: If the plant is continuely go higher in ppm from the 900ppm I will change bucket to lower starting ppm.

Yes don't complicate things at first, get to where you are comfortable with your style then experiment and adjust. Basics basics basics.. goes a loooong way. It really is that simple many over complicate it to overcompensate for laziness.

So from what we were talking about before if you ppm falls below 1000 in the flower you will add a 1/4 strength nuts to a gallon and fill up the reservoir but if it is above 1000ppm you will fill with just straight ro water? hopefully maybe? lol once again thanks for all the answers.