Will my buds swell up some more?

ttystikk

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that sounds like the ticket to whats going on in the soil. pores for salts? or the salts are ions and get attracted to the chargse within the pores? probably a bit of both
PH is certainly ionic, and salts are all ions once they're hydrated, right?
 

iHearAll

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Interesting hobby ya got there! You do a lot of this kind of patent searching?
no im an electronics student and i found that i can make electrical storage cells using plant matter, NaOH, H2SO4, and some proton exchange membranes. so i memorized the lab procedure and gave it a try. i could never get an intert hydrolysis reaction. i had a crummy vac pump. i was using a plasma arc to get my 600-800C temps and it crystalized the NaOH beautifully. it also put out a monochromatic yellow d-line in the visible light. pretty much made a DIY sodium lamp lol. anyway its cheeper to buy these capacitors premade than it is to make them..
 

genna_mj

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all good lol

but anyway. check the back of a bottle of molasses. its got very miniscule amounts of K. agriculture grade should have more than that but it really isnt much. maybe a 0-0-.25 or so. dont get me wrong i still use it but just not solely. i personally like fermented fruit extracts for my K and bone extracts for P. but thats just how i came to the fight.
At what point do you add your bone extracts? How do you get them into your soil? How much do you add in?
 

iHearAll

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At what point do you add your bone extracts? How do you get them into your soil? How much do you add in?
bone extracts are found by mixing charred then crushed bones with vinegar. so if you have ribs one night. save the bones in the freezer until you have a kilo of bones.iv used the grill to char and the oven on broil to char, its all the same pretty much but the oven takes longer.

for sake of extraction you can use 1 liter of the cheapest vinegar you can find and 1 kilo of charred then crushed bones. pour the vinegar over top and cover with a paper towel and rubber band. alot of the vinegar will evaporate so you can top it off with more viinegar periodically throughout the course of the week. just pour enough vinegar to cover the bones, nothing really exact here. after a week or two of extraction, filter out the bones using a strainer or coffee filter. if you store it in the fridge after extract the calcium phosphate will stay suspended in the vinegar best. phosphates have a tendency to precipitate as temperature increases. on my "from scratch only" part of my signature i show the same thing. it should be on the most recent page. (if you find this in a month it will be buried in more DIY nonsense)
 

iHearAll

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At what point do you add your bone extracts? How do you get them into your soil? How much do you add in?
also you can add steamed bone meal into the soil when you mix it. it becomes available to the plant more slowly. so if you mix it in veg, you probably wont see it show up until flower. you can top dress and mix with a hand held fork thingy....(i completely forgot what these things are called) trowel? garden trowel?? is that a thing?
 

harris hawk

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I used to use raw sweet and if your making hash we noticed a slightly more intense terpene profile when using it at the warehouse. Not enough to buy it tho. No sweeteners are needed find good genetics and you'll see that genetics and environment are the 2 most important parts of growing bomb weed

Edit: company I worked for does terpene tests regularly to try and improve the hash. Different light schedules in flower change terpene profile as well
"different light schedules in flower" - meaning ? (different cycles within a day ?)
 

Afgan King

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"different light schedules in flower" - meaning ? (different cycles within a day ?)
Running 11hrs on 13 off I've heard 10-10:30on and the rest off as well. I know a lot of hash makers and they'll swear by it for making their full melt or live resin. It makes the plant express itself different. @RM3 has experience with light schedule effecting the type of high you get as well from different light cycles during flower. It's crazy man but these plants can express themselves in so many different ways just depending on environment. (Diff lights, temps, humidity, lights schedules all effect how a plant expresses itself as well as uva/uvb lighting)

Edit: the list of environmental variables is massive lol
 

RM3

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Running 11hrs on 13 off I've heard 10-10:30on and the rest off as well. I know a lot of hash makers and they'll swear by it for making their full melt or live resin. It makes the plant express itself different. @RM3 has experience with light schedule effecting the type of high you get as well from different light cycles during flower. It's crazy man but these plants can express themselves in so many different ways just depending on environment. (Diff lights, temps, humidity, lights schedules all effect how a plant expresses itself as well as uva/uvb lighting)

Edit: the list of environmental variables is massive lol
Yeppers genetic expression is the most fun thing about growin
 

Afgan King

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Yeppers genetic expression is the most fun thing about growin
Pretty sure that gg4 we thought was an s1 is the real thing. It just looked way different under gavita lighting and my partner runs at 69° lights on 59° lights off cuz I'm growing it now and it's the glue I know and love. Gavitas give off UV as well look at the waxing of the leaves @RM3 last pic is from my grow right now. 3606.jpeg 3203.jpeg 3221.jpeg IMG_20160905_211410157.jpg
 

RM3

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Pretty sure that gg4 we thought was an s1 is the real thing. It just looked way different under gavita lighting and my partner runs at 69° lights on 59° lights off cuz I'm growing it now and it's the glue I know and love. Gavitas give off UV as well look at the waxing of the leaves @RM3 last pic is from my grow right now. View attachment 3775263 View attachment 3775265 View attachment 3775266 View attachment 3775267
Nice, is Golden Goat or Gorilla Glue ?

Have access to both real cuts if it's not
 

Bbcchance

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Do you run the uvb for a full 12 hrs or on a separate timer?

Edit: nvm as you stated it was from the gravita
 

Wilderb

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I used to use raw sweet and if your making hash we noticed a slightly more intense terpene profile when using it at the warehouse. Not enough to buy it tho. No sweeteners are needed find good genetics and you'll see that genetics and environment are the 2 most important parts of growing bomb weed

Edit: company I worked for does terpene tests regularly to try and improve the hash. Different light schedules in flower change terpene profile as well
Light schedule changes effects terpenes? Tell us more. I'm interested.

Edit: I see you already explained in a post that I swear wasn't there when I started typing the first.
LOL
 
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Afgan King

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Light schedule changes effects terpenes? Tell us more. I'm interested.
It's all about getting your plant to express itself differently. Lower temperatures and different light schedules effect each plant differently but I've heard from numerous hash makers people who do it for big name companies talk about how they run 10/14 or 11/13 light schedules. Even heard one say in last two weeks drop it 9/15 and they swear by it and I've tried their personal hash from home grows and its insane. It doesn't help yield for bud and i can't remember if it helped with yeild on hash but I do remember them all swearing by different light schedules than 12/12 to get more intense terps. Again it's purely for different expressions of terpenes nothing else as far as I understood lol they are just those like high class snobby hash makers that know they make some insane shit but as far as I could tell the best shit ive ever smoked for hash was some if each of their personal home grown full melt. Each drastically different on flavors they like but all agreed the different light schedules intensify and change terpene content
 

harris hawk

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Running 11hrs on 13 off I've heard 10-10:30on and the rest off as well. I know a lot of hash makers and they'll swear by it for making their full melt or live resin. It makes the plant express itself different. @RM3 has experience with light schedule effecting the type of high you get as well from different light cycles during flower. It's crazy man but these plants can express themselves in so many different ways just depending on environment. (Diff lights, temps, humidity, lights schedules all effect how a plant expresses itself as well as uva/uvb lighting)

Edit: the list of environmental variables is massive lol
Thanks - know of one that you change every week 1-8) and the day-ly cycle includes 2 light times and dark times and each week is a different on-off times. So understand what you are saying. This one schedule is in "Grozine Magazine"
 
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