Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

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FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Bullshit, you live in an alternate reality and someone has been shitting in your ear so much it's coming out your mouth. Your post indicates you have a tenuous grasp on reality at best. Censored my my ass, and there is very good quality evidence that masks work, credible studies, science is like here, believe bullshit or have fuzzy thinking and you will get stepped on, like right now.

So we are getting right down to now civil warrior, you don't like vaccines or masks and you think covid is fake news. The world is a dark place controlled by mysterious figures who lurk in the shadows, only Trump tells the truth for you. Ya better get yer head out of yer own asshole son and stop living in fear and being driven around by it and not much else.
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A lot of hate in your heart. Let it out.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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FresnoFarmer said:
January 26, 2021
Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

At a Glance
  • The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.
  • The results provide hope that people receiving SARS-CoV-2 vaccines will develop similar lasting immune memories after vaccination.
Novel Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2
Colorized scanning electron micrograph of a cell, isolated from a patient sample, that is heavily infected with SARS-CoV-2 virus particles (red). NIAID Integrated Research Facility, Fort Detrick, Maryland

After people recover from infection with a virus, the immune system retains a memory of it. Immune cells and proteins that circulate in the body can recognize and kill the pathogen if it’s encountered again, protecting against disease and reducing illness severity.
This long-term immune protection involves several components. Antibodies—proteins that circulate in the blood—recognize foreign substances like viruses and neutralize them. Different types of T cells help recognize and kill pathogens. B cells make new antibodies when the body needs them.
All of these immune-system components have been found in people who recover from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But the details of this immune response and how long it lasts after infection have been unclear. Scattered reports of reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 have raised concerns that the immune response to the virus might not be durable.
To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette, and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from almost 200 people who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and recovered.
Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.
The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.
The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.
Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.
Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.
As with antibodies, the numbers of different immune cell types varied substantially between individuals. Neither gender nor differences in disease severity could account for this variability. However, 95% of the people had at least 3 out of 5 immune-system components that could recognize SARS-CoV-2 up to 8 months after infection.
“Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last,” Weiskopf says. “We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses.”
—by Sharon Reynolds

www.nih.gov

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.
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Then you should seek to get infected as alternative to vaccination, it's shouldn't be too difficult to acquire natural immunity. Covid gives you immunity and with vaccination it is even better, but people who had the original strain are getting sick with the new variants too. Natural infection engages more of the immune response and so will future editions of the vaccines, for now vaccination can keep people from being hospitalized and toe tagged.
 
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U79

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captainmorgan said:
Well my friends daughter and grandchildren with covid had another set back, the kids seem to be recovering but the daughter had a crisis and had her leg amputated below the knee. She's diabetic and had a infection in her foot and went to the hospital to have it looked at, that's where she got covid. Don't know if there is any connection but it does seem to be more than a coincidence but I think covid was probably a contributing factor. Some people get covid toes which is more than likely blood clot related, with diabetes already causing poor circulation and healing, covid blood clots may have led to the infection getting much worse and ending in amputation.
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Here is the contributing factor: an unhealthy lifestyle involving the consumption of hazarous amounts of sugar. It is all well known that diabetics end up having to amputate limbs. It is all because of their poor lifestyle choices.
 
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mooray

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FresnoFarmer said:
An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
1. Studies on the effectiveness of face masks
So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control.
  1. A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
  2. A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
  3. A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
  4. A February 2021 review by the European CDCfound no significant evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
  5. A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
  6. A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
  7. An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
  8. An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
  9. A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
  10. An August 2020 review by a German professorin virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. (Source)
Development of cases after mask mandates
In many states, coronavirus infections strongly increased after mask mandates had been introduced. The following charts show the typical examples of Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Spain, the UK, California and Hawaii. Furthermore, a direct comparison between US states with and without mask mandates indicates that mask mandates have made no difference.

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
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Just thinking logically, if spit particles carry the virus, then putting anything over your mouth is going to help reduce likelihood of transmitting.

The last one is pretty funny, "masks don't do anything, but using them wrong will infect you".
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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mooray said:
Just thinking logically, if spit particles carry the virus, then putting anything over your mouth is going to help reduce likelihood of transmitting.

The last one is pretty funny, "masks don't do anything, but using them wrong will infect you".
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Trust the science.
 
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TacoMac

TacoMac

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captainmorgan said:
Well my friends daughter and grandchildren with covid had another set back, the kids seem to be recovering but the daughter had a crisis and had her leg amputated below the knee. She's diabetic and had a infection in her foot and went to the hospital to have it looked at, that's where she got covid. Don't know if there is any connection but it does seem to be more than a coincidence but I think covid was probably a contributing factor. Some people get covid toes which is more than likely blood clot related, with diabetes already causing poor circulation and healing, covid blood clots may have led to the infection getting much worse and ending in amputation.
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Jesus, man. I'm so sorry.
 
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mooray

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FresnoFarmer said:
No. That’s not how that works. If you want to that is totally fine. You don’t get to tell me to get an experimental gene therapy or vaccine because it makes you feel safer. That’s what you’re not gonna do.
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We've been through this already. Gene therapy replaces unwanted/defective DNA. That's not at all what MRNA's do.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
FresnoFarmer said:
An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
1. Studies on the effectiveness of face masks
So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control.
  1. A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
  2. A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
  3. A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
  4. A February 2021 review by the European CDCfound no significant evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
  5. A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
  6. A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
  7. An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
  8. An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
  9. A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
  10. An August 2020 review by a German professorin virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. (Source)
Development of cases after mask mandates
In many states, coronavirus infections strongly increased after mask mandates had been introduced. The following charts show the typical examples of Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Spain, the UK, California and Hawaii. Furthermore, a direct comparison between US states with and without mask mandates indicates that mask mandates have made no difference.

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
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I thought all this stuff was suppose to be censored?
If masks don't work, how come medical workers who treat covid patients and wear masks, didn't usually catch covid? You mean to tell me all those doctors and nurses were wasting their time for the past year?

There are many scientific papers produced every year and some of them offer conflicting evidence. Someone could spend time like your source cherry picking papers in an effort to kill Americans, confident that some useful idiot would post it.

Your purpose here is malicious like the other fucking idiots and their socks. Your intention is to murder people with disinformation. You are not concerned with the health and safety of anybody, you have another agenda. Half of republicans are gonna fuck themselves anyway, I now believe we should help and try to infect them as quickly as possible, covid gives you immunity too and they will be vaccinated one way or another.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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FresnoFarmer said:
A lot of hate in your heart. Let it out.
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The hate is in your heart and it is jerking your chain to the point where you are trying to kill other people and probably yourself. My reaction to this kind of crap is normal, you are acting in an antisocial manner. Your "evidence" such that it is was pretty quick to hand, like it was prepared and is not particularly valid either. Perhaps someone will waste their time and check them, since anything a malicious bastard such as yourself posts is suspect. You are an enemy of humanity, so it's only natural that normal people want to step of your face.
 
Dr.Amber Trichome

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Chemo patients can’t get the vaccine. That truly sucks. They are in desperate need of herd immunity but selfish uncompassionate antivaxxers don’t give a fuck. What is it with them? Why do they have to be so difficult?
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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FresnoFarmer said:
An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
1. Studies on the effectiveness of face masks
So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control.
  1. A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
  2. A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
  3. A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
  4. A February 2021 review by the European CDCfound no significant evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
  5. A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
  6. A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
  7. An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
  8. An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
  9. A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
  10. An August 2020 review by a German professorin virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. (Source)
Development of cases after mask mandates
In many states, coronavirus infections strongly increased after mask mandates had been introduced. The following charts show the typical examples of Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Spain, the UK, California and Hawaii. Furthermore, a direct comparison between US states with and without mask mandates indicates that mask mandates have made no difference.

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
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So not real masks. Yes a bandana is not going to keep your viral load to yourself.
 
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