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[Dr Kynes]

They put together the transit and square to make a impressionistic pentagram. Thomas Paine even traced their roots to the egyptians. The whole Eye of Horus on the dollar bill was put there to fuck with us as a joke, huh? Those in power have kept an eye on their family lineage and have done so from the time before even the egyptians. The snake in the bible is from the Sumerian concept of the Abzu, a whirlpool. In Chinese it's a dragon. It symbolizes the connection between the ancient ruling people and the ones who lived outside. The Jews called these places Eden (Paradise) and Sheol, when a great calamity happened. It goes deep and these stories are all over the globe, meaning at one time these people were all one and migrated away.

the freemason's story is a pastiche of theosophic symbology from many different cultures, it is a FICTION designed to make the organizations seem deeper and more meaningful than it is.

it's a social club for gentlemen, nothing more, but it ONCE was a secret trade guild for builders, founded late in the dark ages.

now it's a frat for guys who aint in college no more.

even the pentacle you display above is hilarious.

"tetragramaton" is a GREEK word to describe (but not spell out) the hebrew letters that spell the secret name of god in quabalic theosophy (jewish ritual magic) that emblem alone dispels every claim they (and you) make about their mystical origins.

the rod of hermes is a symbol for learning and wisdom

theres hebrew letters

a scimitar (post rennaissance sword popular in aisa minor AFTER the arrival of the mongols)

a couple khopesh swords (bronze age weapons from the fertile crescent and north africa)

a couple crudely drawn alchemical symbols

and a cup which i can only assume is the Holy Grail of rennaissance myth.

you could get more wisdom from a Dan Brown novel.

you might just as well assume that emo kids in eyeliner and skinny jeans really do cast spells when they finger their pentacles and mutter in garbled latin.

the eye on the reverse of the great seal of the US is "the all seeing eye" of late renaissance psuedo-myth not the eye of Horus. it has more relation to Odin's eye than Horus'

if it featured the personification of "Liberty" "Victory" or "Columbia" would that have deep ancient meaning traced back to the first dynasties of egypt too?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

the freemason's story is a pastiche of theosophic symbology from many different cultures, it is a FICTION designed to make the organizations seem deeper and more meaningful than it is.

it's a social club for gentlemen, nothing more, but it ONCE was a secret trade guild for builders, founded late in the dark ages.

now it's a frat for guys who aint in college no more.

even the pentacle you display above is hilarious.

"tetragramaton" is a GREEK word to describe (but not spell out) the hebrew letters that spell the secret name of god in quabalic theosophy (jewish ritual magic) that emblem alone dispels every claim they (and you) make about their mystical origins.

the rod of hermes is a symbol for learning and wisdom

theres hebrew letters

a scimitar (post rennaissance sword popular in aisa minor AFTER the arrival of the mongols)

a couple khopesh swords (bronze age weapons from the fertile crescent and north africa)

a couple crudely drawn alchemical symbols

and a cup which i can only assume is the Holy Grail of rennaissance myth.

you could get more wisdom from a Dan Brown novel.

you might just as well assume that emo kids in eyeliner and skinny jeans really do cast spells when they finger their pentacles and mutter in garbled latin.

the eye on the reverse of the great seal of the US is "the all seeing eye" of late renaissance psuedo-myth not the eye of Horus. it has more relation to Odin's eye than Horus'

if it featured the personification of "Liberty" "Victory" or "Columbia" would that have deep ancient meaning traced back to the first dynasties of egypt too?

By posting a random picture of a Masonic like image makes what I say bullshit? First off, I only picked that image to show how the square and transit form a pentagram star shape when extended.

You're also wrong about the dollar bill being the eye of Odin. It's the eye of Horus (Wadjet). Benjamin Franklin was a Freemason and wanted it for the country's symbol.

Why you trying to bullshit the bullshit master? I've studied this for over 25 years. Reading everything I could about comparative religion, the occult, and obscure societies such as the Order of the Templars.

Since we've established the bold is garbage. Care to try again with your non-bolded claim? Ok, admittedly, the tetragramaton picture is a misunderstanding and we're both to blame. But where you got the idea the dollar bill is the eye of Odin, is beyond me. Especially considering the whole pyramid thing is Egyptian too. This is also interesting.

 

[Doer]

derp derp derp.

thats right, they STARTED as a trade guild for masons, and became a drinking society for well heeled gentlemen who needed a place to get away from their wives.

when the skills of the engineer (thats what stonemasons were) became a skill you learned at a university instead of from an apprenticeship, and printing presses turned knowledge into a freely traded commodity, the mason's guild became redundant. so they tirned into a social club.

i can see where this would be perplexing as fuck to you, but it aint to anybody else.

The Masons. Another club I was asked to Join. And it is set up like an Arcane Sect. It reminds me of a hobby. It reminds me of guys that fill their garage with train track and wear all the gear when they play Choo - Choo.

Why in the hell are people afraid of secret society. They are completely protected, under the 9th A, and we came here to have them.

If you knew what Masons really are, you would laugh your ass off.

But, they laugh at the ones that are still superstitious of Sorcery and secret knowledge.

Look at it this way. If there are these utlra-powerful sects, like Illuminati, Skull and Bones, and Freemasons, don't you think they would kill to protect the secret?

Yet, we are still alive. That's my proof.

OTH, if they do exist, why should I care? I don't want to be killed.

 

[ChesusRice]

During the Revolutionary war being in the Masons was something that could save your life. Many on the British and the American side were masons, and being one if captured could be your key to surviving

 

[ASMALLVOICE]

My Father was a 32nd degree mason for a very long time. I know all I will ever need to know about freemasonry and its purpose, none of which has a place in my life whatsoever.

I was fortunate enough to see him denounce this burden before he left this earth. You can paint a lion any color you want, make no mistake, the only change is on the outside.

Peace

Asmallvoice

 

[ASMALLVOICE]

Here is a small quote from "Scottish Rite"

"In freemasonry is concealed the mystery of creation, the answer to the problem of existence, and the path the student must tread in order to join those who are really the living powers behind the thrones of modern national and international affairs."

For the Bible Readers - One of many warnings of what is to come.

"Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils: speaking lies in hypocrisy: having their conscience seared with a hot iron"
1 Timothy 4:1-2

Peace

Asmallvoice

 

[tokeprep]

The Masons. Another club I was asked to Join. And it is set up like an Arcane Sect. It reminds me of a hobby. It reminds me of guys that fill their garage with train track and wear all the gear when they play Choo - Choo.

Every description of the modern Masons I've ever heard fits this sentiment perfectly. A bunch of bored men--certainly not masters of the universe--get together to socialize, excluding other people for the thrill of it. The lodge is just an older man's fraternity, perhaps with less drinking and sex.

Social clubs used to be meaningful because socializing was much harder. How did you meet people in the 1700s? Not so easy.

 

[echelon1k1]

My Father was a 32nd degree mason for a very long time. I know all I will ever need to know about freemasonry and its purpose, none of which has a place in my life whatsoever.

I was fortunate enough to see him denounce this burden before he left this earth. You can paint a lion any color you want, make no mistake, the only change is on the outside.

Peace

Asmallvoice

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ASMALLVOICE again.

 

[Dr Kynes]

By posting a random picture of a Masonic like image makes what I say bullshit? First off, I only picked that image to show how the square and transit form a pentagram star shape when extended.

You're also wrong about the dollar bill being the eye of Odin. It's the eye of Horus (Wadjet). Benjamin Franklin was a Freemason and wanted it for the country's symbol.

Why you trying to bullshit the bullshit master? I've studied this for over 25 years. Reading everything I could about comparative religion, the occult, and obscure societies such as the Order of the Templars.

Since we've established the bold is garbage. Care to try again with your non-bolded claim? Ok, admittedly, the tetragramaton picture is a misunderstanding and we're both to blame. But where you got the idea the dollar bill is the eye of Odin, is beyond me. Especially considering the whole pyramid thing is Egyptian too. This is also interesting.

i didnt post that crudely drawn theosophic mishmash, YOU did.

nearly all of the modern freemason's sort of occulty looking symbology is a similar jumble of bullshit, drawn from the victorian fascination with the occult and orientalism, creating a FAKE story which has no relevance to any real society or culture.

the "all seeing eye" is a similar victorian creation, drawn from a great many sources, and represents the watchful eye of an omnipresent god, which was in fact drawn not from Horus, but Odin. Horus is represented by his famous Eye, because he is also depicted as a falcon, who you may not be aware, have pretty good eyesight, but he was NOT all seeing, unlike Odin.
"I am Horus, the great Falcon upon the ramparts of the house of him of the hidden name. My flight has reached the horizon. I have passed by the gods of Nut. I have gone further than the gods of old. Even the most ancient bird could not equal my very first flight. I have removed my place beyond the powers of Set, the foe of my father Osiris. No other god could do what I have done. I have brought the ways of eternity to the twilight of the morning. I am unique in my flight. My wrath will be turned against the enemy of my father Osiris and I will put him beneath my feet in my name of 'Red Cloak'."
~ From an inscription on a sarcophagus, translated in "Myth and Symbol in Ancient Egypt" by R.T. Rundle Clark, p. 216

while odin is the omniscient father of the gods, who sees everything, was piecrced by his own spear and hung from the tree Yggdrasil for nine days (crucifixion norse style) and is the cheif god among the norse pantheon.
the all seeing nature of the "all seeing eye of providence" has much more in common with odin than horus, though both have extensive correlations with the jesus myth.




and your latest image is likewise foolish.

you can draw a pentacle or a star of david, or a square, or any other geometric shape inside a circle, yet the lines in the image dont even match up, the angles are flawed and the star of david is all out of shape.

the pyramids were the greatest work of man the enlightenment knew of, the largest free standing structures on earth, and the last of the Great Wonders of the Ancient World still visible at the time.

they were huge, complex, mathematically compelling, created from many small parts to create a singular whole, and stood the test of time. you cant conceive of how they might be symbolic to people trying to craft a new nation based on the enlightenment's views of individual rights?

thats what we call Cherry Picking. twisting the evidence to support a conclusion rather than letting the evidence lead you to a conclusion.

the words are LATIN, forming TWO DISTINCT MOTTOES

Annuit Coeptis : "favours our undertaking" hmmm how might this relate to the protestant beliefs of the founders of this nation in the late 1700's?
Novus Ordo Seculorum: "a new order for the world" which is exactly what a representative republic founded on the beliefs of the enlightenment was.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Doc,

If the god of the jews is the one true god, why did their god plagiarize his holy book based on stories from Sumerian myths?

 

[tobinates559]

the freemason's story is a pastiche of theosophic symbology from many different cultures, it is a FICTION designed to make the organizations seem deeper and more meaningful than it is.

it's a social club for gentlemen, nothing more, but it ONCE was a secret trade guild for builders, founded late in the dark ages.

now it's a frat for guys who aint in college no more.

even the pentacle you display above is hilarious.

"tetragramaton" is a GREEK word to describe (but not spell out) the hebrew letters that spell the secret name of god in quabalic theosophy (jewish ritual magic) that emblem alone dispels every claim they (and you) make about their mystical origins.

the rod of hermes is a symbol for learning and wisdom

theres hebrew letters

a scimitar (post rennaissance sword popular in aisa minor AFTER the arrival of the mongols)

a couple khopesh swords (bronze age weapons from the fertile crescent and north africa)

a couple crudely drawn alchemical symbols

and a cup which i can only assume is the Holy Grail of rennaissance myth.

you could get more wisdom from a Dan Brown novel.

you might just as well assume that emo kids in eyeliner and skinny jeans really do cast spells when they finger their pentacles and mutter in garbled latin.

the eye on the reverse of the great seal of the US is "the all seeing eye" of late renaissance psuedo-myth not the eye of Horus. it has more relation to Odin's eye than Horus'

if it featured the personification of "Liberty" "Victory" or "Columbia" would that have deep ancient meaning traced back to the first dynasties of egypt too?

could you be more stupid? they gave themselves a fake back story to make them seem MORE meaningful and evil?? common sense tells me NO

 

[Canna Sylvan]

could you be more stupid? they gave themselves a fake back story to make them seem MORE meaningful and evil?? common sense tells me NO

I like a lot of what the Doc has to say most of the time. But in this instance, he's trying a bit too hard.

The Freemasons are still doing a pretty good job of keeping their agenda secret. It's out in the open, yet no one believes them. That's the best way to keep a secret.

 

[tobinates559]

The Masons. Another club I was asked to Join. And it is set up like an Arcane Sect. It reminds me of a hobby. It reminds me of guys that fill their garage with train track and wear all the gear when they play Choo - Choo.

Why in the hell are people afraid of secret society. They are completely protected, under the 9th A, and we came here to have them.

If you knew what Masons really are, you would laugh your ass off.

But, they laugh at the ones that are still superstitious of Sorcery and secret knowledge.

Look at it this way. If there are these utlra-powerful sects, like Illuminati, Skull and Bones, and Freemasons, don't you think they would kill to protect the secret?

Yet, we are still alive. That's my proof.

OTH, if they do exist, why should I care? I don't want to be killed.

if you knew anything about masons you would know that low level masons know nothing of the true workings of their cult...they havent killed us yet? thats your proof!! piss poor proof my friend!! and there is actually quite a famous story of a ex-mason being killed by masons for exposing secrets, check it out!

what really convinced me was while reading my local masonic lodges schedule of events i saw something for a CEREMONY on HALLOWEEN (i believe it was NOV 2nd actually, the real halloween) at my local CEMETERY where there just so happens to be a HUGE maybe 15-20 ft tall PYRAMID!!! its called the DORN pyramid and it adorned with masonic symbols...

the truth is truly stranger than fiction

 

[Canna Sylvan]

if you knew anything about masons you would know that low level masons know nothing of the true workings of their cult...they havent killed us yet? thats your proof!! piss poor proof my friend!! and there is actually quite a famous story of a ex-mason being killed by masons for exposing secrets, check it out!

what really convinced me was while reading my local masonic lodges schedule of events i saw something for a CEREMONY on HALLOWEEN (i believe it was NOV 2nd actually, the real halloween) at my local CEMETERY where there just so happens to be a HUGE maybe 15-20 ft tall PYRAMID!!! its called the DORN pyramid and it adorned with masonic symbols...

the truth is truly stranger than fiction

You only get to know anything once you reach the 33rd degree. At that point we have no idea what they do. There have been a few who have told, but they've ended up dead. Kubrick was killed 666 days before January 1, 2001 for making fun of their rituals.

 

[tobinates559]

During the Revolutionary war being in the Masons was something that could save your life. Many on the British and the American side were masons, and being one if captured could be your key to surviving

ahhhh very true but the masons of today are VERY different than the masons of the revolutionary war!

 

[tobinates559]

tobinates is an anagram for obstinate.

CLEVER UNCLE BUCK that one made me laugh!!

but me obstinate? no, all the morons in the world that think the Government is always going to take care and do right for its people, DESPITE the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they are obstinate and there is ALOT of them here on RUI cough* cough* ^^^^(UB)...this is pretty funny and ironic i mean unclebuck called me obstinate guys

 

[echelon1k1]

You only get to know anything once you reach the 33rd degree. At that point we have no idea what they do. There have been a few who have told, but they've ended up dead. Kubrick was killed 666 days before January 1, 2001 for making fun of their rituals.

did they find him hanging under London's Blackfriars Bridge?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

did they find him hanging under London's Blackfriars Bridge?

For being such a friendly social club, the fact it took 30 years to acquit his murders is quite a testament to their peaceful nature. That and they didn't want to give up $10 million.

 

[heckler73]

The secret dance of Blue stone feet...
oogedee boogedee

 

[echelon1k1]

For being such a friendly social club, the fact it took 30 years to acquit his murders is quite a testament to their peaceful nature. That and they didn't want to give up $10 million.

Agreed. They'll never find out who gave the order - it's fair to agree the mafia was involved but I think that was the tip of the iceberg...