Obama says Weed is no more harmful than Alchohol

[BigNBushy]

when it said it's all talk, i meant el presidente, not uncle buck from riu ffs..
the law is still on the books, growing or possession of cannabis is very illegal to do.. just because the president who is in office now is ok with this, it does't make it any less illegal does it?? am i missing something here, as i'd love to know..

so, for the fifty millionth time, what happens when the next person who happens to get elected is no longer cool w ith marijuana starts to go after smokers and people who possess cannabis?? christ, why is that such a difficult question to answer?? why can't obama do real change, you know, like the aca, and enact a law saying cannabis has been rescheduled, that way, hey, here's a fucking thought, no matter who gets elected, there will no longer be a law to up hold that says you have to arrest cannabis users?

Because to reschedule it, it would have to go through both houses of congress. I doubt the Republican held House of Reps. would be willing to pass such a bill.

 

[BigNBushy]

Or how about why don't you just admit Obama has done more to end prohibition than any president before him?

President Obama has done more to undermine the faith and credibility of US law than any president before him.

 

[beenthere]

did you even listen to what obama said?

he literally said he was not for giving 'carte blanche' to a cannabis industry. he said he would direct his justice department to make it a lower priority.

as we've seen, the only busts you can show us were folks, often felons, growing a shit ton and trying to use state MMJ laws as cover.

you don't really care for facts, do you?

I don't care for idiots trying to weasel their way through arguments.

And this is the problem with you koolaid drinking lops, you have to defend this lying POS of a president by using technicalities.
There's always some kind of caveat you Obama ass sucking lefties use to protect him.
It's pretty cut and dry to me, either he stops using the Justice Department to accompany, direct or assist with state authorities in MMJ raids or he's a phony ass liar.

 

[ChesusRice]

President Obama has done more to undermine the faith and credibility of US law than any president before him.

 

[ChesusRice]

President Obama has done more to undermine the faith and credibility of US law than any president before him.

President	Term	Total Orders[SUP]1[/SUP]	EO Number Range
George Washington	Total	8	unnumbered
John Adams	Total	1	unnumbered
Thomas Jefferson	Total	4	unnumbered
James Madison	Total	1	unnumbered
James Monroe	Total	1	unnumbered
John Quincy Adams	Total	3	unnumbered
Andrew Jackson	Total	12	unnumbered
Martin van Buren	Total	10	unnumbered
William Henry Harrison	Total	0	unnumbered
John Tyler	Total	17	unnumbered
James K. Polk	Total	18	unnumbered
Zachary Taylor	Total	5	unnumbered
Millard Fillmore	Total	12	unnumbered
Franklin Pierce	Total	35	unnumbered
James Buchanan	Total	16	unnumbered
Abraham Lincoln	Total	48	unnumbered
Andrew Johnson	Total	79	unnumbered
Ulysses S. Grant	Total	217	unnumbered
Rutherford B. Hayes	Total	92	unnumbered
James Garfield	Total	6	unnumbered
Chester Arthur	Total	96	unnumbered
Grover Cleveland - I	Total	113	unnumbered
Benjamin Harrison	Total	143	unnumbered
Grover Cleveland - II	Total	140	unnumbered
William McKinley	Total	185	unnumbered
Theodore Roosevelt	Total	1,081
William Howard Taft	Total	724
Woodrow Wilson	Total	1,803
Warren G. Harding	Total	522
Calvin Coolidge	Total	1,203
Herbert Hoover	Total	968	5075 - 6070
Franklin D. Roosevelt	Total	3,522	6071 - 9537
Harry S. Truman	Total	907	9538 - 10431
	I	504	9538 - 10029
	II	403	10030 - 10431
Dwight D. Eisenhower	Total	484	10432 - 10913
	I	266	10432 - 10695-A
	II	218	10696 - 10913
John F. Kennedy	Total	214	10914 - 11127
Lyndon B. Johnson	Total	325	11128 - 11451
Richard Nixon	Total	346	11452 - 11797
	I	247	11452 - 11698
	II	99	11699 - 11797
Gerald R. Ford	Total	169	11798 - 11966
Jimmy Carter	Total	320	11967 - 12286
Ronald Reagan	Total	381	12287 - 12667
	I	213	12287 - 12499
	II	168	12500 - 12667
George Bush	Total	166	12668 - 12833
William J. Clinton	Total	364	12834 - 13197
	I	200	12834 - 13033
	II	164	13034 - 13197
George W. Bush	Total	291	13198 - 13488
	I	173	13198 - 13370
	II	118	13371 - 13488
Barack Obama	Total	168	13489 - 13656...
	I	147	13489 - 13635
	II	21	13636 - 13656...

 

[beenthere]

is this one of your "peer reviewed" major studies? LOL

 

[ChesusRice]

WTF
Ronnie Reagan issued 381?

 

[ChesusRice]

is this one of your "peer reviewed" major studies? LOL

Yeah it came from some left wing rag called "Forbes"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsalsman/2013/01/28/when-it-comes-to-abuse-of-presidential-power-obama-is-a-mere-piker/

 

[londonfog]

President Obama actually says something that can help and lead to the legalization of pot and we still have people complaining about it ( on a pot forum no less ). very telling

 

[beenthere]

President Obama actually says something that can help and lead to the legalization of pot and we still have people complaining about it ( on a pot forum no less ). very telling

Damn, I see partisans on a cannabis forum putting politics over principle, very telling, indeed.

 

[UncleBuck]

why can't obama do real change, you know, like the aca, and enact a law saying cannabis has been rescheduled, that way, hey, here's a fucking thought, no matter who gets elected, there will no longer be a law to up hold that says you have to arrest cannabis users?

for the fifty millionth time, what happens when the republican president gets into office and repeals that law?

i can play this stupid game too.

 

[UncleBuck]

so, until cannabis is rescheduled and people are stopped being told that cannabis is just as bad for you as herion and cocaine, i fail to see a victory, sorry to be debbie downer.. either, legalize, or get off the pot, pun intended of course..

what happens when jeb bush gets into office and repeals those laws and reinstates the cannabis prohibition?

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't care for idiots trying to weasel their way through arguments.

then you must really fucking hate yourself.

And this is the problem with you koolaid drinking lops, you have to defend this lying POS of a president by using technicalities.

what he actually said during his campaign is not a technicality though.

It's pretty cut and dry to me, either he stops using the Justice Department to accompany, direct or assist with state authorities in MMJ raids or he's a phony ass liar.

he never said he was gonna do that though, idiot.

he said he was gonna direct his justice department to make it lower priority, and he said he wasn't gonna prosecute sick patients and those compliant with state law. both upheld.

he also said he didn't want to give carte blanche to a cannabis industry. he did break that one though.

 

[cannabineer]

instead of ignoring me, why don't you try and answer the fucking question cheesus??

what in gods name has changed because one president doesn't arrest people over pot?? what the fuck is going to happen when the next president is going to go after pot smokers??
how the hell is that change?? nothing has changed, my blind friend. oh, i sure can't wait for 2016, see we can all look back on the golden years of cannabis in the us of a..
why the hell won't you answer the fucking question instead of ignoring it??

Welcome to Paulitics, racerboy.

 

[cannabineer]

i can do much more than talk, i can literally go out and buy some cannabis legally now.

it's been two weeks. have some patience, grasshopper. this is a great wedge issue and obama is not gonna let one of those go to waste.

I cannot, and I live in a "legal state".

 

[cannabineer]

Because to reschedule it, it would have to go through both houses of congress. I doubt the Republican held House of Reps. would be willing to pass such a bill.

No. The scheduling wasn't done via the Legislative. The rescheduling follows the same process: essentially fiat lex by the DEA, an Executive letter agency.

 

[UncleBuck]

I cannot, and I live in a "legal state".

no, you still live in one of the other 48.

and technically i'd have to be a resident to buy some.

but the point remains.

 

[beenthere]

he said he was gonna direct his justice department to make it lower priority, and he said he wasn't gonna prosecute sick patients and those compliant with state law. both upheld.

he also said he didn't want to give carte blanche to a cannabis industry. he did break that one though.

He said he wouldn't make it a high priority, but that was only one of many of his misleading statements.
But the fact remains. you and the rest of the Obama ass suckers must resort to technicalities in order to defend him.
Politics before principle.

 

[UncleBuck]

He said he wouldn't make it a high priority, but that was only one of many of his misleading statements.
But the fact remains. you and the rest of the Obama ass suckers must resort to technicalities in order to defend him.
Politics before principle.

what technicalities? do you mean the words he actually said, rather than the words you falsely imagine he said in that inventive noggin of yours?

 

[cannabineer]

no, you still live in one of the other 48.

and technically i'd have to be a resident to buy some.

but the point remains.

I live in one of the Illegal 50. I align with racerboy on this issue: absence of Federal legal permission means cold breeze on my hind-cheeks. I am not arguing that the state's legal climate is without consequence, but i am saying it's not enough.

While a President could override a law or agitate for its repeal, I would think this to be MUCH more politically pricy than to simply realign an enforcement position on an extant law. It's absolute Swiss chocolate to a career politician 9elected or appointed) to be able to point and say "hey; I didn't write that law".