Name the Place You Can Pay NO Taxes And Receive A Refund..

Bombur

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Receiving money back you never paid in the first place (because your year end net tax liability was $0) is you taking money directly from someone else's pocket.

Work yourself through school and have some self respect, even this Commie shithole I live in won't give you credits for tax you never paid in the first place.
I understand your point, I really do. I AM working my way through school, and it's tough. Our legislators, who were elected by the people, decided it was worth enacting this credit to invest in college students. Once I'm done with school I'll be in a position to pay taxes for the rest of my life, which will partly fund the same programs that are currently helping me. I will pay back the help that my fellow citizens have given me through their tax dollars, and then some.
 

twostrokenut

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If your claim is that the actions of the IRS constitute "seizures on land," the construction of the Judiciary Act of 1789 necessarily forces you to conclude that the "saving to suitors" clause is irrelevant to such seizures because it is entirely separate, contained in a separate grant of jurisdiction.

Um No. Federal Reserve notes are what changes the jurisdiction.



You have the right to redeem Federal Reserve Notes for "lawful money."
Federal Reserve Notes are lawful money and legal tender.

Choose to remain in conflict, it matters not. Just remember the Bankers Holiday is still in the deck.

The fact that the "saving to suitors" clause relates solely to the grant of admiralty jurisdiction should be the fatal flaw in the crackpot case that wakes you up, but you even defend that despite the incontrovertible evidence against the claim.
How is David Merrill? I heard he, in good faith, won every dime he ever paid to the IRS since the beginning with one simple statement. "if I had known I could redeem fed notes I would have done so since my first paycheck ever".

Of course this is in addition to successfully proving the accounting that underlies all the court cases you cite as proof....which you failed to realize the relevance of.
 

tokeprep

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in new jersey public schools, 92+ is an A, 84-91 is a B, 75-83 is a C, and 65-74 is a D.

at least that's what it was like when i was there.
This image makes the point: http://horizonsuniversity.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/grades.gif. "Curving" in college classes these days means everyone moves up 10-15 points on the scale. Cs used to be the most common grades because they were "average"; now they're quite uncommon. An A is the new B, and a B is the new C.
 

schuylaar

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This image makes the point: http://horizonsuniversity.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/grades.gif. "Curving" in college classes these days means everyone moves up 10-15 points on the scale. Cs used to be the most common grades because they were "average"; now they're quite uncommon. An A is the new B, and a B is the new C.
um, yeah..sorry no "curve" is possible which is why half the class flunked out last semester and must repeat before they can even move on other than gen ed classes.

73 is the new "F", in my world.
 

tokeprep

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Um No. Federal Reserve notes are what changes the jurisdiction.
They change the jurisdiction...?

Choose to remain in conflict, it matters not. Just remember the Bankers Holiday is still in the deck.
Choose to remain ignorant. Just remember, it's not bliss.

How is David Merrill? I heard he, in good faith, won every dime he ever paid to the IRS since the beginning with one simple statement. "if I had known I could redeem fed notes I would have done so since my first paycheck ever".
I never heard that. I did hear he makes money selling this bullshit to ignorant people who are gullible enough to believe it.

Of course this is in addition to successfully proving the accounting that underlies all the court cases you cite as proof....which you failed to realize the relevance of.
You proved nothing. You declared that this mystical accounting was the basis of those cases even though there was no evidence whatsoever. You have faith, not evidence. If such accounting existed, one of those many courts would have mentioned it in the decisions. You declared it was implicit, which is ludicrous. If it were so essential to the case--if it made the difference--it could not possibly have been implicit. You demonstrated that you don't understand how courts work, reason, or write, which should be expected given that you have absolutely no experience with them.
 

tokeprep

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um, yeah..sorry no "curve" is possible which is why half the class flunked out last semester and must repeat before they can even move on other than gen ed classes.

73 is the new "F", in my world.
Half the class flunked? What are you talking about, community college?
 

UncleBuck

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This image makes the point: http://horizonsuniversity.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/grades.gif. "Curving" in college classes these days means everyone moves up 10-15 points on the scale. Cs used to be the most common grades because they were "average"; now they're quite uncommon. An A is the new B, and a B is the new C.
i'm not interested in stats from your time at devryU. i know from my wife's progress through grad school that C's do not get degrees, they send you home without one.
 

tokeprep

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i'm not interested in stats from your time at devryU. i know from my wife's progress through grad school that C's do not get degrees, they send you home without one.
You crack me up, Buck. Considering that schools with the best reputations are some of the worst grade inflation offenders--not even speaking of for-profit colleges--that's hilarious. It's almost impossible to get a C in many graduate programs these days, regardless of the quality of your work. So you're right, Cs don't get degrees...but your odds of seeing one are miniscule.
 

twostrokenut

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I never heard that. I did hear he makes money selling this bullshit to ignorant people who are gullible enough to believe it.
People hear what they want, that will never change.
The information is free of charge. Unlike access to a lot of what the "law society" enjoys.



You proved nothing. You declared that this mystical accounting was the basis of those cases even though there was no evidence whatsoever. You have faith, not evidence.
Not mine of course.....but a fine example of "mystical accounting"::bigjoint:

Face it, the jig is up.



 

tokeprep

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People hear what they want, that will never change.
The information is free of charge. Unlike access to a lot of what the "law society" enjoys.
Almost everything we dealt with was freely available.

Not mine of course.....but a fine example of "mystical accounting"::bigjoint:

Face it, the jig is up.
What is it you think this proves? There's zero context.
 

twostrokenut

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Seems to me, someone that can hold a min 3.8 GPA should be able to go to college for free. Lots of scholarships out there

I will be 100% honest when I tell you I used a Pell grant my first semester. Otherwise, I was well paid to attend University. Those programs no longer exist though.
Still some music scholarships...my local university gave them to 4.0 band/ensemble/string and I think chorus students.
 

twostrokenut

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You crack me up, Buck. Considering that schools with the best reputations are some of the worst grade inflation offenders--not even speaking of for-profit colleges--that's hilarious. It's almost impossible to get a C in many graduate programs these days, regardless of the quality of your work. So you're right, Cs don't get degrees...but your odds of seeing one are miniscule.
I harass buck a lot.....but you really failed to follow the convo here.
He is not pursuing a degree to my knowledge....he was speaking of his wife.

Do you prep your tokes with raw aluminium?
 
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