Burglar's relative says: "He could have used a warning shot first..."

[Dr Kynes]

According to http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states and http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/canada.

Canada has a rate of 0.5 HOMICIDES VIA GUN per 100,000 people. The USA has a rate of 3.6 HOMICIDES VIA GUN per 100,000. What's that? More than 7 times as many murders with guns per capita?? But your gun laws are A-OK!

Facts yo.

For total firearms related deaths including suicides etc. Canada has a rate of 2.38 deaths per 100,000 people, USA has a rate of 10.3 people killed per 100,000.

MORE FACTS YO.

so my math is wrong?

i did show my work.

"gun policy dot org" does NOT show their work.

who you gonna believe?

never trust a gun grabber's numbers. they will lie through their teeth and feel good about it, after all, they are "thinking of the children!"

check my numbers if you care to.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Outside the inner cities, the violent crime rate in the US is extremely low. Much lower than Western Europe. Much, much lower than Eastern Europe. Lower than Canada.

My advice to Canadians is to avoid the inner cities in the US if you come to visit for a hip replacement or other specialized medical care.

If you compare rural areas in the USA vs rural areas in Canada, I bet Canada still has significantly lower gun murder rates.

What you've done is basically say if you forget about most of the population, problems go away. That is not reality. Cities exist in the USA, and Canada and the rates of those cities have to be taken into account. Nice attempt at special pleading though.

 

[desert dude]

According to http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states and http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/canada.

Canada has a rate of 0.5 HOMICIDES VIA GUN per 100,000 people. The USA has a rate of 3.6 HOMICIDES VIA GUN per 100,000. What's that? More than 7 times as many murders with guns per capita?? But your gun laws are A-OK!

Facts yo.

For total firearms related deaths including suicides etc. Canada has a rate of 2.38 deaths per 100,000 people, USA has a rate of 10.3 people killed per 100,000.

MORE FACTS YO.

Yes, our gun laws are indeed "A-OK"! The US Constitution is the grandest statement of personal liberty in the written history of man.

 

[twostrokenut]

Pfff... machetes.

I have a 12ga.

Keep mine loaded buckshot,slug,buckshot,slug.

Nice holepunch, that one.

 

[Beefbisquit]

so my math is wrong?

i did show my work.

"gun policy dot org" does NOT show their work.

who you gonna believe?

never trust a gun grabber's numbers. they will lie through their teeth and feel good about it, after all, they are "thinking of the children!"

check my numbers if you care to.

I'm going to believe an organization full of professionals who make it their job to get the facts correct, not some random dude on the internet.

 

[desert dude]

If you compare rural areas in the USA vs rural areas in Canada, I bet Canada still has significantly lower gun murder rates.

What you've done is basically say if you forget about most of the population, problems go away. That is not reality. Cities exist in the USA, and Canada and the rates of those cities have to be taken into account. Nice attempt at special pleading though.

That is exactly what this guy did. Read it and weep.

http://pjmedia.com/blog/im-glad-that...-where-i-live/

 

[Beefbisquit]

Yes, our gun laws are indeed "A-OK"! The US Constitution is the grandest statement of personal liberty in the written history of man.

That's why the USA is a statistical anomaly in gun murders, to be compared with the likes of Venezuela, El Salvador, and of course, my favorite, Mexico. Nice company you keep.

 

[Beefbisquit]

That is exactly what this guy did. Read it and weep.

http://pjmedia.com/blog/im-glad-that...-where-i-live/

Zero citations. Nice, scholarly article.

 

[twostrokenut]

i have friends down in louisiana who have woken up to their elderly neighbor making breakfast in their kitchen.

if joe horn were my neighbor, i might have been shot dead in my driveway the one time i locked myself out.

not everything is so cut and dry.

Your fear of the speculated unknown is very cut and dry.

 

[desert dude]

That's why the USA is a statistical anomaly in gun murders, to be compared with the likes of Venezuela, El Salvador, and of course, my favorite, Mexico. Nice company you keep.

What kind of racist are you, bisquick? Why are you hating on all the poor brown people? LOL

 

[kpmarine]

"gun violence" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

the US ranks LOW in the per capita firearms murder rate internationally.

check out west africa, south america and the middle east (war zones omitted of course) and youll see the RATE (#/Population) in the US is shockingly low, despite having a far higher RATE of gun ownership than the rest of the world.

put 100 americans in a room, and hand them all a gun, and 97 of those americans will walk out alive at the end of the day, and one guy will have a bullet in his shoulder.
put 100 canadians in a room, and give them each a gun, and 97 of those canadians will walk out alive, and one guy will have a bullet in his ass.

put 100 south africans or columbians in a room and give them each a gun, and youll have a room full of corpses.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_fir_hom_rat_per_100_pop-rate-per-100-000-pop

i think we can all agree, GUNS dont kill people, South Africans and Columbians with guns kill people.

34,880,000/100,000=348.8 144/348.8=0.412

Canada's gun homicides are somewhere in the less than one per 100,000 range.

 

[desert dude]

I'm going to believe an organization full of professionals who make it their job to get the facts correct, not some random dude on the internet.

GUnpolicy.org isn't exactly a neutral source of data.

 

[NoDrama]

According to http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states and http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/canada.

Canada has a rate of 0.5 HOMICIDES VIA GUN per 100,000 people. The USA has a rate of 3.6 HOMICIDES VIA GUN per 100,000. What's that? More than 7 times as many murders with guns per capita?? But your gun laws are A-OK!

Facts yo.

For total firearms related deaths including suicides etc. Canada has a rate of 2.38 deaths per 100,000 people, USA has a rate of 10.3 people killed per 100,000.

MORE FACTS YO.

What do guns have to do with the castle doctrine? Would you be as adamant if the guy had used a large axe to kill the intruder with? Would that get the seal of approval?
Guns aren't the weapon, they are the tool. The mind is the weapon.

Why do people use guns instead of axes?

 

[twostrokenut]

Carjacker... I have no problem at all shooting a car jacker.

Unless you're trying to shoot through the door with anything less than a 44.

 

[Dr Kynes]

I'm going to believe an organization full of professionals who make it their job to get the facts correct, not some random dude on the internet.

you can get the total number of firearms homicides yourself (144 in canada, 9369 in the US)

you can get the population numbers from the US census (313.8 million) and the canadian census (34.88 million) and do the math yourself.

"gun policy dot org" is not "an organization full of professionals who make it their job to get the facts correct" they are TOUTS, slinging an agenda.

you might as well ask Barry Seotoro how Obamacare is doing, and he will be as honest with his answer as "gun policy dot org" is about theirs.

 

[kpmarine]

you can get the total number of firearms homicides yourself (144 in canada, 9369 in the US)

you can get the population numbers from the US census (313.8 million) and the canadian census (34.88 million) and do the math yourself.

"gun policy dot org" is not "an organization full of professionals who make it their job to get the facts correct" they are TOUTS, slinging an agenda.

you might as well ask Barry Seotoro how Obamacare is doing, and he will be as honest with his answer as "gun policy dot org" is about theirs.

I did the math, it agrees with Beef. Check it out.

 

[kpmarine]

Unless you're trying to shoot through the door with anything less than a 44.

Why not ue the perfectly good window?

 

[NoDrama]

Unless you're trying to shoot through the door with anything less than a 44.

A car door provides almost no protection from a bullet. A .22 rimfire will easily shoot holes through them.

 

[twostrokenut]

trick question, bucky spells it "Pawl" cuz he thinks that will keep the paulbots out of this forum.

if only there were some way to keep douches who dry their dope over cat piss out of this forum.

UB's idea of Feng Shui is cleaning out the litter box.

Does he actually dry his pot over real cat piss or does he grow the strain cat piss?

It is my duty to respond with facts.
Not the twisted misquotes of a buckpost (tm) but hard contextual evidence.
Enjoy!
Thank you SahTiva!

 

[desert dude]

9369/313,800,000 * 100,000 = 2.99

144/34,880,000 * 100,000 = 0.41

2.99/.41 = 7.23

One can conclude that the US rate is 7.23 times higher than the Canadian rate.